anything beats nothing... sometimes...

[Dan.v.D.]

haha yes i suck but imma get ya´ll (... that selfmotivation thing... ;) )

ok here´s some rubens studies i did today

well i did a lot more but u know i´ll update as often as possible but not each and every fart that only wastes your time.

ceeya

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/rubens001.jpg


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/rubens003.jpg

crap legs :mad:


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/rubens002.jpg

well that mouth really was sorta like this but treated with "slightly" more subtilety so it looked convincing

[Dan.v.D.]

some folds that make no sense

*edit*
or rather lines that make no folds

rubens again

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/rubens004.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/rubens005.jpg

and yes original stuff will follow soon ... i hope ;)

[Dan.v.D.]

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/metgurl.jpg

"painter photoref study messed with"

[Hunger_Artist]

the "old masters" got the way they did because they drew from their daily lives. A woman churning butter might now be a woman talking on her cellphone waiting for a bus.. If you use the talent you have to capture what you see every day I think it would be interesting

[Dan.v.D.]

thx for the comment but for now i wanna learn and masters make for great teachers.

now 2 studies. nothing special but i haven´t done such things before.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/laetitia.jpg

not really nailed the likeness.



http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/clone-of-18.jpg

found that shot of a female all painted golden.
tried to do the opposite of that portrait before (limited values, big brush)

[Dan.v.D.]

no ref lightning studies with 3 values and big brush, to keep it as simple as possible. uhm it´s not! ... for me...

additionally i´m still not all that down with handling the tablet

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/3values001.gif

[Dan.v.D.]

no ref stuff for me to see where my knowledge ends

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/stuff001.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

looks stupid but i´m not getting any further with it atm.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/stoopid.jpg

whithout marko i wouldn´t have done something like it yet.
so kudos to him!

[Robolus]

Ahh, I remember this one from Markos WS. Looks good! You should add some highlights at his head, shoulder, perhaps a small one at his blade too. :chug:

[Dan.v.D.]

thx robby! yeah i think i´ll work on it some more soon. i just feel i need to do something different now.

what´s up with your sketchbook? hehe

[Suder]

hi Dan!

i remember that one too. i liked your scetch of it a bit more, but that might be because it isn't finished yet.
i like your scetchbook! their are a lot of usefull training-studies in it. i'll try that lightning-thing with only 3 values, too. good idea to get a basic understanding of lights and shadows!

keep it up! :chug:

alex

[Dan.v.D.]

hey the comment is much appreciated! yeah try some of those studies.

well yesterday i doodled this together...


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/omfg001.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

blah blah...

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/nudestudy001.jpg

i´ll do better ones asap

[Robolus]

Good studies! You keep improving!!! :chug:

[R_M]

hi dan,
the freaky alien from nov 7th is good! the lighting works well and it gives it a nive 3D feeling. the BG is a bit to empty...
keep it up!

[Dan.v.D.]

thx rob n´rob :p

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/aurora001.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/melstudy.jpg

i´m not pleased with the outcome given how long i worked especially on the second one.
the biggest problem was that the paper was so damn textured, that even with a staedtler-EE pencil there was no way to get real dark yet smooth areas.


lol they look like dirty ass thumbnails tho i worked in A3....

[Dan.v.D.]

always loved that ink drawing by uncle frank.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/frazettastudy001.jpg

[metalwinds]

keep rockin those studies dude. theyll help you sooooo much. draw more from reference too (models, not old masters). keep em comin

peace

[R_M]

Are You Related TO FRANK, Oh MY GOD!!!:D

[Dan.v.D.]

haha nope but ever since i´ve read...

"While growing up on Long Island, I guess I was
around ten or eleven years old, my cousin Ellie
and her husband Frank would often visit us to
enjoy the pool and a fun backyard barbecue.
They would bring their children for us to play
with while they lounged. The one thing that
caught my eye was Uncle Frank, as I called
him, reclining with a large pad on his lap
drawing away, always while chatting with the
other adults. I would find myself frequently
looking over his shoulder only to find that
what he was drawing with no reference was,
Al Capp’s syndicated newspaper
column, ”Little Abner.” Little did I know the
influence he would have in my life in less
than a decade. To this I say, ”Thanks for
being there Frank Frazetta.” "


...a short bio of ken kelly (http://www.kenkellyart.com/) i can´t help but think of "uncle frank"

[Dan.v.D.]

coloring of phuzion´s pencil piece in the
*New Media Coloring Book* (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11580&perpage=30&pagenumber=8)


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/amita.jpg


a little dated attempt at something matte painting like



http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/matte001.jpg


cloesup:


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/matte001_clsup.jpg


and some sketch i´m toying with atm:


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/mofu_alpha.jpg

[obid619]

um...it seems your doubting your skill. YOU HAVE GOOD TALENT ;)

[Dan.v.D.]

thx opid619 i´d really appreciate to have some more of it!

sooooo here we go with an chronologically ordered excerpt of what i´ve done over the last 2 weeks. without ref.

fitst two were done on a train so forgive the sHaKeYnEsS
http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs001.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs002.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs003.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs004.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs005.jpg
:rolleyes:

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs006.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs007.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs008.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bs009.jpg

some of them looked much better before i stared to mess them up by totally uninspired toying around

[Robolus]

Hi Dan, very good Update my friend!
Your knowledge of anatomy is getting better and better. The face on the first page and bs004 are the best of them. Be careful with your proportions (length of the arms etc,) and the balance between the left and the right side of the body.

On with the show!

[Dan.v.D.]

thx! well i wasn´t all that concerned about heads in these, but the next update will be some nice´n proper ones.

[Dan.v.D.]

some studies from the last couple days

chronologically

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/kelly001.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/ross001.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/brom001.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/brom002.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/bouguereau001.jpg

[Robolus]

Wow, Dannyboy, greeeaat improvement! I´m really proud of you! :chug:

[Karim M.]

Wow that'S really cool. That improvement is incredible. Man I must draw more :D

[Josef K.]

WOW! now thats impressive! really awesome how much u have improved!!!
and ur improvement inspires as hell ;)
keep going!!!

[Ilja Murometz]

Wow, the last post is just, :nohope: :nohope: :nohope: WOW.
Great improvement (Freu mich schon drauf in den Kölner Zoo zu gehen kommen ja coole Leute dahin)

[Dan.v.D.]

since it´s critweek and all that i decided to swallow my pride...


for once!


old. face values are kinda off, took a while to figure that out
http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/thief.jpg

i totally burned out on this one so it´s unfinished
http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/dood.jpg

something sloppy i kinda like
http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/mister_skull.jpg

this update is exclusively for you ilja ;]

[Dan.v.D.]

another old concept thing. thought it was better back then.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/001.jpg

random fun

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/rise.jpg

[Robolus]

Wow Dan, the last one is great! <3 I wish you would finish "dood.jpg".

[Karim M.]

damnizzle!
it's funny to see the improvement from post one to your last push.
Dude!
Ok you prolly heared that like 100000 times so here's some crit.
The white shirt the thief guy is wearing is.... too white ^^ Shouldn't be cause the rest of his clothes is kinda darkish.
But i really really do dig mister skull :wink: Do you play Thief? Looks like hahaha
Karim

[Dan.v.D.]

thx guys i really appreciate your feedback!

robby: hmm i honestly don´t know where to take that dood.jpg
i mean i could finish it but i´m kinda considering it just a study.
the problem is that i had nothing particularly in mind when i started it,
so there is no real idea or concept behind it and trying to make something
out of it now is like the same amount of work that it is to start something new.

karim: thx. i´m happy that someone sees some progress. that´s why i had a longer break inbetween posts.
i want to make every post better than the last instead of posting tons of shit.
it´s challenging for me and interesting/inspiring for others i hope.
btw do you still draw at all? i wanna see something!
and yeah i played thief recently and loved it but never never
thought of a connection between the image and that game myself haha.

[Jokisalo]

nice stuff here,, i like the most your digis :)
keep on drawing pal

[Dan.v.D.]

i got a problem! if i just start start drawing something shit will end up croocked.
but if i attempt to plan stuff beforehand i always come to the same conclusion: "i can't draw that shit man!"

so here we go with whack. still better than nothing i guess.
thanks jok!

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/unbenannt-2.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

some random figure sketches. as much as i hate them compared to the stuff i did a year ago they don´t suck that much. also i feel like i was giving only like 60 percent or something until lately

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/unbenannt13.jpg

[emilpaun]

as much as i hate them compared to the stuff i did a year ago they don´t suck that much

They don't suck at all, in fact the improvement is huge. great job

[Robolus]

I see progress (again)! :confident
Now work on more poses and variations.
Let me see Back muscles and some Haircuts! :wink:

Weiter so!

Main Crit: POST MORE!!!

[JokingClown]

You are much better than I am, at least at figure studies. I need to work on that. Sense I know nothing about muscles I cant critique your muscle placement etc. But I always try to critque something, especially if the persons work is better then mine.

Try to do some studies of the hand. Scroll up through every picture of yours, and you can see that you have avoided drawing the hand.

I presonally would love to see a few peices that are finished. And some more enviroment peices. Mainly because Im partial to them.

Biggest thing is the hands though.

[Karim M.]

hahaha so you're a guy ritchie fan are you?
I like the way you play round with perspective in some pieces. Nice!
so i really should spent more time drawing and not just doing random art class homework.... ok enough learned for today. Keep learning
Catcha later

[Dan.v.D.]

thx guys. you keep me going. yeah i´ve actually drawn a hand or two lately but unfortunately no backs ;)

here´s some kinda old (few months) stuff i got pissed with and never posted.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/dude.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/omg.jpg

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/roaaaaaaarrrrrrr2.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

3:45 am. me tired

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/monstah.jpg

[aesir]

That last paint kicks ass, and your figures have been significantly improving over the course of the thread. Keep it up!

[PeggyChung]

Hey Dan, looks like youre on your way with the drawing. I really like the first painting from the 2nd to last post. Dang, keep it up, hope to see a lot more :D

[mos667]

Just wanted to say that there is an amazing progression from the first post to the last. I absolutely love it! Will definately be following your progress. Keep it up!

[Richorb]

I noticed a few magic cards in there.

mogg flukies. and some other ones.

magic rules.

[p4b10]

Hi Dan, good luck man ! :P Three weeks to go!

[grisalisan]

wow :dur: great stuff! your last one is really great! And I like your dark skelleton (spelling?) guy with bow among your earlier stuff! I want to see more!

[blog]

They're not that great, stop exaggerating. But they're getting better.

[Johann de Venecia]

Hi Dan,

Sweet SB you've got here. A lot of cool pics. This: http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/brom002.jpg , being my favourite of the bunch. The silhouette is well done, and all the delicate lines beef it up even more.

I like your color choices in the gladiator dude. Reds and blues are used well. If I can toss a crit, it would be on that same dude, particularly the outline of some parts of his body. Like the thighs, they seemed to have been trimmed off almost, making them look flat. Try adding some back light to the edge, if just a little. Im sure it would improve it.

Had fun browsing through your SB. Keep filling it up!

[Sunny]

wow you can really tell that your studies help you. you are improving a lot. im going to start making studies now :D

[Dan.v.D.]

hey guys! i´m just posting my td entry and some cd artworks i did between early '02 and mid '04 to have an opportunity to thank you for your replys!

aesir, LadyLioness, mos667 and Sunny: i´m happy to hear that you see progress. at times it's soooo tempting to start a new sketchbook to get rid of some of the old crap, but then again it makes me appreciate your comments more because i know you had to wade through quite a lot of crap to finally see the newer and better things haha.

Richorb: lol i had to look up "mogg flukies" at google. to me it´s just brom haha.

p4b10: it seems the luck was rather on your side this time. good job!

grisalisan: yeah i'm kinda happy with how that guy turned out given that he has taken much less time than most of my other pieces.

blog: word! haha

lukavi: thx³ i even added some backlight on my td pic because of you!

and now some visuals:

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/dan.v.d_vs_p4b10_td.jpg


http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/cd_artworks.jpg

[mentler]

Saw your entry in TD did not comment there because I was just browsing through <> it is very strong and you should feel pretty damn good about it!!! Good Luck

[Robolus]

Good luck from me too my friend!
It´s great to see that you are constantly getting better.
You are one of those rare guys that really work hard every day to improve,
and that inspires me.

[jfrancis]

Nice work, and improving, too!

I think you have an occasional tendency of making the upper arm too short, and the lower arm by comparison too long.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/mentler/profront.jpg

http://www.tsofa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25

The elbow generally fits below the rib cage but above the pelvis. On some of your drawings the elbow (if the arm were dropped to anatomical position) would fall too far above the points at the bottom of the rib cage.

The upper arm (humerus) is about 2 head widths (not lengths, widths) -- the forearm from elbow to wrist is about 80% of that

[Dan.v.D.]

damn 3 masters in a row!

thank ya'll very much!

jfrancis: you are totally right. but while that stuff seems soo simple in theory, i usually fuck up trying to get shape and proportion right. if you now what i mean. if i look for proportion too much i loose the feeling for the right form, and vice versa. i'm sooo far from "driving all horses at once" or how hale said so well that i could start crying any time of the day haha.
btw your stuff rocks.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/figs.jpg

man besides hands and such i´m having trouble drawing feet that don´t look too hogarth or marvel but still feet looking. err

[hurricane]

sweet stuff man, and a killer progress :$

just keep on doing what you're doing !!

cheers man !

[Dan.v.D.]

thx hurricane!

piece from that jetpack vs teh world td:

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/timeguardian.jpg

and some studies. nr 1 and 3 are direct copies and for 2 i used some ref later on. nothing fancy but a good practice.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/paintingstudies.jpg

[endregan]

hey dan havent checked you out in a bit. Really quality stuff man.

Your studies are really good and show in your work. The warrior with the helmet and the weapon is really decent, your starting to develop your own style.

Really dark atmospheric lighting in them. I like it

[Dan.v.D.]

thx endregan!

and here's the next study. frazetta.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/frazetta_study.jpg

fuck me dead i would have thought that shit would be easier by now haha
gotta do some 50 more i guess.

[mr.kluetsch]

wow... i mean...wow!
great improvement, especially on the rendering. but you seem to hate hands and feet (who does not?!?). i suggest to do a lot of them, as i think it's very important for the overall composition. cloaks and mist is a good thing sometimes...
but that frazetta figure... wonderfull!
hope to meet you soon, maybe in remscheid!

[Dan.v.D.]

hey alex! thx. and yes i´m seriously starting to hate hands and feet. and it's getting worse day by day.

here´s a new one. although not any good i think i´m getting a little quicker.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/feine_herrschaften!.jpg

[Tigermilk]

wow, your latest ref. studies are incredible! Very good use of colour and lightning! I'm impressed, keep it going.

[johnny78]

Your color pieces look very good and have a lot of potential. I guess that you are a Frank Frazetta and Brom fan, too. It´s cool that you are not afraid to make lots of studies.

Just one crit: Why don´t you try out different body-styles? You know: old, thin, and of course the steroid types :)

[Dan.v.D.]

thank you very much guys. yeah i like studies cuz trying harder makes them better. there´s not much more to it than dedication whereas own works confront you with obstacles without a walkthrough at hand. if that makes any sense... + you can pick up a thing or two while doing studies...
ok and because i´m dan.v.d and i suck heres another unfinished bald mofo without hands and stuff. i´m still trying to find "my" body style and figure out that anatomy biz, so he´s kinda muscled again. but you're of course totally right with your remark johnny78.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/attack!.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

i might finish this oneday. thnx for looking!

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/oppa.jpg

[Art_Addict]

beautifull work! I am surprised to see i never let a reply in here.
Well , there ya go.. :)

[Zebz]

You sure are patient with those studies! Eh, I dunno if I could make discipline myself to copy stuff like you do! It really educates tho, I'm sure. It's helped me with pencil and pen work so I'm sure it's no different with painting. Just shows you really put some time into your skill, bro. Keep it up. Great thread.

[ivy'sgrandkid]

you are one good artist i like you style improvement is shown

[camilografix]

Great thread. I love the way you color your anotomy is on point too. Great stuff. keep posting.

[Jens]

suddenly somewhere half in this thread some huge improvement happended

very nice stuff

last one has a bit of a dwarvish posture it think

[Morkai]

Dang, your rendering has REALLY improved from the beginning to this latest bunch (I htink your best pencil rendering had to be on that anthro cheetah spear-weilder, awesome stuff). Those last three color studies are beautiful too, great translation of the overall form :) Keep it up!

Edit: Haha, oops, I hit the quick reply button on the first page, didn't see this second page of stuff. My comments still stand though :)

[shyamshriram]

COOL SB Mate..i can see the fast progress here !! keep it up ! :)

[Dan.v.D.]

thanks guys.
just puttin my chow in here because tho i´ve drawn pretty much lately i don´t really feel like posting that stuff.

http://www.vilestyle.com/ca/chowbattleangel4.jpg

[John]

Hah, i see the online research payed off. Seems to me you could try doing some more complex compositions instead of working on details. Just an idea.

[Grom]

I like your most recent. Especially the lighting!

[dariocoelho]

hey dan, like john mentioned before i think too you should now focus on the composition, the enviroment or dynamic poses instead of details which you obviously studied. but anyway its very nice to see your improvement just in these two pages! keep on challenging yourself and youre on the best way.

[young paddy1]

there is a serious improvement through your book, the characters have a real sense of expression and life although they do not seem to have much dynamism, the last piece is great, love th colour choices and the pose is fantastic, minor thing with position of the sword, it doesn't really carry the line of viewing very well, did a little over paint to show ya what I mean hope ya don't mind.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/youngpaddy1/chowbattleangel4.jpg

[guggemmaneuver]

dan VD
the last post is super nice--keep up the great work. and the mexican (??just a guess??) general from oct. 1 that you didn't like is really pretty nice, imo; though i think the sky doesn't look realistic and kind of detracts. maybe something in a less bright-cyan kind of look.

it seems like your pieces now (vs. some of the paints from page one) incorporate colors / lighting tones from the background moreso than before. is good because it tends to put your figures into place in their environment.

keep up the great work! can't wait to see more.

joel

[P E N Ricklund]

Hey, nice sb. Love that chow. Amazing progress since you started this sb. Impressive. Really makes me want to draw. Thanks.

Hugs!

[sleep]

wow.. the improvement over years is astounding.. any tips for a beginner?

love the colours and the body studies.

[jermainevl]

wow your progress is amazing! It gives us all a big morale boost I think.

I'm ashamed to say I was drawn to your sb by the title. I'm such a pervert.

[hurricane]

wonderfull light on that angel !

cheers man and i hope your new year will be great ! cheers!

[Dan.v.D.]

thank you all very much for the comments guys. sorry for not replying but i had nothing to justify bumpage. image wise.

here's a tarzan wip and my td entry. i guess this will be the 2nd time that round 1 will be my last :doh: haha

http://vilestyle.com/ca/tarzan-wip2.jpg


http://vilestyle.com/ca/danvd_round1_td.jpg

[Recursive_End]

Cool images. I don't see any errors. I especially like the sky in the second one.

[silvestri99]

Nice work with your coloring and composition. You should considering looking at the more basic skeletal form and how the muscles interact with it. Look at capturing the flow of the body and not just specific muscle groups. Keep it up!

[Dan.v.D.]

thx you two. but although i had like 6 months to think about it i still don't really know what you're reffering too silvestri.
anyway 06 was a complete shit year but 07 will be a lot better I SWEARZORZ!

random trash:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7017/sketches06jr4.jpg

[conceptzaholic10]

hey man great stuff! you can see improement as you go, which is awesome, keep up the good work!

[Dan.v.D.]

thx conceptz0rholik :D

more of that sketchy shit:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6982/sketchessssssbo1.jpg

[Piranha Clan]

Good progress here. Great Frazetta and Brom studies. Those guys are two of my biggest idols :bow:

You need to post a bit more often than every 6 months...

[Dan.v.D.]

thanks man! haha you have a point there...
so here's some more.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5346/sketches48679787vm2.jpg


next update will be better!

[Dan.v.D.]

damn nothing but a wip to show...
anyway at least i'm not lazy

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3195/orrrrrhhhhkib0.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3064/painting003uv2.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/263/painting004cp3.jpg

have done better but not as quick :D

i'm trying to work much more intuitively and less cramped up.

...so thats my excuse for today lol!

[Chermilla]

I like the speed paints, you're making some good progress. :)

Cx

[kev ferrara]

Hey bub, thanks for the complement and the crit on my thread.

I've checked out your stuff and dig it a lot. I always respect somebody who puts the time in and makes the strong effort. Some of your comps are sweet.

But just like you opened my eyes a bit with your crit I'm going to do the same for you.

I have one simple task for you...

Do your Bridgman now.

Huh?

George Bridgman. The best anatomist for artists ever. Period. Didn't just give you the anatomy, gave you the form, where it corners, how to think so you can do lighting out of your head and make all your figs solid as rocks.

Gotta stop looking at Frazetta a bit and realize that Frazetta once did his Bridgman too. Just like Norman Rockwell, a thousand other top guys, and humble ol' me too! Go to Frazetta's site and you can see some of the copies he made in his notebook in a section called rare art.

Georgre Bridgman. Constructive Anatomy. Book of 100 Hands. Life Drawing. The Human Machine.

What does it mean to "Do your Bridgman"?

It means to copy into your notebooks, line for f'in line, his entire books.

Its a bitch, but if you do it, you will love yourself for it. Trust me. Trust Frazetta. Trust Rockwell. Trust everybody who you admire for their drawing chops who has done their Bridgman. There's a whole bunch of them out there.

You want to unlock your talent? Go!

Best,
kev

[Dan.v.D.]

muchas gracias chermilla!
thx kev. i know his books and have been looking at them a bit more lately...

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1892/tarzan2907rn1.jpg

so i decided to rework this sucker some. i guess it has porfolio potential i just need to put some 50 hours more in haha

:/

and here i tried to get some life into the whole story...
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5356/variationoffellaap8.jpg

150 hours to go. lol

[John]

Good to see you are at it! You made some nice progress there.

[Dan.v.D.]

danke danke johnny boy check your skechbook...

btw here's what my working file looks like. i have that habit to mess with my images a bit to much before posting them. i guess something between both versions would be best...

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4732/tarzanb2907xa0.jpg

[Dan.v.D.]

why is stuff sooooo goddamn hard.
i'm struggeling and struggeling without the slightest feeling of accomplishment. the best part is the feeling of embarresment. i seriously haven't even shown my parents or anybody anything in years haha.
i only tell pll that i will make it somehow, someday. go figure how much faith im me is left :P
the only payoff of all that are your kind replies

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8127/painting001bkopiedy0.jpg