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Nam
May 6th, 2008, 11:13 PM
I've been having a problem lately when drawing nude males. I setup my picture and work in but when I get to the genital area I get extremely aroused. It's quite embarrassing in a public context to be so rock hard while drawing. What does this mean? I also tend to over render the male privates and the teacher has often complained of this fact.
Jake Kobrin
May 6th, 2008, 11:28 PM
ummmmm... perhaps you're gay?
Ilaekae
May 6th, 2008, 11:36 PM
Nam, I don't know if you're male or female (it doesn't matter, actually), but I'm guessing you're pretty young. There are all kind of mental probs that pop up when you "stare" at something that normally you've been taught not to. It happens to all of us, or at least a good many of us, because it remind us of what's in our own pants. I had one young man who was so embarrassed to see a nude of any kind that he sometimes he wet his pants in shock. I had to work with him for a few weeks to get him to learn how to see certain things and ignore others.
It's a matter of "where do the lines go to make this thing look like the real one" finally winning out over "omigawdI'mdrawinsumguyzdick!" It comes (no pun) with experience and exposure. For the time being, concentrate on everything BUT...and just make a couple of pencil swipes sort of in the general area if you have to, until you get more comfortable.
Think of nude models as teapots, not porn. If you can get off on a teapot, you need real help, though I once got busted with an underage egg beater... :P She looked a lot older than she was...
chaosrocks
May 7th, 2008, 12:01 AM
wear baggy pants and keep drawing....
crx
davi
May 7th, 2008, 12:31 AM
just a warning... i find this to be a relevant topic, because i know there are homosexuals on this forum.
Nam, if this is a serious post.. i congratulate you for opening up about this issue, wither you feel that you could be or are homosexual/bisexual. If this thread is a joke, and is to make fun of anyone gay-- I will flat out ban you for life.
Ilaekae
May 7th, 2008, 01:58 AM
If this is serious, the same techniques for controlling sexual tension during life classes apply, whether you're homosexual or heterosexual. We all experience a sexual reaction to that which we find attractive.
I'm a serious student of erotic comics and mangas (hentai/ecchi), and I'm an Administrator on a small forum that specializes in these items. We laughingly refer to ourselves as perverts, but deep down, we seriously study the complications and skills involved in producing such work. In that mode, sex is simply an aspect of our work, not a excuse for gratification. Even then, there is always that thin line that we drift back and forth across that allows us to be "normal" while following our rather strange interests.
Yes, I guess that makes me a dirty old man in the eyes of many, but the art and writing come first in the sense of erotica, the blatant depiction of sex is secondary. The pursuit of beauty in all its forms often involves the attributes and images that the average person considers pornography, but we rise above that baseness with our skills, talents and minds.
Try to put yourself in the position of a heterosexual male who has to track down erotica that would be of interest to a lesbian grandmother, which I have had to do, and suddenly, you have a different perception of how another's mind works.
We joke about it, we flirt, we giggle, but in the end, we are all really trying to understand how we work inside our heads...and how to let others know that we understand them to some degree.
That's part of being an artist. We solve problems, and strangely, sex is part of that problem. Kind of makes us feel a bit important, doesn't it?
HunterKiller_
May 7th, 2008, 04:41 AM
Interesting topic.
I've never been excited enough during life drawing that I would call it 'aroused', but there are times when I let my mind wander... but if I concentrate on drawing, it doesn't happen.
Perhaps this is what you need to do.
I'm a serious student of erotic comics and mangas (hentai/ecchi), and I'm an Administrator on a small forum that specializes in these items.
Wow. This I did not know.
enrigo
May 7th, 2008, 07:35 AM
Kind of on the topic, there are a lot of people around CA who do some of their figure studies from porn. It just doesn't feel right for me and it's a shame since porn is a million times easier to find than artsy nude photos.:ore:
I'm a serious student of erotic comics and mangas (hentai/ecchi)
If it's not a perverted thing why did you sort of denied it in the classroom-for-all thread when someone called you out :perv:
J Wilson
May 7th, 2008, 08:20 AM
I agree with Justin Oaksford, your mind isn't on the drawing. If you are spending too much time drawing the junk, you are allowing your mind to fixate and wander. As my old life drawing instructor would say ANYTIME we spent too much time in one area, "you're drawing the fly on the elephant's ass, and you haven't drawn the elephant yet."
There isn't a whole lot of anatomical relevance to drawing a penis. It will rarely need to be shown in most people's artwork, and it has next to zero impact on the surrounding anatomy. It can be safely ignored all together (sad for us males, sure, but true). Just gloss over rendering it in your figure studies.
If the distraction is a persistent problem with male models, and you reeeaaally can't keep you mind on your work then you either need to find a boyfriend, or grow up a little more before attempting figure drawing.
Matsign
May 7th, 2008, 08:54 AM
Nam, buddy, it's okay.
I think you need to get it out of your system. I have a private sketchbook for such things.
For live drawing, just ignore it for now. Check up what notable figure drawers do for the penis. I see a lot of laying the basic shape and giving it a shade, then moving on.
I'm always available on AIM if you need to vent or something.
Blue
May 7th, 2008, 10:04 AM
I've been having a problem lately when drawing nude males. I setup my picture and work in but when I get to the genital area I get extremely aroused. It's quite embarrassing in a public context to be so rock hard while drawing. What does this mean? I also tend to over render the male privates and the teacher has often complained of this fact.
If you are still considering yourself heterosexual, then perhaps you're not deep down. If you simply said you were over rendering the genitals and not mention being aroused, i would say this is just a fascination with anatomy (I go through phases where I focus on different areas of the body of both male and female until i get it perfect, then i move on) but the arousal thing changes the playing field.
I don't think this is something actually related to art, so i'd let a psychologist go from there.
Jasonwclark
May 7th, 2008, 02:37 PM
I have almost exactly the opposite problem. I'll sit in on the occasional life drawing workshop, but I keep getting totally skeeved out by all the leathery cocks coming at me. Why is it only the grizzled older dudes that want to get naked? I'd much prefer to work with female models, but they're always harder to find, more expensive, and probably wouldn't go over very well with my girlfriend. We're all still the same horney bastards in the end though, right? So here's my advice for you:
Next time you run into 'arousal' issues, just try thinking about your grandparents. Unless you're really disturbed, that should kill it for you quicker than cyanide. Either that, or you could just get your rocks off before class, and take care of the problem before it starts. :hatsoff:
Blue
May 7th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Either that, or you could just get your rocks off before class, and take care of the problem before it starts. :hatsoff:
This got me through public speaking, first dates and any kind of special event since i was... 16?
HunterKiller_
May 7th, 2008, 05:41 PM
This got me through public speaking, first dates and any kind of special event since i was... 16?
Damn, I was doing it wrong.
Mirana
May 7th, 2008, 06:48 PM
I guess I'm going to throw in a little side note and say that a guy being aroused by another guy's penis does not have to mean anything about sexual preference. It can be a trigger for the idea of sex.
That being said, I'm gonna agree with the masturbate before you go to class and learn to concentrate on the figure as an object.
JasonWClark - All I ever got to see in highschool and two colleges was middle-aged, large, white women. In the last college I got to see a handful of younger white girls and maybe three guys (two young, one middle-aged).
Flake
May 7th, 2008, 07:51 PM
being aroused by another guy's penis does not have to mean anything about sexual preference.
Being aroused by a womans silky thighs does not have to mean anything about sexual preference.
^
Both of these statements are silly and wrong.
nonie
May 7th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Eh, everyone's a little gay. I say yeah, take care of it before class. Unless you're in San Francisco in which case there are specific, gay erotic bondage model sessions.
I dunno, penis = sex in a way that vagina does not - so even for a straight guy, I could see if someone was a bit inexperienced how they could have this problem. You think about alllll kinds of weird stuff when you're young.
I had a very attractive male model once who popped one during class and because of the angle I was the only one who saw it. I was destroyed for the rest of the period, couldn't concentrate on anything and I was blushing so hard it gave me a headache. We had that model again later and I was distracted for the first couple minutes, but was able to zone in and do my drawing objectively, maybe with a little extra sensitivity... Actually people often peg that one as one of the best I've done, so the sensuality of it may have helped :P
HunterKiller_
May 7th, 2008, 08:40 PM
Being aroused by a womans silky thighs does not have to mean anything about sexual preference.
^
Both of these statements are silly and wrong.
Actually, Flake, what Mirana said is not untrue. There are been studies in this area.
The penis for the male on the most part equals sex, and sex equal arousal, but this is entirely different and complex topic.
Ilaekae
May 7th, 2008, 08:42 PM
"Damn, I was doing it wrong."
Idiot. It's "before," NOT "during." :P
Didn't you have Social Studies where you went to school?
Flake
May 7th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Eh, everyone's a little gay. I say yeah
Ya, it's a matter of degree really.
It's not a big deal or important though is it? Just get on with it I reckon.
Edit: Don't know OP at all
From my own experience, we (dudes) only had two models who would ever have been "problematic". Look at the shapes and ignore the "omg Hot" thing.
After a while it's second nature and you don't even see boobs.
eskanto
May 7th, 2008, 09:06 PM
So my .02 would be, you have 2 choices. You can leave the privates out completely until you can approach them with a more objective mindset, or you can do what one aspiring CA'er does, and become a full-fledged cock painter.
I agree. When I was younger and first took life drawing classes, people would see my drawings and ask me why I wouldn't draw the privates. When people began pointing it out to me I felt silly about being silly about privates so I basically began attacking that area. I made sure to draw them. Now I when I draw genitals I look at it analytically; completely from the view of an art student trying to complete a life drawing.
Don't be too troubled by your reaction Nam, I have a feeling a lot of other people feel the same way. Just do as Justin suggests and become a 'cock painter' so that you can look at it without the arousal. :)
Xeom
May 7th, 2008, 09:12 PM
I've almost had this happen to me once with a certain model whose figure was fantastic.O those silky silky thighs :V,and i usually have a hard time with breasts as well,but i seemed to get them o so right with this one :V
It was made even worse by the fact that I was pretty sure she was attracted to me. Was pretty weird when my teacher said she was in fact the new model,I just thought she was a new student.My teacher some how convinced her,she was just a student in her art appreciation class(our model hadn't shown up last time and she doesn't call models back after a absence)
armando
May 7th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Ya, it's a matter of degree really.
whatever
fanficbug
May 7th, 2008, 10:26 PM
whatever
Hey, no need to be hostile.
As for the subject of reactions to models, I almost never have this problem, but when I do I close my eyes, take a few deep breaths, and think of the most unerotic thing I can conceive of. It generally kills the urge pretty quick. :)
Masturbation could help too. Though I do find it kind of amusing to see it offered as a solution--some sects of Christianity view it as a sin, so every time I've given this solution to other people in my area I get griped at. :D
HunterKiller_
May 7th, 2008, 11:17 PM
After a while it's second nature and you don't even see boobs.
LIES!!!
Mirana
May 8th, 2008, 12:03 AM
Masturbation could help too. Though I do find it kind of amusing to see it offered as a solution--some sects of Christianity view it as a sin, so every time I've given this solution to other people in my area I get griped at. :D
LOL! I asked my fiancee what his advice would be for the OP an he immediately said, "Masterbation...?" Ah artists, such liberal pagans. ;D j/k
aea
May 8th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Well there are plenty of ways to find out what it means, but you're the only one who can figure that out.
It's like when you're watching a porn and you're only able to see the man doing stuff to the girl and turns you on. That doesn't necessarily make you gay. Whatever emotions you released in that studio were obviously very inhibited and caught you off guard. I felt that was more obvious.
The human mind is more complicated than people generally give it credit for. People can have homosexual dreams and still be heterosexual, usually because the mind is releasing something. I think the same thing can happen in the state of being awake when something is so repressed, backed with fear of releasing it, comes with absolute shock that we're not sure how to react except that our body and mind fixates on the first thought that comes to mind and our emotions at the moment take over.
This is normal if you haven't suspected you are gay and haven't been pushing it back. I'm just talking about repressing maybe, fear of looking at the penis for fear of being viewed as gay combined with being a bit of a pervert and going "OH WOW, a PENIS. SEX!!! YUM YUM". I don't get off in life drawing class, but I can look at a girl and start having thoughts if I really pursued it and go "mmmm sex." for the sake of thinking of a man and a woman. And yes, maybe even drawing that area would increase that thought if I really wanted to think that way. But I have control over myself though, so I don't react that way. But I don't see how that's homosexual.
If it was aggravated by homosexual feelings instead of just plan awkwardness and being completely flustered, then I think you might want to consider there being more to it. Being homosexual means when you have thoughts of same sex intercourse, your normal reaction is that of arousal and desiring homosexual behavior. Looking at a penis and feeling turned on about the idea of sexual things, phallic in nature even, is not.
Ashtonw
May 8th, 2008, 12:51 AM
I agree. When I was younger and first took life drawing classes, people would see my drawings and ask me why I wouldn't draw the privates. When people began pointing it out to me I felt silly about being silly about privates so I basically began attacking that area. I made sure to draw them. Now I when I draw genitals I look at it analytically; completely from the view of an art student trying to complete a life drawing.:)
I'm still trying to rid myself of dickphobia and draw the damn penises. Dicks just look so funky that whenever I catch sight of them my eyes linger and I'm afraid I'll be noticed staring at the model's junk. I tend to stare at the ladies' boobs too, oh and I don't draw nipples either. What does this say about me???
fanficbug
May 8th, 2008, 12:56 AM
I'm still trying to rid myself of dickphobia and draw the damn penises. Dicks just look so funky that whenever I catch sight of them my eyes linger and I'm afraid I'll be noticed staring at the model's junk. I tend to stare at the ladies' boobs too, oh and I don't draw nipples either. What does this say about me???
That you need to loosen up and let yourself stare. It's important to observe while drawing, after all. :P
nonie
May 8th, 2008, 01:07 AM
Ashtonw - I had a teacher who cussed us all out for not getting belly buttons and nipples on our quick gestures because they're such a god indication of what the torso is doing... Draw nipples! Just make sure they're in the right place.
Mirana
May 8th, 2008, 01:13 AM
I'm still trying to rid myself of dickphobia and draw the damn penises. Dicks just look so funky that whenever I catch sight of them my eyes linger and I'm afraid I'll be noticed staring at the model's junk. I tend to stare at the ladies' boobs too, oh and I don't draw nipples either. What does this say about me???
That you are young and a product of your society's upbringing. You censor yourself b/c your culture says these things are TABOO and EMBARASSING. They aren't. Really.
BuckWeisel
May 8th, 2008, 01:32 AM
From what I understand of life drawing, you don't pay attention to what you're drawing, you just draw it. Does that make sense? Whether you're drawing a still life or a figure, it should be the same in your mind, you're just translating from your eyes to your paper. You don't have to worry about anatomy when figure drawing because its all there laid out for you. Its when you're at home after school you pop open the anatomy books and learn what and where everything is. So don't think, just draw. gesture, measure, draw, refine, render. But im new, so I might be going about it the wrong way.
DavePalumbo
May 8th, 2008, 02:41 AM
fear of looking at the penis for fear of being viewed as gay combined with being a bit of a pervert
which reminds me of when I saw Borat in a crowded theater and any time there was a hint of male nudity, there was a chorus of 150 frat dudes groaning together so their buddies wouldn't think they were approving of (ohmygod!) seeing a naked man! :nohope:
HunterKiller_
May 8th, 2008, 04:00 AM
any time there was a hint of male nudity, there was a chorus of 150 frat dudes groaning together so their buddies wouldn't think they were approving of (ohmygod!) seeing a naked man! :nohope:
Haha. So true.
However, I don't blame them in this specific case. I was horrified by the nude wrestling scene.
Ilaekae
May 8th, 2008, 09:04 AM
Gawd! I'm surrounded by ball-less wonders...thank the Goddess I have some great chicks here to laugh at dicks with... :P
Cthogua
May 8th, 2008, 04:34 PM
I dunno, I think sexuality is really more of a spectrum rather than the duality we're lead to believe in our societies nowadays. Sure You're probably born tuned more one way than the other, but there are things to be appriciated in the form of both sexes. Also alot of ancient societies were alot more liberal regarding sexuality than we are nowadays. Everyone knows about the Greeks and Romans, but many other anicent cultures took a "whatever gets ya off" approach to sex as well. From what I've read in alot of Celtic groups generally men only slept with woman to make babies, and otherwise prefered male lovers. Ancient Egypt tolerated all sorts of bizarre sexual practices. Homosexuality was also fairly common amoungst the Samuri of fuedal Japan. I suppose we mostly have the domination of the Abrahmaic religions to thank for the now prudish nature of the world at large.
DavePalumbo
May 8th, 2008, 06:41 PM
I dunno, I think sexuality is really more of a spectrum rather than the duality we're lead to believe in our societies nowadays. Sure You're probably born tuned more one way than the other, but there are things to be appriciated in the form of both sexes. Also alot of ancient societies were alot more liberal regarding sexuality than we are nowadays. Everyone knows about the Greeks and Romans, but many other anicent cultures took a "whatever gets ya off" approach to sex as well. From what I've read in alot of Celtic groups generally men only slept with woman to make babies, and otherwise prefered male lovers. Ancient Egypt tolerated all sorts of bizarre sexual practices. Homosexuality was also fairly common amoungst the Samuri of fuedal Japan. I suppose we mostly have the domination of the Abrahmaic religions to thank for the now prudish nature of the world at large.
well said
Jake Kobrin
May 8th, 2008, 06:59 PM
Notice that Nam is not responding... I think this was a joke.
nonie
May 8th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Joke or not, interesting topic :P
Mirana
May 8th, 2008, 11:47 PM
I agree.
Coinpurse
May 9th, 2008, 12:58 AM
lol, Dave mentioned the nudity in Borat... At the movie Theater I went to, There was an older gent in the front row who cheered everytime a flash would happen. Reminds me of this thread :D
HunterKiller_
May 9th, 2008, 01:55 AM
Notice that Nam is not responding... I think this was a joke.
He's gonna get banned for life.
DUN DUN DUN!
Boolean
May 9th, 2008, 02:42 AM
In the opposite case, I've always wondered how male models are able to stand nude in front a group of people, sometimes in front of really good looking girls, and never get a boner =/
DavePalumbo
May 9th, 2008, 11:23 AM
dude, that's what makes them professionals! but no, seriously, it happens, I think there was a thread about life model mishaps someplace...
polydrawer
May 9th, 2008, 11:52 AM
In the opposite case, I've always wondered how male models are able to stand nude in front a group of people, sometimes in front of really good looking girls, and never get a boner =/
in my previous school there was a male model who tied a rubber band around it so that kinda thing couldn't happen.
Everyone was wondering why he did that but he explained it when the weird stares became to much for him :P
Nrx
May 9th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Isn't that going to make the erection worse? (thats basically a cock ring right? )
Ilaekae
May 9th, 2008, 12:47 PM
It takes blood to make an erection. Cut off most of the flow up front and you cant get one. A cock ring works the same way, but the blood is already there and can't get back out.
Mirana
May 9th, 2008, 12:56 PM
A rubber band? Owww. Hope he trimmed his pubes, 'cause even the removal would hurt.
Nrx
May 9th, 2008, 01:10 PM
It takes blood to make an erection. Cut off most of the flow up front and you cant get one. A cock ring works the same way, but the blood is already there and can't get back out.
Ah thank you for that usefull and informative post :D
But it couldn't stop all the blood could it? ahh dosn't matter one day i'll get one and experiment.
Ilaekae
May 9th, 2008, 01:18 PM
AHA! And a new saga begins...Captain Nrx grabs the helm and rubber-band launches his nubile crew into a brave new world!
[Volume 8 on Sale May 23 at all your local friendly comic outlets.]
:P
Nrx
May 9th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Sounds like it'll fit into my post apocalyptic empire perfectly! can't wait
(and also i learnt a new word, i will now try and use nubile in conversation :P )
Ilaekae
May 9th, 2008, 01:42 PM
Nubility is the spark plug that jump-starts our headlong rush into the future, somewhere around 11-13, which continues until we slam into that final wall with a smile on our face...
Elwell
May 9th, 2008, 10:31 PM
ahh dosn't matter one day i'll get one and experiment.
An erection?
HunterKiller_
May 9th, 2008, 10:58 PM
An erection?
Bahahaha.
So yeah, I wonder where Nam is.
Gonzossm
May 9th, 2008, 11:17 PM
whenever i reach that part of the male figure i dont draw it out. i just leave a little buldge right there in between his legs and move on. ive drawn a couple of dicks, but just for fun *ex: i drew a penis thread*. ive never actually sat there and made one look real and detailed. for me it feels to weird to be doing that. so i just skip it, and if you think about it. do you really need to learn how to draw a detailed one? not really it isnt essential. usually your characters are gonna have clothes on them.
DavePalumbo
May 9th, 2008, 11:37 PM
do you really need to learn how to draw a detailed one?
on the other hand, what is there to be afraid of? You touch one every day (you know, assuming you're a dude)
Ilaekae
May 10th, 2008, 12:13 AM
...and sometimes if you're not one...
daestwen
May 10th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Yeah, I'm wondering on the OP disappearance myself... though his profile says his lasts posts are from the same day he posted this, so.
I don't take homophobic jokes lightly, though, lemme tell you. :P
Maridius
May 10th, 2008, 02:46 AM
on the other hand, what is there to be afraid of? You touch one every day (you know, assuming you're a dude)
Hell, so do I (not a dude) :P All part of the marital package, you know. I have ongoing touching rights, per Washington State law--look it up.
I've been drawing said package as a little box too (Loomis fashion)just to get on with the main show, though I'm way past the age of being all 'tee hee a penis!' about drawing them. In my age group I see the opposite problem. We're a bunch of perverts. Women my age who can wield a pencil with some skill, when they want to draw sexy guys, tend to draw the dick first and work in the rest of the guy around that, as an afterthought. It's especially bad with Snape fanartists. You get this giant sausage, complete with veinous details and painstakingly rendered skin textures and really the guy attached to it should fall over or faint or both. Makes me laugh every time.
Oh and if the OP isn't just joking around, you'll get over the embarrassment in time if you don't focus too much on sex bits and just treat them as any other part of anatomy. After all a penis is nothing more than a tube with a cap on. No biggie. Er, so to speak :D
Nrx
May 10th, 2008, 07:09 AM
An erection?
God damn i walked into that , no, not a erection either :P
meowoot
May 10th, 2008, 10:21 AM
Women my age who can wield a pencil with some skill, when they want to draw sexy guys, tend to draw the dick first and work in the rest of the guy around that, as an afterthought. It's especially bad with Snape fanartists. You get this giant sausage, complete with veinous details and painstakingly rendered skin textures and really the guy attached to it should fall over or faint or both. Makes me laugh every time.
A lot of times when the body is an afterthought, it makes for some pretty bad perspective/anatomy errors. I always find it fun to point them out, then the people who were like "OMG hawt" before won't be able to unsee the errors and the picture is ruined for them. I think the funniest time I saw this was with a hentai pic and the girl in it had like this RIDICULOUSLY pointed chin. The rest of the drawing was decent, but she just had this chin that looked like it came off of a generic witch drawing. Once someone pointed it out everyone in the entire comment section fell like dominoes. They couldn't unsee the chin and anything the drawing did for them was destroyed.
Blaz
May 10th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Joke or not, interesting topic :P
I second it! :yayca:
From what I understand of life drawing, you don't pay attention to what you're drawing, you just draw it. Does that make sense? Whether you're drawing a still life or a figure, it should be the same in your mind, you're just translating from your eyes to your paper. You don't have to worry about anatomy when figure drawing because its all there laid out for you. Its when you're at home after school you pop open the anatomy books and learn what and where everything is. So don't think, just draw. gesture, measure, draw, refine, render. But im new, so I might be going about it the wrong way.
Indeed, to prevent it we shouldnt look at the model as something erotic (unless intended to), but from a "studying" point of view.
Naomi Ningishzidda
May 10th, 2008, 12:52 PM
I get horny when I draw lots of the time.
I like it.
Nam
May 10th, 2008, 04:35 PM
can't believe the topic mushroomed into this. thanks a ton guys. I no longer have to strain under the onus of this habbit. Just gotta stand tall and face this thing.
^Post above me: I'm listening...
meowoot
May 10th, 2008, 04:43 PM
can't believe the topic mushroomed into this. thanks a ton guys. I no longer have to strain under the onus of this habbit. Just gotta stand tall and face this thing.
It's a topic about penises. This surprises you?
Also, does this post contain 2 dick jokes or is my mind just in the gutter?
eskanto
May 10th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Also, does this post contain 2 dick jokes or is my mind just in the gutter?
just what I was thinking... :)
tjtiger
May 10th, 2008, 05:16 PM
I have done full frontal self portraits and have to say I did enjoy doing them. In the real world the penis is a powerful tool. Often it is misunderstood. And if you do not get aroused slightly from your own interpretation of the organ then I don't think you are human. In my part of the world sex is still taboo and anything to do with it unspoken. So I would not really worry about the meaning of this. We all get off on both sexes at some point in our lives. That is why we buy adult movies. Some with three x's not just one. So Nam, Roll with it. And it doesn't have to be enormous to make a statement.
Love the skin your in...
eskanto
May 10th, 2008, 06:04 PM
In the real world the penis is a powerful tool.
Yes. When coupled with something else, they make babies.
Naomi Ningishzidda
May 11th, 2008, 12:58 PM
One thing you should have already learned as an artist from figure class or anime even is that the human body is a beautiful thing and we shouldn't allow sociatal taboos (which are false gods really) to color our interpretation of every body part...
penises are yummy to look at :yum:
Being horny is a normal human condition....and it should be embraced
it's natural
it's healthy
(post #69 w00t)
tjtiger
May 11th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Yes. When coupled with something else, they make babies.
Yes I know this first hand. I have a seven year old daughter. So all I ask is that you don't lie to yourself.
HunterKiller_
May 12th, 2008, 02:41 AM
In the real world the penis is a powerful tool.
Now I can't wait to go into the real world.
... Wonder if it will shoot lasers...?
Maidith
May 12th, 2008, 07:01 AM
:tihi:
We need a new thread: "Funniest of CA" -
so we can link this thread there. For joke or not, it's entertaining.
Ilaekae
May 12th, 2008, 11:36 AM
I can open a can of beans with mine in an emergency. It's all a matter of just how hungry ARE you in the woods 500 miles from civilization... :P
DavePalumbo
May 12th, 2008, 12:24 PM
It's all a matter of just how hungry ARE you in the woods 500 miles from civilization...
combined with how many fingers you've lost in carpentry and pyrotechnics mishaps...
Tug Mcgroin
May 12th, 2008, 12:24 PM
....So all I ask is that you don't lie to yourself.
I lied to myself once. Then myself called me a liar. We haven't spoken since.
Ilaekae
May 12th, 2008, 12:40 PM
"combined with how many fingers you've lost in carpentry and pyrotechnics mishaps..."
...ssshhhhhhhhhhhh...
I've got them pretty much convinced I was raised in a contemplative monastery...
eskanto
May 12th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Yes I know this first hand. I have a seven year old daughter. So all I ask is that you don't lie to yourself.
???? ....so we BOTH know about the birds and the bees?.... :) I'm just messing about no harm intended, OK?
tjtiger
May 12th, 2008, 07:17 PM
I don't have that much of a sense of humor. Rather when my point is twisted. As all things in this life, it is our own interpretation. I apoligize for your lack of knowlege.
tjtiger
May 12th, 2008, 07:27 PM
Also, I would like to point out someone brought up a valid issue and alot of us are having a laugh at this person's expense. And I used "us" because if your not apart of the problem or the solution you are useless.
Flake
May 12th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Never mind
nonie
May 12th, 2008, 09:11 PM
Never mind
Seconded.
Elwell
May 12th, 2008, 09:27 PM
I don't have that much of a sense of humor.
You may want to work on that.
Mirana
May 13th, 2008, 12:14 AM
And I used "us" because if your not apart of the problem or the solution you are useless.
I'd like to be a part of the problem, but I don't have a penis.
But in all seriousness: He had a problem. He was given multiple things to try and serious discussion for a few pages. After that it's time for penis jokes because laughter about humans' fixation on sex is just as important. It reminds him and us that sex and sexual organs are not taboo and that topics like these are okay.
fanficbug
May 13th, 2008, 12:20 AM
I apoligize for your lack of knowlege.
Why do people consider statements like this apologies?
They tend to come off as more of a slap in the face because it's like saying, "But hey, here, I'll be decent . . . PSYCH, just kidding, it's all your fault again!"
But in all seriousness: He had a problem. He was given multiple things to try and serious discussion for a few pages. After that it's time for penis jokes because laughter about humans' fixation on sex is just as important. It reminds him and us that sex and sexual organs are not taboo and that topics like these are okay.
Yes, thank you. If the remedy of society is "love the skin you're in," yet we can't take that skin lightly enough to be able to talk about it without it being considered a holy relic, how are we supposed to feel comfortable enough to truly love it?
SinusAnimus, I hope you noticed that he joined in on the good-natured joking on his second post in the thread. So I doubt he is as much a victim as your statement "alot of us are having a laugh at this person's expense" would imply. He's laughing with us, in other words--and we certainly aren't laughing at him.
tjtiger
May 13th, 2008, 07:20 PM
What I meant by "your lack of knowlege" was referring to that person's lack of knowlege of me. I have very strong views and when I feel attacked because of them well, I go on the defensive. so sorry.
fanficbug
May 13th, 2008, 07:46 PM
What I meant by "your lack of knowlege" was referring to that person's lack of knowlege of me. I have very strong views and when I feel attacked because of them well, I go on the defensive. so sorry.
K, that's good. :)
tjtiger
May 26th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Here we go.....
NoSeRider
June 1st, 2008, 07:37 AM
Gay or Hetero, I don't believe you should have a chubby while in life drawing class. You can admire the human form, but at some point you have to learn how to detach yourself.....it's part of maturing.
Life drawing should be treated as an academic, not about how you feel.
It's about shape, contrast, value and anatomy, sometimes color.
Art might be about exploring your feelings, but when you're in an academic setting, maybe that's not the place?
healthwww
June 1st, 2008, 07:39 AM
Nam, buddy, it's okay.
I think you need to get it out of your system. I have a private sketchbook for such things.
Dave_
June 1st, 2008, 08:25 AM
It takes blood to make an erection. Cut off most of the flow up front and you cant get one. A cock ring works the same way, but the blood is already there and can't get back out.
So, where'd you get all that knowledge :sungod: ?
Nam, I think you're just too aware of it and of its function, if it was used for milking cows you wouldn't get a boner, i think.
Ilaekae
June 1st, 2008, 10:55 AM
"So, where'd you get all that knowledge"
Im wel vurzed in amananotimy becuaz I reede a lot.
NoSeRider
June 1st, 2008, 11:50 AM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2004261072683939226_rs.jpg
SDS71
June 1st, 2008, 07:23 PM
Nam, you might just be aroused by nudity in general. I can only speak from my own experience, but I do know that I myself am aroused not so much by certain features of the human body, but by nudity, either straightforward or implied.
In any case, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Try to remember that life drawing is not about sex; it's a tool for an artist. If you're aroused, work around it, get the drawing done, and try to remain academic.
Also, don't be afraid of what everyone else thinks. Someone mentioned maturing. Part of maturing is stopping one's worry about everyone else. Be the artist you want to be. If you're aroused, you're aroused. If you feel like you want to -- ummm -- satisfy your feelings, be sure to do so in a private place so you're not calling attention to yourself. There's no need to bring unwanted garbage your way from others.
In other words, keep your nose clean, and you should do fine. :)
Mirana
June 1st, 2008, 08:24 PM
If you feel like you want to -- ummm -- satisfy your feelings, be sure to do so in a private place so you're not calling attention to yourself.
Uhhhahaha...please mastrubate at your house before going to life drawing. Wacking off in a public restroom would be a fast way to get labeled a perv if you get caught. ;)
SDS71
June 2nd, 2008, 12:01 AM
Uhhhahaha...please mastrubate at your house before going to life drawing. Wacking off in a public restroom would be a fast way to get labeled a perv if you get caught. ;)
Well, that's a more direct way of putting it. :)
Or you could wait until you get home after the class. Either way, you're not getting negative labels from people around you on campus. ;) Labels are no fun at all. I should know. I was given a bunch of labels in High School, labels I'd rather forget about.
Who needs the labels? Be yourself, but keep a low profile when it comes to any arousal you might feel at class.
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