drawinng complex form in perspective

[setsuna801]

Hi guys this summer I decided to put more strenght on drawing environment so I practice my perspective trying to do compositions and I do go out and draw from life some buildings or views. But I can't see the elements that are actually mostly important and get them as when I do figure drawing I find all the helping points to recognize me in space. I dont know if I should draw in cubes or just try to ruffly fallow the form but I would be curious to know what is your process guys on drawing more complex buildings and views from observation. Here is what I have try today and I dont spend more then 15 cuz I think it is in off for a study.

[Elwell]

Before you can draw complex forms in perspective, you have to be able to draw simple forms in perspective. Then you can see how the complex forms are made up of combined/distorted simple ones.

[setsuna801]

So you mean I should draw from observation the building that are simple and to continue doing studies like in the last ones I've posted in my sketchbook today. And as you will see I have more anatomy stuff than the environment I need to balance it if I want to do complex forms

[c-hsu-run]

Mostly, it's like drawing a box in perspective, and then create complex structures inside the box or decorate the box with windows, doors, statues, etc.

But I think something to look for in real life is some form of a vanishing point in which the most basic horizontal lines point towards.

[Maridius]

I have yet to really do any work on perspective but I plan on starting simple, with boxes, very carefully drawn to line up with the vanishing point so I can see how the shapes change as I shift the horizon around. I'd suggest you do the same and go slow. I might be missing it because I have crappy eyes, but I didn't see a hint of a horizon line or those nifty V.P. lines. Take a more systematic approach next time.

[setsuna801]

Yeah I kinda did as I draw live model I forgot to think about the vanishing points and horizon as they are the first think I should have found

[vivektheanimator]

you seem to be drawing in hurry its better you first pay attention to contour and edges of drawing.once you are done with it and you understand the basic principles of perspective it will be easy for you to draw outdoor. its better to start with a model of buildings or something like that under a table lamp then straight drawings

[setsuna801]

ya understanding of line and after the value and volume will come

[PeggyChung]

hey Setsun, theres a little mentorship on this stuff going on if you havent stumbled upon it yet- he has and area where lurkers can post their studies from his assignments. goodluck.
http://conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=146

[Jasonwclark]

As others have suggested, start by just focusing on the basic cubes and rectangles. Perspective works the way it does, because human beings like to arrange their environment in boxes. Try not to worry too much about the pyramids and curved shapes at first; once you get the rectangles down, its easier to see where things need to go.

Check out lessons Seedlings thread for more tips and ideas
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108180