"It is tiiime!" -Governor SCHWARZENEGGER

[JoshuaTheJames]

Conan O'Brien referred to him as "the gift that'll just keep on giving."

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031008/s/r314203741.jpg

I think he sounds pretty competent. I hope things work out well.

What are your thoughts?

-Joshua

[Sammy]

This is just too much to take in!
:realmad: :shocked: :bs: :fruit: :hmm: :crosseyed :conehead; :dance:

so so many wonderfull emotions rushing at onece...
Time to sit back and bask in Governor Schwarzenegger's glory.

[sparth]

i wouldn't say i'm greatly exited about it.
but hey, the dude managed to succeed in this challenge, despite the usual bashing that always come up at the right time for the show.

good luck to him.;)

[Ant4d]

American dream

[mcotie]

He did marry a Kennedy. The guy is smart and knows what the hell he wants.

[MrMojo]

That still doesn't excuse the fact that he has no political experience, and good intentions don't go too far when governing a state.

[sparth]

and he's an illusionist too! look at the pic, the guy's got two right hands! :eek:

[mcotie]

Originally posted by MrMojo
good intentions don't go too far when governing a state.

niether does being the Governor.

[gekitsu]

well, my opinion is:

the actual politics is made by someone else. if he picked the guys standing behind him with a bit of care, politics might actually work well and people who elect schwarzenegger may also listen to what hes gonna say.

so if he tells the citizens to do more sport and stuff like that, and somebody actually listens to him, he accomplished something.

could be worse, imho.

re political experience: i thought arnold always was a little bit into politics.

[strych9ine]

Originally posted by gekitsu
could be worse, imho.


Yeah, it could be Stallone.

[RONIN]

Give it 2 years and someone will put forth a petition to allow him to be the first Non-American born person to run for President.

And from one of the other threads ... I think the Time Traveller from 2036 said this was one of the signs of the upcoming Apocalypse! :rofl:

[van]

Originally posted by MrMojo
That still doesn't excuse the fact that he has no political experience, and good intentions don't go too far when governing a state.

Gotta start somewhere.

[zeroe]

personally as a great fan of arnie, im kinda happy to see him get more screentime. but on a more political note im a bit unsure whether or not this will go anywhere. what he had to say sounded relatively reasonable though, so lets hope for the best

HASTA LA VISTA!

[Android]

http://www.infowars.com/print/nwo/exclusive_arnold.htm

[van]

Originally posted by Android
http://www.infowars.com/print/nwo/exclusive_arnold.htm

You know...when I was a kid I drank quite a bit and I also screwed quite a few girls. I remember getting into a fight when I was about 15 with this guy because I called him a no-good (my family was quite the racist bunch).

Now I am 27 with 2 kids (1 more on the way), a great wife, a great life really. I am not the same person I was as a teenager. I even was able to escape the racist BS that was spoonfed to me since birth.

Its called growing up. Everyone should do it. Arnold sounds like he has...we shall see. You cant always judge a person by their past.

[JoshuaTheJames]

thats awesome van!


Funny article.



.. Arnie MUST be a Nazi wanna be dictator I JUST READ IT... its gotta true... Arnold as a person means nothing... only what we want to believe

-Joshua

[jemstone]

As a citizen of California who voted against Mr. Schwarzzenager, I honestly hope he proves me wrong. Seriously. Politically moderate, I have a very strange view on things when compared to many of my fellow Californians.

I disagree with his stances on a good many things, but I suspect that if he's at least half as smart as people like to say he is, he will realize that while he may hold personal stances on many current issues, the people of this state won't stand for too many decisions going against their grain for long. I do wish that he'd attended more debates, and put his policies and "game-plans", as it were, out in the open. His secrecy on such things is disconcerting to me, to say the least.

As to him "growing up," well, yes it is possible. Here's hoping he proves me wrong.

-JEM

[Android]

yea, hes grown up to be the perfect puppet for the new world order

[van]

Look out for those black helicopters!

[cucaracha]

I always get kicked out my socks when I see how the people in America celebrate their politicans as if they were a messiah :confused:

You know, as a german I get scared by those things easily. A politican couldn't be celebrated in such ways here nowadays.

Originally posted by JOSHUATHEJAMES
I think he sounds pretty competent. I hope things work out well.

A german newspaper formulated it like this:
"Ich kann das; vertraut mir; Details spaeter."
- "I can do it; trust me; details later."

:)

cu

[Salieri]

unfortunately we can't recall the president. that guy has screwed up a lot more.

[Sammy]

yea, hes grown up to be the perfect puppet for the new world order
:nopity:

[van]

Originally posted by Sammy

:nopity:

You play divinely! :p

[JoshuaTheJames]

Originally posted by Android
yea, hes grown up to be the perfect puppet for the new world order

What do you mean by this?

-Joshua

[al-x]

ahh... what the heck

It worked for Reagan, why not give the guy a chance...

[WildSpruceMoose]

It doesn't affect me, but if I lived in cali, I'd have voted for him. Looks like a good guy with some decent policies. Not to mention he's a robot man! A robot./sarcasm

[chukw]

Thanks fo rthe link, Android. I voted against him. He's a self-confessed serial sexual predator, and you can't erase that by saying, "I'm sorry.". Do the crime, do the time... unless you're a rich, white American! Dark days ahead for California.

[foster]

arnold has always been an incredibly self absorbed egocentric man. the mistakes he made were not as a teenager but as and adult. further more he still makes those mistakes.

he is a popular Hollywood star that can't act but has great charisma. being an action movie star has nothing to do with who he is a man and and his abilities as a governor. i find it frightening that people are excited that he played a robot so "hey he will be a great politician". let me correct that, he will be a great politician but i do not think he will do great things for the people.

there are many things about this man that make it even hard to see his movies. i can't separate the actor from his actions. so i most certainly can not forgive him his transgressions and vote for him because he is "cool".

let me restate, his mistakes were not made as a teenager but as an adult. do not blindfold yourself with idol worship.

jon

[geoffd]

for a bit of background on what foster is say, go here (http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/arnoldoui1.html) this has an article in which arnold was interviewed during the late 70's... i think 1979 he was like 28 or 29. some of his sexual hijinks are talked about as well as some mention of drug use. he's a puppet... what android says is true.
pray for us all

[MrMojo]

Who isn't a puppet. Can you honestly say that many politians were completely self reliant and had no one behind them ( most likely their party) telling them exactly what to do, and when. However, since this happend so much, I really don't share Android's anarchist views.

[geoffd]

not so much anarchist views, just that there may be something brewing behind the scenes. conspiracy theory, etc. at least that's how i feel. who knows...
as far as a backing party, check out books about the illuminati. interesting stuff

[MrMojo]

Or the history books...Time and time again, powerful leaders have been acting simply as their advizers told them.

[el_kyrre]

hmmm... thats weird.

Why are y´all talking about arnolds life and the mistakes he did?
Sure he is egocentric and probably pretty self absorbed, I see that.

You know... he is in fact a pretty intelligent guy, and his determination allowed him to reach all the goals he wanted to reach. Did you know that he has a business degree?

I don´t care about people bullshitting ´bout Arnold, heck I don´t really care about Mr. Schwarzenegger himself.

But i really think you have to distinguish between politics and peoples private life. If he tries to keep his promises through talking and smiling, he´ll surely fail. But if he is as determined as he used to be in his other working areas, he really might be able to reach something.

we´ll see
el_kyrre
:chug:

[N D Hill]

One thing i noticed that's more off topic is that el_kyrre is the only one here who attempted to spell "Schwarzenegger" and spelled it correctly! Kudos!

[madphill]

One thing I've noticed is that Liberals are always whining. You can't make them happy. I'm super-happy that Arnolds in..and I was super-happy when Jesse Ventura went in. These are real men to a degree, especially when compared to the born and bred crooked ass white boys we vote into office everyday. Political experience or not, it's about morality, respect for your fellow man, and decision making. Reagan was a good president and a fine example of what I'm getting at. I...personally don't expect my elected officials to be perfect. Give me a guy who has banged a few women, kicked a little ass any day over some anti-confrontational, veggie shake drinking, virgin, washout. How many people do you know with no skeletons in their closet... I would like to know more about this whole Apocalypse thing....creepy. Anyone have a link?

[Payback]

If you're gonna piss and moan about it why don't you just reinstate Gray Davis.. otherwise:

http://www.wackyweaselworld.com/gamespot/flameINC/FU20.jpg

:p Hehe couldn't resist.

[foster]

am i liberal, yes. am i whining because i have serious misgivings about arnold as governor, no. in fact i am tacking my responsibility as a voting american and one with with desire to see this county go forwards in a less selfish manner seriously. more seriously as i get older. it is funny how it has become an old stand by for for someone more on the right to call democrats whiner's as if the republicans have never had the same reaction in similar circumstances.

if it was just banging women i would not care either. but it is unwanted sexual advances, sexual harassment when in a position of power.

when a man has no political background and no plan of action only a facade of the characters he plays what else do you look to other than his track record in dealing with people in places of work.

there are lots of smart republicans with business degrees in california. arnold was elected because and only because he was a movie star. that short sided idyol worship is what i find scary.

i have serious fears as to the direction this country is going. slowly information is being kept from us and slowly certain civil rights are being manipulated. anrold is a man who loved to manipulate and control people. he had fantasies of dictatorship. hmm, i'm not whining i just have my eyes open.

if he proves me wrong i honestly will be very happy. it is not about sides for me but about the people, all the people.

jon

[sparth]

nuff said jon
i'd vote for you mate

sparth

[malicious]

honestly. in the next presidential election, i expect bush to run and win. i'm not voting for him, i don't know if i'm voting at all. bush has a good chance of winning, imo because he's done *so* much for the US in the wake of 9/11.

if arnold does run for president, i might just vote for him. i don't know the specifics of his political career, but yeah. i'm pretty sure he's been in the game for a while. maybe i'm just playing devil's advocate. whatever, i have class to get to :|

[jemstone]

Arnold cannot run for President because he is not a natural born citizen of this country. This requirement was implemented into the process to keep foreign agents and interests from gaining a foothold in the Executive section of our government (note that it doesn't say anything about the Judicial or Legislative branches...), because, at the time our Constitution and the rules of political engagement for this country were being framed, it was a very real concern that England, having been ousted from our country by force of arms, would try to regain control by force of politic.

Personally, I think this continues to be a valid and important requirement for the Presidency.

Now, if only we could ensure the political (I'm with the President of France on this one, political is what matters, I could care less about personal) honesty and integrity of our Presidents, we'd be set.

-JEM

[Payback]

I knew all that, but a question popped into my mind yesterday.

Can an adopted person run for president?

I'd just like to say, wait a while before throwing shit at Arnold. He might do a good job. After all, not any of us have any idea what awaits California.

But if he doesn't... I'll join you in the throwing. :D

[jemstone]

Originally posted by Payback
I knew all that, but a question popped into my mind yesterday.

Can an adopted person run for president?

I'd just like to say, wait a while before throwing shit at Arnold. He might do a good job. After all, not any of us have any idea what awaits California.

But if he doesn't... I'll join you in the throwing. :D

I don't see any reason why someone who is a natural born citizen of this country, but is adopted, can not run for president. Adoption Agencies, the ones that are legitimate and above board, usually have all the requisite birth records and whatnot... albeit sealed up and kept private in nearly all cases. They could, under court order, be made to produce those.

The shadier agencies, or cases where the child is taken in as a ward of the state and with no link to their biological parents (abandoned children, and the like), might prove a different case.

As to Arnold, specifically, like I said, I really want him to prove me wrong, just like I wanted our current President to prove me wrong (but I refuse to get into that, because thus far, he hasn't...). Nothing would make me happier than for Arnold to do what he says he is going to do, and do it well. So long as he doesn't take rights away from the people to do it, and helps the people of this state unilaterally (as opposed to only certain income groups or special interests...), I'll be fine.

-JEM

[malicious]

<devil's advocate>the natural born citizen clause seems out of date to me. in our world community, i think it feasible to do enough background checks and whatnot to ensure the legitimacy of any candidate. some random can't just run for president effectively enough to be a concern. they'd have to be in politics for a number of years. in a case such as the govinator, i highly doubt he's secretly pushing some neo-austrian agenda. i doubt it would take more than a petition to get the ball rolling on such a thing.</devil's advocate>

[jemstone]

Originally posted by malicious
<devil's advocate>the natural born citizen clause seems out of date to me. in our world community, i think it feasible to do enough background checks and whatnot to ensure the legitimacy of any candidate. some random can't just run for president effectively enough to be a concern. they'd have to be in politics for a number of years. in a case such as the govinator, i highly doubt he's secretly pushing some neo-austrian agenda. i doubt it would take more than a petition to get the ball rolling on such a thing.</devil's advocate>

Nicely put! I honestly don't know enough about Arnold's politics, other than what can be obtained through public record and what little he's told the people of this state, to claim any sort of "agenda" on his part, other than that which immediately springs to mind as the agenda of any conservative (moderate or not) in a largely liberal environment.

I stand by my statement, though. I really do want him to prove me wrong. Very few things (winning the lottery, the affections of someone I'm rather taken with, or perhaps a paying writing gig at DC comics...) would make me happier.

-JEM

[RONIN]

I hate ALWAYS being right ... My timeline was just a little off.

Sen. wants to allow foreign born to run for Pres. (http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Jul/07162003/nation_w/75857.asp?q=q)

[JoshuaTheJames]

Thats a bill I'd fight against.... Btw I just got back from Kill Bill...

[RONIN]

WELL ... SPILL IT ....

[empty]

here's some arnold speak about his sexual harrassment...

http://www.nilsparker.com/mm/arnold-is-coming-louder.mov

I personally was never a fan of gray davis, even though i consider myself a democrat. he did not do much to help the people. i'm sure you would love to see your car registration triple. my neighber said her registration this year was more than her car payment. but i was completely against the recall in general, and definitely not in favor of arnold to win this thing.




larry flint should have won.

[Peepers]

I love the part where they allude to Arnold being a nazi because he mentioned aspects of Hitler that he found admirable. Of course he has admirable qualities, that's how he became so powerful.

[Irate Customer]

Arnold has been involved with politics for a few years now promoting activities for inner-city children. A bill, which he funded by spending $1.7 million of his own money, went into the bill and until the state is at a surplus, no more money will go into that bill. I think that is a very good way to look at things fiscally.

Just remember one thing, and one thing only. Arnold did not get elected because of his political genious, he got elected because he has charisma and because Gray Davis is a lying political who let down everyone he promised to support. Don't believe me? Unions, Immigrants, and State/City/County workers were promised much and got nothing if not the opposite due to irresposible spending on our friends looking out for us in Sac-town. These were the people who voted (barely) Davis back into office. They quickly decided that he wasn't worth a third vote.

This is the first time in 90+ years, that Calif. has done this. Change was needed, accomplished, and in motion.

Arnold has been pushing one thing and one thing only, to decrease spending by the state, and cut taxes to insert more consumer spending. California is the fifth largest economy IN THE WORLD. Right now we are a freaking mess and we need a hammer to come in and make things work. This is his mantra and his goal. I don't give a rip about his social views, and I don't care about his past, I want someone who is going to get our Workers' Comp insurance down to a level where we will have more people moving into Calif. creating jobs, instead of bailing out of the sinking ship due to being taxed out of competition.

I didn't vote for Arnold because I don't think he is the best man for the job. But he has some good ideas and I have no doubt he will do whatever it takes to make them happen. He has 16 months to get some results, then he is either out (which he could probably care less about), or he will get re-elected due to his actions over the next year and a half.

I just hope for the state of Calif. we get what we need to re-ignite our economy dammit.

Irate

[Theo]

I say nothing but good luck arnold. I love the bastard. sitting right now under a grande poster of him holdin his good ol' shotgun sittin on his harley from T2... and loving it.

Go arnold I say.

-T