kevart.com update

[Jason Manley]

check it yo www.kevart.com

our pal kev is at it again. he is currently doing large figurative murals in madonnas new house in beverly hlls. among other things.

take a looksy


j

[geoffd]

been there, done that :D his website is like my bedtime story. i have to view it every night before i can sleep. such an amazing talent....
what i want to know is how much is this book (http://www.kevart.com/pages/book_pg.html) ? my gosh how'd i'd love to have that!

[carpal]

yeah it made my day when it was updated, I emailed him about that sketchbook. I don't even care what the price is, the thing is priceless. Hasn't gotten back to me yet though.

heres to hoping

[tinyhands]

I honestly don't know why people go nuts over this guy.

[Lung_bug]

kevin really makes me work my ass off. kickass site, thanks for the notice

(btw will you remind him that puddnhead.com still says "update coming in february" ?)

cheers

[Jason Manley]

tinyhands...

simple...he is one of the top young talents in both the concept art field as well as the fine art world.

he lives art. neverending drive to create art...and grows and learns very quickly.

timeliness is another thing entirely...lol...im not sure if he will update puddnhead.com or not. he is focused on his fine art right now and is hanging out with a whole slew of rockstars.


j

[sic1]

oh my! :beer:

I'm could sit in a closet and draw my arse off for 20 years, and I could still never be as good. It sure would be a fun journey though :)

/me grabs pencil and lots of paper

*whistles*

[tinyhands]

Well, i'm not knocking the guy, but I think your stuff far exceeds his mr. manley. And as far as fine art goes, i can think of many figurative painters that are better, that people might not know of cause this is a concepting forum. And again, i don't want this to sound like i'm bashing the guy, but by looks of his stuff, he's another guy that knows how to render.

[tinyhands]

i was gonna write what iffy wrote, but i thought alot of people would get all pissy and mad. So i'm glad he did instead. Thanks iffy. Yeah, rendering does impress alot of people, but i think its only because they haven't learned how to render yet themselves.

[Jason Manley]

well for a kid who only went to art school for two years....and has only been out of school for four years i think he is doing pretty damned well.

i cant think of another artist his age that has accomplished w hat he has.

his imagination exceeds both mine and andrew jones....andrew knows him well. we have both learned from him.

he has concepted for both film and games...and now does art for the famous. and he is only 26. most the work you see up on his site puddnhead.com is four years old or so. you are not seeing all his work.

this kid is going far. you will understand when you see what he does ten years from now...fifteen.

honestly...there isnt a more talented young artist out there right now. kev was keeping up with the pros by the time he was 21.

kev has a long path ahead of him. the longest. he has the jump start on all of us. he has tremendous experience already at his age.

recognizing talent in youth is like tasting fine wine....most people cant tell the difference between a store bought merlot and one that is three hundred bucks a bottle.

if madonna...trent reznor...marilyn manson...the team behind blade 3...wizards of the coast...and hosts of other crews see his talent then it can not be denied my friends. he also has his figure work represented by the forum galleries in LA and New York. that is the TOP figurative gallery in the country...and one of the tops in the world. He is working on a painting for the butler museum of art and that is no small time feat.

as i said...there is no other young artist around who has done what he has thus far.

perhaps android will back me up on this.


j

[geoffd]

i don't even know the guy, but i'll be some back up here... it's not the rendering that is impressive, it's his imagination. the fact that he can switch from drawing nightmarish creatures where you're wondering 'WTF!? where'd that come from!?' to painting an amazing fine art piece. and his drive alone is enough to inspire me to pick up a pencil and draw for 15 hours. i wish i got a chance to meet him, he is truly amazing.

[pibb991]

if your represented by the forum your doing something right.

[carpal]

and not just pretty rendering, jesus. His figures and portraits have such a solidly "dark" feeling to them. very ominous, and its not some cheap trick of rendering. It is just the way he draws, its what he translates from the figure on to canvas or paper. I can see how that might not be everyone's taste, but it sure appeals to me.

and his sketchbook is straight out of my nightmares.

[tinyhands]

okay people, i knew this would happen if I just had an opinion. And i did check out the forum galleries website. And i'm really not into the hyper-realism thing that alot of their aritists do. might as well by a camera. But thats just my opinion. But kudos to a young man, that like jason said has a accomplished alot at a young age. I guess it all boils down to what kind of paintings you like to look at. And i'd choose a sargent or a sorolla over a gerome.

[Jason Manley]

hey tinyhands...wheres yer website homie?


just wondering.


jason

[tinyhands]

I'm actually trying to learn how to set one up cause i want to post some stuff. But i know very little about all this computer stuff, so unfortunately it hasn't happened yet. I don't mean to upset you mr. manley, and i understand that someone that replies that has nothing to back himself up has no merit. All i can say is that i have, and still am being traditonally trained. If you want to see at list one image of mine you can look at my very first thread when i signed on to the forum, and someone was kind enough to post something for me, cause like mentioned, i don't a lot about computer stuff and site building. But look man, i didn't mean to piss you off.

[TheYellowDart]

Tiny Hands...as soon as I get my platoon site up (this week prolly), I'll upload anything you want to show on here and you can just link to the file. I'll have enough space and a lot of bandwidth. See ya thursday.
--big k...

[tinyhands]

thanks kyle

[Coma]

okay people, i knew this would happen if I just had an opinion.

Opinions are opinions don't act like it's not right for people to react to yours with the statement of theirs.

And i'm really not into the hyper-realism thing that alot of their aritists do. might as well by a camera. But thats just my opinion. But kudos to a young man, that like jason said has a accomplished alot at a young age. I guess it all boils down to what kind of paintings you like to look at. And i'd choose a sargent or a sorolla over a gerome.

People get excited about Kevin's art the same way you get excited about seeing Sargent or Sorolla. It is not that hard to understand that not every one shares the same feelings you have. Your comments about Kevin are insulting no matter how true from your prospective they are. In fact you already know this, simply because you said "i'm not knocking the guy" and "And again, i don't want this to sound like i'm bashing the guy".

If you need to draw attention to your knowledge of art, figure out computers and post some. Don't sit and insult artists that dedicate their lives to their work, the same way you dedicate your life to your idea of good art.

[tinyhands]

Coma your comment is a very good point, and well taken. So, i guess for everyone else thats looking at this thread or posts, or whatever. Just disregard what i said, and enjoy this young mans work. The thread shouldn't be about arguing, and that may partially be my fault. But its over, so lets move on.

[Jason Manley]

arguing is good...we all learn...no offended feelings...we gotta have thick skins or we dont see others points of view.

so speak up...i would rather have people say what is on their mind that temper the thoughts with pc crapola.


j

[Kortez]

I love kevin's pencil work, his paintings are also kickass but they don't affect me as much as his pencil work :)

[tinyhands]

thanks jason

[Marcatili]

keeping in mind what Jason, or Mr Manley (i've seen both used and not sure which is preferred, if either) about most of the work on that site being pretty dated, I do have to agree that some of the paintings don't strike me as much as the drawings.
Of course I'm 21 now and there's no way Dennis Rodman would get me to draw his portrait- which is to say all the work presented is brilliantly executed.
just my 2 cents

[TheYellowDart]

"Your comments about Kevin are insulting no matter how true from your prospective they are. "

Dude, Coma...how is what he said insulting? By your logic, saying absolutly anything opinionated about anyone else's work is therefore insulting. Whether or not the comment is positive or negative. That's ridiculous.
What you said means no matter how justified anyone's
perspective is, it is insulting. That's irrational. Like Manly or Jason said, the argument is good. There are far too many people on here who just say "oh thats nice" to everything they see. They are afraid to say what they really think. Tinyhands wasn't. I think a logical, rational person would repsect someone who has the guts to call out what he doesn't like, and make arguments as to why he doesn't like it.

[tinyhands]

Okay, everyone PEACE on the forums. Lets not escalade this anymore, or dwell further on the subject.

[cityworker]

Ha, Ha, this is incredible, keep it up. I haven't been on the forums for a while...quite refreshing. Art is alive and well.

[Avetice]

when theres a discussion like this you know you did something right.....(the artist that is) :D
....and by the way
puddnhead..... is llewellyn
i never knew that before O_O i mean posting under two different usernames O_O
anywho didn't he go to art school for more than two years?
He just switched from chicago to ringling.
*sigh* looks like ill be doing the opposite of jason, llewellyn, android, and other ringling guys. Ill be going to private studies AFTER college =/

[endregan]

yeah hes great;

i assume he moved to CA to do famous peoples houses ;)

thats the life :p. Or isit O_O!?

i wouldnt know :)

[Coma]

TheYellowDart you missed the point of my post. Don't worry it didn't mean what you thought it meant. My bad for not making it more clear.

Tiny don't worry about it I'm sure every one can understand why you posted your comments. They just wont understand the way you worded things. People are easy to set off. As is plainly seen in all forums or discussion.

[SwitchbladeArchitect]

i did not know puddnhead.com and kevart were both of his sites....now i am even more impressed.

[armor]

I think tiny hands is correct.

This mans work is amateur at best.

[Main Loop]

i had never seen this guy's work before, but its really good.. is he Puddnhead or did i misinterpret it? I think Tinyhand's points are valid, and I love sargent and sorolla... to pick gerome or bougerou over them is a matter of taste in my opinion really.. cuz they were all at the top of their game.. I think from the buzz he's created, he's got a real good future ahead of him..

[ErikH]

This was a nice update at Kevin's site. He is a good draughtsman and I think his drawings are by far the strongest of his work.

I have to agree with "iffy" however. I usually check out the exhibitions at Forum in New York and I'm a little confused as to how Kevin got represented by them. Don't get me wrong... for his age, he's certainly a great artist, but not up to the par of the rest of the artists at Forum. I'm also not sure Dennis Rodman and Madonna are "authorities" on contemporary figurative art.... maybe someone can correct me??

Anyways, it's a great update and his work and passion is definately inspiring. I'm sure there is a lot more great work to come from Kevin in the future.

[mtw]

Originally posted by iffy
Not that he needs my praise, I mean he's pretty convinced of his golly-gosh greatness from the bio on his site. Like... whoa :eek:
That startled me as well. The guy giving Kevin the praise sounds like one of the people at Art Renewal Center. ;)

But I still like Kevin's work.

[gekitsu]

haha, i always like the sound of people bashing what they dont like to be true. fact is: kevin llewellyn sat down and worked his ass off for a level of craft skill that few have.
yeah, he gets down to a level of "photo"realism here and there. but it isnt the fact of his rendering detail that people are bashing, its that they dont want to hear that hard work is needed to make anything out of you, not just godgiven talent. if kev drew in a looser style, people would probably bash him for not being able to get some details down.

i think he did his homework. apart from the woes about his style, he got some great imagination (he hits the nail on the head when it comes to eerie creepiness and pure fucked up stuff) and i think he is to admire and to respect for what he accomplished at his age.

[jrr]

it's realistic, it's not photo realistic.
photo realistic isn't like this thing at the top that people try to reach. it's not all that. good looking draftsmenship is better than "photo realistic" or what junior has been calling "hyper realistic" and what grandma calls "uber realistic"
i like kevin's drawings alot, looking at his drawings you see it took two eyes to draw it. work from photos is so one eye, none of that ugly flatness i see from alot of other "young blahs" good work there sir!

[Jason Manley]

iffy...

ignorance is bliss my friend. dennis rodman did not commission that piece of art. it was commissioned by the bulter museum of art in cleveland ohio. His large oil will hang in their collection.

the bio on his page was written not by kevin but by the curator of the butler museum. try reading the entire thing before making judgements on him.

not that good? he's 25 years old. any other people that age around here that can do what he does?


as far as madonna...that is another ignorant statement. she has a large art collection with everything from famous frida kahlos to a couple bouguereaus hanging in her home. ive spoken with kevin about her and he said that he was completely surprised at the level of her knowledge of artists and art history. she is a collector. she spends millions on her art.

now back to it....iffy??? where is your website? hmmm....where is all your work?


jason

[Marko Djurdjevic]

Iffy,

I'm following the curve of this thread for quite some while, and I'm still not getting it. What excactly is pissing you off? Is it that more people seem to pay attention to Kev instead of looking at your work? Sounds to me like a shitload of jealousy. You could help yourself as tinyhands did, post some work, and let others decide if you're worthy. How about that?


Marko

[armor]

seems like this dude, should his ass off for a few more years.

He ain't great

[Marko Djurdjevic]

But you are?



Marko

[Jason Manley]

armor...post some work please. I will check back to see if you have art to back up your words.



j

[JoshuaTheJames]

whoa...

This thread took an awful wrong turn. Kev's work is dope, simple as that and he's just gonna get better..like anyone who works so hard.

I am jealous of the fact that he can get all those pretty ladies to pose for him. All I get are these booty leg poses in class...well.. they're not all bad.

-Joshua

[Jason Manley]

btw...kev has supported himself with his fine art and concept art since he was 20...and doing so in LA is no easy feat. iffY...you supporting yourself with your art?? since that age? he aint livin in a box either....he was living in a beach house in newport beach...and now lives in hollywood....that shit aint cheap...and that means he is doing a lot of commissions and professional gigs. I dont know another artist that age doing that. Im sure there are some....


i know he is young...and has a long way to go....but he will go far...farther than nearly everyone I believe. Ive watched his work for about six years now or so....i remember seeing him paint in my figure class. I have seen how far he has come. I work with a lot of artists...aint one of em that has the drive this guy does. period.


j

[Avetice]

just hearing about that drive he has is what gives me the drive i have. I even moved the computer out of my room(doesn't sound big but i was to either go to art college or into computer science if that helps at all). Anyway just hearing about this kinda commitment is what makes me keep with the commitment im making. It makes me work harder and harder Infact typing this up is taking up too much valuable drawing time but I thought you might like to hear something a little positive in this thread rather than all the bashing.

.....O_O my title has changed?!?!?!? how did that happen oh well i just noticed it after i posted this haha, yeah anyway back to work

[rambhat]

He's not a realist, but a REPRESENTATIONAL artist. I am a big fan of Kevin Llewellyn and/or Puddnhead. I respect his work ethic and overall his dedication to the field which I am also currently pursuing. Of course, he's not the "best," but its immature to start comparing artists in different genres, with different subject matter, and different messages. I'm not really wanting to play sides, but like I said, I respect him, as I do all artists, and whether or not you enjoy viewing his work, he deserves the respect of colleagues who, I'm guessing, are being taught in the same representational manner. There's lots of artists out there and in a community which brings so many of them together, slander doesn't need to be thrown around. Just my 2 cents...

[MindCandyMan]

I never knew Kevin llewellyn and puddnhead were the same artist...that's cool. It's awesome he has been able to do fine art as well as work for game/film/etc.... I was hoping to accomplish the same thing when I got out of my atelier but didn't know if it was possible... I even thought about having 2 sites so it was really cool to see him doing that as well. He's amazing...plain and simple. I can't wait to follow him for the next 15 years as well.


Cheers to puddnhead! :chug:

[togusa]

he has some nice stuff. not all of it is my cup of tea.


just in response to::

Originally posted by Jason Manley
i cant think of another artist his age that has accomplished w hat he has.

he has concepted for both film and games...and now does art for the famous. and he is only 26. most the work you see up on his site puddnhead.com is four years old or so. you are not seeing all his work.

honestly...there isnt a more talented young artist out there right now. kev was keeping up with the pros by the time he was 21.
khang le is 22 and has concepted for games, commercials, music videos and movies. i don't know if he aspires to paint for the stars, but we'll see.

[Tedsuo]

Khang Le is good example. Many people here praise his work, including myself. But if he were to be hailed as the next Da Vinci, I think you would start to see a lot of naysayers banging at the gates.

But the funny thing is, if you read his bio, read what Jason has wrote, really in this debate in general, Kevin's work is not being compared to the masters either. I think Jason would agree that Kevin's paintings, though extremely professional, are not at the level of Sargent and Bouguereau. Yet. Most of the praise is aimed at Kevin's future, and the paintings he has yet to create. I can't decide if I find that odd or not. He must be pretty amazing in person, to instill that kind of expectation in others. His drawings are excellent.

But man, if generating a buzz is an important part of the fine art world (and it is), Kevin is doing a good job. You think Sargent didn't have his detractors? The guy couldn't get a break from either side, he was constantly getting roasted by the academics for being "clever," and by the impressionists for knowing how to draw. If Kevin's going to shoot as high as that, he's going to have to put up with people throwing him down as far as they can.

[jwo]

hes livin the charmed life ::kicks stone::
need to take screen caps of his site someday.

[Jaku]

I´m now learning the basics of art and learning how hard it is. I´m 25 now.
This guy must had work very hard to reach that level. He´s for sure not the best artist around, but he´s so danm good. Anyone can see that.

[Patton Art]

Why do some people look down upon realistic work? It's bad for someone to have a good understanding of how our world looks?
You have to learn the rules before you break them. . .
I don't get that. It's not like that in any other art-- or even sports. We like technical skill in all other forms of art. If we got a bunch of 6 year olds together, each playing an instrument that they had never played before, and you just had them smashing drums and blowing into horns, it wouldn't be good music. Yet you listen to Mozart and say it's beautiful.
If having training and understanding is wrong, then perhaps you should only listen to 6 year olds playing violins, only watch monkeys playing football on Sundays, and only go to the theatre to watch retarded children play Romeo and Juliet.

This could be off topic, as I don't know if iffy is into stuff like Picrappo and Mashitte (Matisse) or is just jealous of Kevin's skill.

[togusa]

why does it matter so much what iffy has to say? i think everyone is entitled to their opinions regarding art they like and art they dislike. for everything that you dislike, i am sure that there is someone that likes it. personally, i think art that pays high fidelity to its real life counterpart begs the question of why not take a photograph instead?

[Patton Art]

Well, if you want a crappy painting by Picasso or Hockney, why pay 4 million for it when my 6 year old cousin can do it for a nickel?

But for real... there's a big difference between realism and photo realism. Colors in photos aren't ever correct. Plus, the lens sees much different than the human eye does.
Photo's capture a moment, paintings capture a story. I'd rather see a paiting of Jesus being crucified than just some photo of an actor acting it out.
Besides, visually speaking, what reaches the heart most? Reality. What has more of an emotional impact-- a deformed looking woman painted by a 6 year old, or a well painted picture of your father before he died (just an example) ???? Probably the latter.

[rambhat]

A "crappy painting by Picasso"?

Do your research. Picasso was undoubtedly one of the most influential artists of our time. When he was 16, he was a master of light, composition, and color; I have a feeling very few people can say that. Don't start bad-mouthing artists like that... especially masters of movements which you cannot comprehend. I don't really want to start an argument on this post, but watch what you say.

[gekitsu]

well, picasso may have been not the right artist to jump on, patton.
picasso actually rocked all the basics (at age 16) to brek them later on. also, he made some quite funny remarks about the level of art in his days and that he often makes fun of the journalists telling them some fucked up stories he just thought of about his works and they take them for serious. he also admitted that when he sits alone in his chamber, he sees ingres and other old masters as artists but by far not himself.

a better negative example to jump on would be beuyss (spelling?). smearing an old bathtub with butter and calling it art imho is ridicolous. (fun part of the story was that the museum cleaners thought it to be dirty and washed it :D)

[Patton Art]

Sorry, but I totally disagree that Picasso was a master at 16. He didn't do those paintings. Right before he died, he had said that he was a fraud. What was he talking about?

Look at the work he did in art school, when he was age 21. It's nowhere near the skill level he was at age 16. That doesn't make sense. I did a research paper about this for art history class last year. You know, his father was a painter too. In 1891 he was appointed a teaching job at Da Guarda art school in La Coruna, when Picasso was 10. He was putting out these awesome paintings, yet when he went off to art school at 21, when his daddy wasn't by his side, he put out work that anyone here could easily match.
When he spoke of being a fraud, I believe that's what he was talking about. He didn't have mastery, so he claimed his work as someone elses.

http://www.tamu.edu/mocl/picasso/gallery/g02.html This is his work while he was in school. He wasn't being abstract, he didn't do that until about 7 years later. His blue period and all the other crap started later.

Just my opinion though. Maybe I just hate Picasso that much. I'm obviously bias.

[jwo]

Picasso made art to score with chicks. I know this for a fact because i watched this movie movie once about him with anthony hopkins. and it was based on a book by Arianna Huffington.

im not being serious

[Patton Art]

Here ya go:

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp91-01_1891.txt


Age 10.

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp91-02_1891.txt


age 10 again

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp91-03_1891.txt


age 10

next comes:

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp92-01_1892.txt

age 11


http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp92-02_1892.txt

age . . . 11. . . wow, pretty big increase within one year. He must have been reading "how to draw on the right side of the brain" a lot!

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp92-04_1892.txt

age 11 yet again.




but then let's fast forward to his art school years. His abstraction and all that didn't come until much later.

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp01-107_1901.txt

Age 20. . . . . . . . weird.


http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp02-34_1902.txt

age 21.... wow.

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp02-35_1902.txt

Age 21.

http://www.geocities.com/nubefatal/yopp02-45_1902.txt

Age 21.



Weird. If he was that good at 11, why wasn't he as good at 20? That's a little weird...

[rambhat]

Picasso escaped realism because he felt that wasn't true art. He didn't want to be another representational artist so he moved towards abstraction. Whether or not his father painted his work for him, I'm not sure, though he had done a lot more in his life which he could have been defrauding people. He signed Braque's work, Braque signed his, he mistreated women, men, etc. I doubt the reason you state is the sole reason he claimed he was a fraud.

This is the wrong place for this post and is inappropriate.

[Patton Art]

haha. sorry if anyone finds it out of place-- I can see why.
I made a comment earlier about Picrappo, and a person replied saying to do my "research," that he was a master by age 16. I disagreed and showed my research.
Sorry if that got off topic... Picasso and Kevin aren't really related. haha.

[rambhat]

that was me you moron. I'm not really trying to change your or anyone else's mind on Picasso's work, but I think it irrational to call his work "crappy" after doing one research paper, but way to go...

[Patton Art]

well, it was you and gekitsu that had replied, but that's besides the point.

I didn't look back to see who it was.

And I'm not trying to change your mind here-- I just had an opinion that you had not heard of, and I presented to you the facts that you had not seen before. You can make your own decision.

[gekitsu]

okay, he may or may not been a master at age 16. i can only tell what i read somewhere, if you did excessive research on that topic, i may as well be wrong.

nevertheless, i like picasso's attitude about his work. in this genre of art, attitude imho makes art as much crappy or not as the picture itself.
someone smearing shit onto a canvas and expecting people to take him serious is someone i laugh at.
someone who makes up funny stories for the journalists about his art and laughs his ass off when they believe the shit is a different case in my eyes.

what remains as parallel to kev is that both picasso and kev knew/know how to sell their stuff.

case settled in peace? ;)

[Patton Art]

sounds good to me :)

[quantas]

a question for the weak minded (i.e. me).

if one wanted to attain the level of lewellyn (and i personally respect the hell out of the guy), what steps would one take?

i mean specifically.....

[TheYellowDart]

Basically, you would want to draw a lot and learn how to render.

[quantas]

i am already good at drawing and rendering.... i win competitions for goodness sake....

that however wasn't the question....

i am curious as to wtf he is drawing/painting all the time.

there is something unique about lewellyn's art. the guy is a f'ing genius and i am curious what it is that is coming out of his brain/pencil all the time.....

perhaps i wasn't specific enough

[TheYellowDart]

Hey, it's good to hear that I, like Kevin, are a genius, as stated in the first line of your post.

"i am curious as to wtf he is drawing/painting all the time."

if you want to know what he draws, look at his website...it's a lot of different things. some people, some skulls, etc.

"there is something unique about lewellyn's art."

i would hope that there is something unique about your art too. I mean, you're out there winning all those competitions and all. I would hope your drawings dont look like someone elses.

Oh, and before people get on my case...
1: You can probably draw better than I can.
2: Kevin definatly can draw better than I can.
3: So why do I say anything? Well...why does the art critic say anything?

[AnarchyAo2]

I posted something else but decided to edit it because people that don't really understand how i think would consider it offensive toward Kev. I'll just say that hes good and i hope to posses the skill that he ha someday.

[Rohan]

heey sweet this bloke kevin has some great work. He works hard and it shows. I really like how his cadaver study notes the relationship of the supinator longus and pronator muscles of the arm and their position relative to the bones, this is a good observation, and very useful if one wants to draw arms more convincingly, I wish it was a bit bigger.

[Ariel]

Originally posted by Jason Manley

i cant think of another artist his age that has accomplished w hat he has.

he has concepted for both film and games...and now does art for the famous. and he is only 26.

honestly...there isnt a more talented young artist out there right now. kev was keeping up with the pros by the time he was 21.

as i said...there is no other young artist around who has done what he has thus far.

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Sorry, Jason , for editing your original post, but my reply is regarding these specific comments.
Have you guys seen the work of Jeremy Lipking? He's only 27 and his work is, in the opinion of many at an incredible stage of development for a guy this young. I personally like his work more than kev's (technically, and on a striclty academic way. i don't mean conceptually).

BTW, it may not be a fair comparison, because lipking is strictly a fine artist, but I guess it was relevant to bring this up in this discussion.

http://www.lipking.com/gallery/figure_1_kerridemo01.jpg

Anyway, here's a link to his site. http://www.lipking.com