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vivektheanimator
May 6th, 2008, 10:28 AM
HI EVERYBODY THIS IS MY FIRST POST EVER ON ANYFORUM IN MY ENTIRE LIFE SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR ANY MISTAKE. I AM 25 NOW AND FROM PAST 2 YEARS LEARNING 3D ANIMATION ON SOFTWARES LIKE 3DS MAX AND MAYA. I CAME IN THIS FIELD BY CHANCE BUT NOW I FIND MY SOUL INVOLVED IN IT. I CANT THINK TO DO ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THIS CREATIVE FIELD OF ANIMATION AND FILMS. BUT I AM NOT INTRESTED IN BEING SIMPLY A COMPUTER ANIMATOR I WANT TO BE A ARTIST. I AM KEENLY INTRESTED IN FINE ARTS AND CONCEPT ART, STORY BOARDS, ILLUSTRATION AND FINALLY TRADITIONAL CELL ANIMATION. I DONT HAVE ANY FORMAL ART EDUCATION AND MY LEVEL IS LITTLE BETTER THEN BIGGNERS. BUT I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO GIVE UP AT ANY COST AND HAVE GIVEN MY SELF 2 YEARS TIME. CAN ANYONE PLEASE SUGGEST ME HOW SHOULD I PROCEED SO THAT NO MORE TIME IS WASTED I CANT AFFORD ANY SCHOOL ANY MORE ALREADY LOT OF MONEY IS SPEND ON 3D ANIMATION. PLEASE HELP. THANK YOU ALL. :muscle: :muscle:
vivektheanimator
May 6th, 2008, 11:07 AM
the one way of making gesture drawing is "fast and free fluid lines", is there any rules to be followed or we have to try to bring the form without showing any difference of both sexes. can we lift our hand while drawing.
J Wilson
May 6th, 2008, 11:31 AM
It's an often asked question. Since you are new to forums in general I'll quickly point out that reading though the various threads in this forum you'll probably find this same question asked often and answered pretty fully in many of those threads. All of them are worth a read as you'll probably get slightly different takes on the question from various people.
The good news is the way to improve as an artist doesn't have to cost you anything beyond the supplies needed to make art. There is so much information on the subject available for free on the internet that more and more it's becoming a very viable alternative to schools. You have easy access to skilled artists to replace (to a degree) instructors, and a vast amount of peers to act as fellow students.
The first thing to do on your road to becoming an artist is to recognise that nearly all objects can be broken down into much more basic shapes. When you have command over how to draw those basic shapes, and you see them in every day objects you are well on your way.
Rather than jumping right in on drawing details, or tracing an outline around the thing you want to draw, think more basic and 3 dimensional. Don't start drawing a body, hoping every line is perfectly placed. Instead draw a very rough indication of the body, made up of boxes and cylinders etc. This will give you a foundation to get proportions and perspective correct, and it lets you make changes to the pose early on before you commit to it with tons of details.
There's a wealth of information on this site. Dig through it and you'll find links to great books, other websites, tutorials and many other goldmines of information.
Good luck.
fanficbug
May 6th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Three things:
1. Find your capslock key and hit it so that we can read your text more easily.
2. Go to this forum (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=41) and start a sketchbook thread. Put your drawings in that thread.
3. DRAW! Draw every day. Work on the things you aren't good at. Look at others' critique and apply it to what you are doing. Little by little you'll get better.
vivektheanimator
May 6th, 2008, 12:17 PM
I M TRAINING MYSELF IN ART SO I DONT HAVE ANY ACCESS TO ANY ART SCHOOL, HOW CAN I LEARN GESTURE DRAWING WITHOUT A MODEL IN A SAME MANNER AS ONE LEARNS IN AN ART SCHOOL WITH A MODEL
fanficbug
May 6th, 2008, 01:09 PM
Before I answer your question, I have to say two things:
1. Lay off the caps!
2. Quit making so many threads! (You can just as easily post again in a thread you've already created, or better yet EDIT the post to include your other question(s).)
That being said . . .
www.posemaniacs.com/blog/ is great for gestures. Use its 30-second drawing utility.
fanficbug
May 6th, 2008, 01:11 PM
My recommendation to you is to get Bridgeman's works and check out his way of doing gestures.
As for whether you can lift your hand while drawing? Try it both ways and see which way works for you. Or train both ways so that you're good at both. It never hurt anyone to be good at two different methods.
armando
May 6th, 2008, 07:20 PM
Real people on the street, real animals, objects, and for more exteme actions movies, are better for gesture drawing than a nude model, because they're in real actions not poses.
Posemaniacs is good for learning the proportions of the figure, and articulating the figure, both of those things are very important, however it will not teach you real actions, all the little variations you find in real people, things as simple as sitting and reading the newspaper have a hundred dozen different ways of being done.
Gesture drawing shouldn't be defined by a time limit, but rather by how effective it carries the intended message. I usually think linear drawing when I think gesture, but every element in the design should have gesture, it all should have some meaning.
Costau D
May 6th, 2008, 08:20 PM
If you want to be a traditional animator the likes of Disney. Draw from life everywhere you go. Nothing is better gesture practice than drawing people and animals on the move. Also I recommend studying up on Vilppu. It's not just drawing "fast", but more effectively.
blackrobin
May 6th, 2008, 10:37 PM
HI EVERYBODY THIS IS MY FIRST POST EVER ON ANYFORUM IN MY ENTIRE LIFE SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR ANY MISTAKE.
post more, visit the forum more often, get to know other people, learn from them, socialize with everyone, be kind, make friends
BUT I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO GIVE UP AT ANY COST AND HAVE GIVEN MY SELF 2 YEARS TIME.
good :)
its not how you start it, its how you finish it and the ones who finish are the ones who dont give up
personally i think that you can be a 3D artist too, you probably already have the basic skills and more experience in 3D, 3D art can just as beautiful and amazing as digital paintings
anyway... good luck, work hard, and dont give up
vivektheanimator
May 7th, 2008, 06:17 AM
can anyone please tell me which will be a good site, book or technique for learning perspective drawings and lights and shading, also the still life drawingd.
HunterKiller_
May 7th, 2008, 06:39 AM
Don't mean to be rude, but if you took a little bit time to look around the forum, you would have found a lot on these subjects.
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108180
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=92665
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14035
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14739
And there's a lot more if you search.
fanficbug
May 7th, 2008, 11:49 AM
No offense, but you've started four threads so far, all of them asking similar questions.
It may be time to think about consolidating them into one thread (as I've said before).
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125200
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125204
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125196
(and now this one)
Please pick one and stick with it. Ask your other questions in those already existing threads and you'll get a lot more help, because the same people who have already answered your questions will come back to see your response(s), see you have another question, and answer it.
It will also give people (like me) who have been trying to help you more of a feeling like we aren't completely wasting our time. I wonder if you're even listening to what I'm saying, honestly, because you start threads and then abandon them. So this is the last time I will be talking to you, unless you change your habits.
Further, the search button is your friend. Please learn to use it.
(But hey, at least you're not writing in all caps anymore . . . )
Elwell
May 7th, 2008, 11:54 AM
I've consolidated these into one thread.
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