Discussing the VERY FIRST conceptart.org WORKSHOPS!

[Jason Manley]

hey all...

we are in initial discussions for the very first conceptart.org workshop. we would have a host of professional artists including myself and andrew jones helping students and interested industry pros to further their skills as artists. we want to guage interest in such a workshop and see what you all think.


the workshop would be here in austin texas and would cover the below topics.


Creative conceptual development
Character development
Environmental design
concepting for games
concepting for film
figure drawing (we will have great models on site)
digital painting from life
color theory
business development
freelancing
working as a concept artist inside the industry
portfolio development and review
artistic growth
technique
and the fine art side of things


we are discussing doing it as a period that would run as a long weekend. Interested students would arrive in austin on a thursday and finish the workshop sunday night. three and a half days of intense
learning and growing and sharing of ideas.

DEMONSTRATIONS by other working professionals will be intensive and thorough. Watch how the pros work...learn their techniques...see them create....I know Id be interested in seeing people do that


we would have a crew of pro artists to instruct.

tuition costs would include housing/catered food for lunches as well as getting the pros out here to work with you.

tuition costs would depend on the number of people who signed up for the workshops.

I will be checking into group rate costs at a local hotel here in austin as well as van rental and equipment. we will post a complete tuition costs list once all information has been gathered.



let us know what you think!!!


jason manley
www.conceptart.org


PS..I will also be doing private tutorning here locally...send me a pm if finterested.


cheers

[Jason Manley]

feel free to add any input you have. we want to put together a great package of offerings if we do this...


j

[Sammy]

:eek:

This sounds like a wonderfull opportunity.

Austin is such a game developement hub it would be great if we could possibly visit some studios. Or partake in the Austin' Game Dev Meeting at Dave & Busters.

I'm so there.

[Jason Manley]

that is a very very good idea....it may be a possibility

[Avetice]

we need to get some game designers to come to michigan :D
michigan is such a barren wasteland.
are you gonna be doing this more than once? or you just planning on doing a one shot deal with these? or would that depend on how many people attended this first one? Im just curious because I would love to do this but im a broke ass college student :D
I would love to go to this though if I can somehow find a way to get there.

[Smeagol71]

Although for financial reasons I wouldn't be able to make it down to Texas from here in Pennsylvania...

THIS IS A FANTASTIC IDEA!!!

The experience would be invaluable and I commend you guys for giving up your time to try and put this together. I'm sure many will benefit from any of the workshops! Whoever would have the ability to go and would not take advantage of this would be crazy!!!

[chao]

oh... this make me sad.. if i'm in US i'm 200% will definetly join this.. but i'm so far away.. so.. i can just give a mental support for people.. people who's not going to take this opportunity must be crazy... as smeagol71 said... good luck everybody! umm just some suggestion.. maybe you guys can make a book one day.. consist of theory, tutorial about concept art's process?:chug: :chug:

[Jason Manley]

depending on the number of people that attend we may offer ONE free ride grant/scholarship to the workshop. I will discuss with andrew.


j

[Jaku]

:cry: I´d like to be nearer to the USA, but i can´t do nothing but to wish all participants and organizers the best luck possible.

And yes, I think it´s a great idea.

[strych9ine]

I would love to do this, but I would need to know roughly how much this would cost. After all, I'd be flying my poor ass out from Chicago to take part in this. I have to factor in all of the expenses in order to realistically consider this...

It sounds like an amazing chance, though.

[M0ND0]

I'm in... only if it were held nearer to the Canadian border...
maybe Seattle/San Francisco or Chicago/New York. Hey, how about coming up to Vancouver or Toronto? It Cheeeap!

MonDo

[Atmospheria]

wow....superb idea but its damn FAR AWAY!!!

[Jason Manley]

ive been to every major city in the usa and austin is one of my faves. it is the youngest city in the country and caters to the artsy types. Im glad we are having it here.

cost will depend on many factors...i will check into hotel rates etc...


j

[I.was.ink]

What a great and wonderful idea Jason. I would definetely fly out there from California. I suggest doing mid december, cuz I think this is when a lot of people are on vacation time, and it might be easier for them to attend. The same thing applies to college students as well. I'd be out of ARt Center for break and Id be there in a sec!:D

:fruit:

[amphex]

awesome!
if i were a couple years older, id definitely fly down :)
good luck guys =D

[Oblio]

so... would you have a "Game Design" session too? "Working with Game Deisgner - Pain or Pleasure", "What is it, How it works"? I'd love to see Austin :D

- anyway.. i think you should see the rates first - it's all about the money. Everyone will want to come if they could afford.

[benzo]

i think you should go on tour around the world and be concept art missionaries. -benzero

[Nimrod]

Ahahahaha so close to home! So lucky! This makes up for not being able to see Marko's workshop. I'm willing to pay, um, whatever it takes! Say the word and I am there, Manley.

[al-x]

This sounds great!
... but it's too far to Austin, and I'm spending all my money on a trip to Hong Kong this December... :cry:

[Carnifex]

aawwww sh*t! now that would be GREAT,but OOOOHHH i live in AUSTRIA and that's damn too far away for me!:bash:
can only wish you good luck and a good time there.:bash:

[Deth Jester]

Sounds good.. Sign me up!

It might be halfway across the country.. but Ill search hotline or something and get cheap tickets... :) Im already stoked!!!

peace

-mike

[nova]

wow. what a rad opportunity. it sounds like a much better version of some classes i've almost signed up for in the past :)

[the good war]

it sounds like a dream opportunity this is an amazing idea i would have to travel from milwaukee and i really do want to come but im kind of poor... hey road trips are what life is all about aye if i come ill have to sleep in my car for a week or so. or camp (perhaps a discount tuition for hobos?). i haven't had any exposure to professional artists yet...

[Nimrod]

Aww yea road trip... Anyone coming from the Dallas - Fort Worth area or somewhere between here and Austin, I am likely to be coming to this thing (if it happens [fingers crossed]) in a van with my roommate so we could get a vanpool rolling and save on gas, etc.

CONVOY

[the good war]

if this one scholarship comes into fluition would it be handed out based on portfolio or need/portfolio or a thunderdomesck type competition?

[endregan]

awesome dude. id love teo see that happen and participate but im in canada :/

perhaps ill make yall come up here for me lol jk

well see :)

[Crunch]

jason...i am extreemly interested. when would this take place? in the summer? how long? will it be a couple weeks or like a residency program of some sort. is there requirements to get in? a portfolio of some sort or do you just have to be dedicated and willing to learn? any info would be great. thanks

[antihero]

Sounds absolutely nice.
Would you do this open for anyone interested in, or just the advanced members of this community?
Anyways, i can't participate for geographic reasons. Though Switzerland isn't Sweden, it's still far, far away from Austin, Texas. :)
Good luck on this one!

[PhilHolland]

Sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
Around what time of the year are you guys thinking on putting this together.

I'm in California, but I would be willing to make a trip for this type of experience.

Phil

[vfxart]

Given the number of folks who've already said 'Great idea, can't make it cuz of funds... '
It seems a natural that someone could (?) try to put together a means of recording the sessions and possibly making the info available to those who can't make it. DVD, streaming, who knows?
I'd love to go, but will also have to wait on the final numbers to come in.
As far as content...be careful how much you go for. Better to think small instead of large at first? My big concern would be if you schedule multiple events at one time, and run the risk of folks missing a lecture or two due to, gasp, having to choose! Sometimes it can be avoided, no biggie, just a thunk. I'm guessing it'd have two or three hour blocks? And oh yeah... room parties.

Perspective
Lighting
Anatomy
Design basics (shape interaction, anthro, mass, engineering, materials)
Game (player directs)
Film (artist directs)
Importance of sketchbooks and how to treat them
Recharging your artistic batteries
Studio safety and personal health (never gets covered enough.... the stuff we use is toxic and dangerous)

:chug:

[tarwater]

Sounds badass, if I can scrounge up enough dough, I'll be there. I'd need a ride, so I might wanna hit you up on that carpoolin' Nimrod.

tarwater

[DragonGX]

these would be awesome, im only concerned about airfare.. its not cheap to fly down often, so we would be limited to onl doing them every so often..

[DragonGX]

Originally posted by vfxart
Given the number of folks who've already said 'Great idea, can't make it cuz of funds... '
It seems a natural that someone could (?) try to put together a means of recording the sessions and possibly making the info available to those who can't make it. DVD, streaming, who knows?
I'd love to go, but will also have to wait on the final numbers to come in.
As far as content...be careful how much you go for. Better to think small instead of large at first? My big concern would be if you schedule multiple events at one time, and run the risk of folks missing a lecture or two due to, gasp, having to choose! Sometimes it can be avoided, no biggie, just a thunk. I'm guessing it'd have two or three hour blocks? And oh yeah... room parties.

Perspective
Lighting
Anatomy
Design basics (shape interaction, anthro, mass, engineering, materials)
Game (player directs)
Film (artist directs)
Importance of sketchbooks and how to treat them
Recharging your artistic batteries
Studio safety and personal health (never gets covered enough.... the stuff we use is toxic and dangerous)

:chug:


That is a very good idea.. Id like to go to at least one, but id like to be able to see what i was missing when i couldnt make it..

[adien]

I'm definately interested, but as stated above, would have to know when and how much the tuition would be to realistically consider it. I live in Vancouver BC and it's a fair ways down to Austin.

Actually the chances of me being able to attend over christmas holidays is pretty slim, as the company I work for just opened a new support center in Vancouver, and few of us have the luxury of christmas holidays this year. :(

should be able to swing something anytime in spring or later though. maybe even late winter

I would almost go as far as guaranteeing my attendance if it's after christmas sometime. :)

[PencilPunx]

This is an amazing idea, but as a few people asked above, I'm concerned with the skill level required to attend. Is this general information that people of any ability would find useful or is this intensive, hands on work catered to the more experienced artists?

[AfroLaxMan]

Jason-
This is a kickin' idea. I work here at EA Origin (with Tony G.) and I look forward to attending this and hopefully, a couple of these guys over here that may get interested as well. If you need any help with any aspect of this, I am interested in lending a hand.

[Vushvush]

This is deffinitly awsome.... would be cool if this happen every year or even twice per year if it works out!

Only suggestion would be to run this late dec/early Jan so us students can attend over winter break!

[bfaubion]

sounds like something i would want to attend. I'm north Dallas!

[OB1]

Yep thats a nice idea for those who cab get there. Someone mentioned video streaming? well, I think VTM's would be better, just like on Buzz. VTM's on Art, that's gotta be cool!!!

:nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana


BTW, anyone know how I can change my username, ob1 is a bit drab.....

[underdevelopedbrain]

Dallas here too. Im soooooo there. It truely sounds like something special.

[Pencil Soldier]

So far away...Illinois sure is a hell hole for things like these. :(

[Patton Art]

I'd definately be interested in attending this. I'm a college student, so it'd have to be during a break (wether it be winter, spring, or summer, who cares).
A friend of mine went down to Texas via train... he said it was less expensive. So, if I were to do this, I'd probably ride a train and just sketch my whole way down there.
It really depends on how much it costs for a room and for tuition. If it's over 500 bucs I doubt it could happen.
That's why we have to find a good ol' conceptartorgian who lives in Austin! That way they'll let us stay at their house FREE! haha

[daarken]

ill only be in texas from dec 22 - jan 5th :P

[Flint]

New here to this forum, :waves: and very there if this happens as I am in Austin...

:chug:

[Jason Manley]

hmmm...take the train...draw the whole time....that is a good good idea. perhaps those that do that adventure and arrive with a sketchbook full of stuff from that trip will be given some sort of expense break on our end. trains run from all over the country.


do it.


more details on the workshop will come soon. we are currently talking to the some of the different pros we are asking to attend.

I wonder if foster would be interested.


j

[Deth Jester]

I never thought of that... taking the train! that is such a good idea! Just need to know a lot farther in advanced because planning to leave on a train is a lot harder then a plane.

[carpal]

I am a student also, but hell, I would miss 2-3 days of school to take part in this. I would learn more there than here for sure. Really depends on the date though, whether or not I would have a car to take the road-trip.

I am crossing my fingers

[Crunch]

looks like we already have quite an army here. im there no matter what. i just want to know when it will be and if we need anything to prepare...like have somthing to show when we get there. such as character concepts, creature designs, enviorment ect.

i also want to know if there will be a portfolio needed to attend. if so i will have to start a new one. if we do need a portfolio what exactly should we have in there?

who is going to teach these besides jason and andrew?

I WANT ANSWERS!


(ok im excited but seriously i want some info asap)

[bustabustu]

Taking the train costs as much as getting a plane ticket. How ever I would attend this workshop in hopes of bettering my design skills.

[strych9ine]

If the cost is reasonable I'm definitely going. If foster can attend I'll burst my zipper.

[commando cody]

This is a great idea Jason, I was fortunate to attend Mark English's Illustration Academy, an idea very much like the idea you are putting forth. His was weeks long and cost alot but it was one of the best experiences I had had. He even had a portfolio review to get in, a small one but I believe I had to send him a website or several pieces to look at. There were days of figure drawing, demos from working pros, assignments and critiques. Some of the demos were by Mark himself, Chris Payne, Anita Kuntz, and many others. It was great to learn the secrets and talk one on one with these people. If timing and all work out count me in.

[GriNGo]

anybody know of spanish speaking artists which could give us latinamericans a hand? there must be some kick ass dudes somewhere... and by the way nice idea Jason :) probably consider a world tour or something??....

later,
GriNGoLoCo

[bwkeough]

I would definitely be interested in this opportunity. I just need to know the ballpark tuition cost and have a month's notice or so to schedule vacation time.

[bustabustu]

Originally posted by bwkeough
I would definitely be interested in this opportunity. I just need to know the ballpark tuition cost and have a month's notice or so to schedule vacation time.

Same, at least a months notice. If not more.

[bRyaN]

This idea is awesome...

Have you tried contacting local banks..some banks offer money to educational institutions..how about the local government?
The could also donate equipment, speak to computer companies... they get tax breaks for stuff like that...and the companies that professionals work for, what if they donated a few dollars to developing talent....

If students could rent out a large house or 2 and split the rent amongst eachother would be awesome...cheap hotel cost would be even better maybe splitting a room between 2-3 people...

THe train idea is awesome, and giving a break to people who complete a sketchbook or get pretty damn close to filling one is an awesome incentive...

hopefully tuition is not expensive...take into account...

Tuition expenses
Lab fees(if there is one)
materials
Living expenses(rent, food,etc)
rental car(students might need to rent one out)
Recreational expenses(everyone needs a break once a in a few)

i think you should charge a non-refundable registration fee, this helps, to a small degree, seperate those who are serious about attending from those who are likely to drop..(see the Gnomon registration practices and look at their penalty system)

I also have a wishlist of people i would live to see dodemostrations including but not limited to Jason, Marko, Justin, Sammy, Jon and so many others...

[fukifino]

I'm interested but concerned about a few of the things other people have mentioned. Obviously money is one (and probably the primary one). The second is what skillset this will cater to.

Anyways, looking forward to seeing more info on this. I'll be keeping my eye on this thread.

[vfxart]

Hmmm...
Not ot be a jerk about this, but for the folks who are worried about skill levels: The goal of this gathering, as I see it, is to help artists understand how to get more out of their concepts and work, and not a beginner's skill development series.

It's doubtful that you would get much from this if your drawing skill isn't somewhat proficient and you don't have some confidence in at least the basics of perspective and anatomy, as well as color and lighting. For certain these are topics that will be covered, but I think the lecturers/speakers should be given the freedom to assume their audience has some familiarity with what they're going to present, and are there to get more insight and a deeper understanding.

Concept is what happens between inspiration and execution; the more you're bogged in 'how' to make a line, the less likely you're going to have success with what that line represents, and with the answers to the questions you should be asking to push your images along. You're likely only to get more frustrated and tripped up in the basics and possibly end up with a series of notes which, when you really need them down the road, won't be too decipherable to you.

Now, having said that, I don't mean at all that you have to be bad-ass or his younger brother to get anything out of this. But you have to gauge your own skills and see if you're at a place where discussions about the concept side of art will be helpful to you; perhaps not right at this moment, but in the not too far off future.

There's a lot of work in these forums that is gimmicky and tries to rely on tricks and rips, not on good basic skill. If you go, I would hope that you have the skill and are at the beginning of 'getting it' so to speak, and are continuing to develop, or you could end up wasting a lot of folks' time, and your own money.

Devil's Advocate mode off.

[killing.people]

.. that would be an opportunity of a life-time. i can get there. can i play in blood or something? i know i can't afford it.. you tease :p i hope everything works out.

-killing

[MSync]

I'd be interested in attending something like this...I'm in Dallas and would make the short trip for sure!

[Aura]

Gosh I would love come and bring more people with me! This is an awesome thing you guys are doing. Jason, are you coming back to Ringling anytime soon?

[LEN]

I support this Idea 100%.

My only request is that you far ahead of time so we can scrounge money together and get time off from work.

Also my I suggest a story boarding workshop.

A great Idea, I hope to see more on this subject in the future.

[MindCandyMan]

I'm in :chug:

[zeitgeist]

im 15 hours away.. but ill be damned if i dont go... which is also saying i will go...

holy chirst on crutches.. im there... if there becomes a there at all.

[sone_one]

wow, sounds like a great opportunity. id love to participate.... too bad vienna's on the other side of the globe :(

[Jason Manley]

i am going to be discussing working with a local university our needs for space and such. it will be a ways off...will take time to organize...but now that we see there is an interest we will pursue it.


j

[bustabustu]

For those who can't attend why not video tape the event then sell copies to the public through conceptart.

[Leopoldo]

Great idea!

We could set one up here in Europe based on the experience and program that you do in the US. Perhaps in conjuction with the 3D Festival in Copenhagen?

How about that?

Would that be of interest to anybody out there?

Who would we wanna see holding the workshops and doing seminars?

I would like to see Moebius in action.
And Chris Sanders would be great (Director/designer of Lilo & Stitch)

A Master Class in concept art. Cool!

Perhaps there should be an online portfolio show casing the teachers work so people know what to expect?

Leopoldo-thinking-out-loud

[Erik]

Unfortunately the States are out of my budget at the moment :-/

I'd be thrilled if there came a European version though! Of course there is already Marko's workshop, but it would be cool to get European pros together on this so we can learn from them.

E.

[cycrincy]

:realmad: :cry: COME TOO NY like buffalo or amherst!

[Leopoldo]

Erik,

What's Marko's workshop? Tell me more?

Cheers,
Leopoldo

www.fabpics.com/leo

[Jaku]

Take a look here....

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11958

:chug:

[Shadowkiller]

I would go if i had the money and it was a little closer. It would be even better if it was in toronto:D but oh well.
Have fun who ever is going.:chug:

[awalloffire]

I'd really be interested in something like this if it were somewhat reasonable cost wise.

[Jason Manley]

we are in the midst of planning the first European workshop now. I will put up an announcement as soon as the info is final. Next stop Berlin!


j

[Phuzion]

Damn good stuff! I'd be in depending on when and how much, though the price isn't so much the issue for me. Sounds titillatingly badass!

[bRyaN]

Well during January thankfuilly airlines rates are often discounted for flights going to Europe...

Now, figuring out food, shelter(which a couple of people should share the cost of a hotel) there in lies the problem...

[alkaline111]

im going for sure!! texas here i come, ill drive.. WALK if i have to .. when is this suppose to happen guestimation.. tomorrow? 5months?..... oh and maybe alittle off subject. what software is recomended?, i have been using photoshop(naturaly). but im thinking of getting painter..... ive been tryign to use tradtional painting techniques(like Mr Manely,s approach) or at at least trying? (i love the motion, mood and freshness he gets from his work, like the old masters)...... would painter be better? oh well cant wait for that workshop... hopefully i will have not missed my chance:)..


maybe i missed a post explaining dates , ill check again.....

[Crunch]

woah eruope? what happened to good ole texas? i will still try my damndest to go but man....its not cheap to go to europe...am i reading this correctly?
well i guess ill keep lookin for whats going on

[bRyaN]

Actually during the winter months Europe is pretty cheap.456$ round trip to Germany...

[fredflickstone]

This sounds like a great idea...what about possibly a corrispondence also with our school, my concept classes out here in San Diego also???


email me if you want to talk about any of this. I am trying to get guests to come out and speak to out group of students, and it has been hard to coordinate, etc.

This is really a good idea.

I will write in again with something brainstormed..


Ron

[DaemonMagus]

I think this sounds like a wonderful idea but I doubt my parents would let me go all the way out to Austin for a three day workshop. It would take a lot to convince them to let a 14 year old go from Miami to Austin.

[plaf]

sounds wicked. only problem is, i'm stuck over here in northern europe :)

you lucky people who are going : hope you have a blast!




all the best.

[Lono]

all the ladies can come stay at my house for free.. i gots plenty of room.. we can raise the roof up in this mug..

yah,, thats right..

-Lono

[Noah Bradley]

I don't have enough time to read this entire thread, but I'd like to reccomend to whoever happens to be running this thing to make a collection of VHS (or DVD, but would probably be too expensive) tapes of every little section so that artists who can't travel long distances to attend something like this would still be able to learn from these great people. And yes, if I was older (just turned 15), I'd be there in half a second. :)

[PaperWaste]

Same here. Dont think a 14 yr old kid who lives in England to come to Austin, Texas ( tho i do have a friend who's dad lives there). But hey, great idea guys!

[alti]

sounds intence, count me in, no wait i live in australia,
If I can make it to the states in the next few months I will definalty be there. DEFINALTY- - -

[littlemac]

great idea jason. unless this thing is monsterously expensive i'm a definite.

[LiL QoH]

Great idea! I think it would be nice if it could possibly be a moving workshop so it wouldn't just be in Austin.. not everyone has the funds to fly :T

[S13Drifter]

great idea guys, just let me know where to sign up?

[Random Chaos]

wow a workshop would be awesome. you could learn sooo much there. but i'm just a kid in New York. the only work i do is for volunteer hours. if you can come up with a summary and post it after that would help alot.

[alkaline111]

im really interested.. i would love to hear more abou this... id fly anwhere. i just hope its really going to happen.. not much talk about it lately:)

[poly_cube]

I would defiantly go.

terrific learning experience. looks like the dead end job is paying off hah

maybe everyone from California (mainly Los Angeles) want to go as a group?

[Kishlahar]

damn I'd like to go (not sure if I got time collage architecture got test first week back, preliminary design presentation 2nd week!), and flights from Standsted London to Berlin on ryanair ( http://www.ryanair.co.uk )are only £0.01 each way (going 8th Berlin at 9:00am back 11th Stansted 23:00 ) plus taxes of 13 which makes it only £26 so if anyone from around London is going I'd look at that..... not sure how long it will last though.

doh wrong workshop thread :P

[Shadowkiller]

as I keep reading these posts I want to goto this but i can't. its sounding like an experance of a life time. The DVD and VHS sound like a great idea and maybe if you sell them you can give the money you make to a charity of some kind.

[Jeano]

I would love to go and think it would be worth going to. no matter how far it was. The DVD idea sounds great too.

[Zifnab]

Perfect idea and sure want to be sing in ,no matter how far away from here.
but sadly not for a man who is out of money.
:bash:

[Avetice]

im confused, so are you still going to hold a workshop in texas? or are you just going to do the ones in europe and thats it?

[junglepat]

With enough notice I would love to come to a workshop. Just lurking for the last year has helped to develop my skills, and with a looming graduation I would make an effort to visit - even from Canada (yes, not as far a some people on the board but still a major effort!)

[Pat Lee]

Cool, I'm there. Sounds like alot of fun!

[Sunny]

DO A LIVE FEED!!

DO A LIVE FEED!!

haha there, hope u all see that ;)

I am in canada, i am interested in going , what a trip that would be eh. lol. Would you guys mind saving cost and consider doing sessions for maybe a week or 2 over the net?

6pm is starts ends at 9pm, or whatever is convenient...

Gosh i really am considering going. That would be badass!

[Killer Napkins]

whoa this would be awesome.. if you guys did this (and if i could do it for sure) itd be great... cuz ive been looking for somethin like this to be working on art in the summer between my junior and senior year of highschool.. unless that is too young to go.. anyhoo its GREAT idea!

[Goober101]

Having workshops in Austin would be totally cool because I live in Texas. I hope they happen. Are they happening?:cool:

Andy

[gaboartpage]

I will go surely.... but now i will wait for the usual information, prices, hotel date etc etc....

please post the dates as soon as possible :-)

by the way do you accept ideas ??? or comments ????

Gabriel

[QuickDraw]

Wow! What an opportunity! Count me in!

[JayJee]

As soon as i know all the details, id love to go...even if it means a flight from here in Canada.

[Joey]

God, I hate living in Britain... absolutely NOTHING like the idea you're proposing going on!! :mad:

As much as it's worth, I think that's a fantastic idea. Just a pity Texas is a little out of my travelling range!!

Ragin'!!

[PhilHolland]

Hey Jason,
Just viewed the invite. Very nice.

So, what are the actual dates that this will take place?

I'm very interested in going and work is picking back up - so I'm going to have to make some tough decisions.

Is there any more progress on a workshop in LA? That would be great.

Also, cost? Places to stay?

Thank you as always,

Phil

[Ron]

yeah, I'd like to go too. but I'm with iwasink—make it during a school break please!
:)

[BRANDISH]

anyone going there from vienna?
fährt irgendwer aus wien hin?

[Toy George]

Sweeeeet!! let me know how much and when..
tks

[Nikos]

Hello,

I'm a multimedia student at an Arts academy in the Netherlands. Though im not planning on attending myself, I was wondering if you mind if I pass the poster and Announcement on to the Illustration students that also follow a course at this academy.

Amsterdam is pretty manageble to travel to for students from Rotterdam.

Thanks,

[Oblio]

Nikos - Feel free to tell everyone. Thank you.
It's realy a one time opportunity - you don't get this kind of things in Europe too often.
Maybe you get to together after the classes for a beer - you can learn from this guys even when they sleep :D

[Raptor]

i like smeagles idea of a book, with theory on consepts, im new here but juedgeing by all the tremendious talent ive seen so far you could get a few dozen people to each do a section and you could have a textbook sized wealth of knowlage