::so Frustrated:: Why!!!?????????

[DeKal]

i have 4 damn gigs of ram but certain brushes still crash the program after a couple minutes sometimes seconds of use! yes they are complex brushes but i have 4 GIGS OF RAM!!!
ive tried having no programs running but it doesnt matter...why is this stilllllll happening!!???

help!

[ryuloulou]

if you're using xp, I believe that it cannot handle more than 2 go anyway.
which doesn't explains why your brushes are crushing your program.
if the programm is photshop, you should look in the parameters of memory gestion if you haven't already done it.
And if you are using vista, well...you shouldn't :)

[DeKal]

ryuloulou - how do i do this?

"if the programm is photshop, you should look in the parameters of memory gestion "

[ryuloulou]

here is a site with some usefull informations.

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb401088


Setting scratch disks

The Photoshop scratch disk is similar to virtual memory. For the best performance, you should set the scratch disk to a defragmented hard disk that has plenty of unused space and fast read/write speeds (rather than a network drive or removable media such as a Zip drive). Photoshop requires at least 1 GB of free hard-disk space, but more is recommended. If you have more than one hard disk volume, you should specify additional scratch disks. Photoshop CS2 supports up to 64 exabytes (EB) of scratch disk space on a total of four volumes. (An EB is equal to 1 billion gigabytes.) RAID 0 partitions provide the best possible performance as Photoshop scratch disks.

Note: Adobe recommends that you set the primary scratch disk to a different hard disk than the one Windows uses for its virtual memory or paging file.

To set the scratch disk:

1. Choose Edit > Preferences > Performance.
2. Select the Active? box for each hard disk you want to contain a scratch disk.

Note: Unless you have a drive that has considerable space open, and is defragmented regularly, choose more than one drive, if one or more is available.

3. Click OK.
4. Restart Photoshop.

Adjusting the cache levels

Photoshop uses image caching to redraw high-resolution images faster. With caching, Photoshop uses low-resolution versions of an image to quickly update the image on-screen as you work. To enable the Cache Levels option, specify the number (1 to 8) of low-resolution versions you want Photoshop to store (cache). The more versions of an image you have Photoshop cache, however, the slower it opens image files. In Photoshop, the default Cache Level setting is 6. Setting the Cache option to 1 disables image caching; only the current screen image is cached. Setting the Cache higher than 4 improves the performance when working on larger images by redrawing them faster. If you have performance issues in Photoshop CS3, set the Cache Level to 2 and then test your performance. If you are using small files, such as those to be used on the web, set your Cache Level to 1 or 2 to increase performance.

Note: Image caching may cause a less accurate preview. When necessary, view files at 100% to ensure an accurate preview.

To adjust the Cache Levels setting:

1. Choose Edit > Preferences > Performance.
2. Enter a value from 1 to 8 in the Cache Levels text box.
3. Restart Photoshop.




btw, If you are using a cs2 verion, I suggest you to upload to cs3. cs2 is a nightmare for the memory gestion.

Hope that it will work

[DeKal]

wooow...thanks so fucking much...i will try all that soon..seems like it should work..thanks again

[AdamR]

What about your other components? As Ryu said, if you're using a 32 bit operating system (regardless of it's flavor), it won't fully address that amount of RAM. It caps out at about 3.2GB. 64 bit operating systems can address, literally, billions, billions more. (Damn that's a lot of memory!)

Regardless, 512MB is enough to get by with lag time on some pretty complex brushes. The scratch disk could very well be the issue, so go ahead and try it and come back. If it still happens, give us your full PC specs (if you don't know them you can go to start > run > dxdiag for a bit of info) and we'll work from there.

[DeKal]

adam - i really appreciate it..i havnt tried the scratch disc yet. but heres my specs.

windows xp
pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
4 GB RAM

its only a year old.
thanks man

[AdamR]

Hm. That processor isn't the greatest but those should still be running it fine.

Yeah, just try to fix the scratch disk and see if it solves the problem.

Reinstalling PS might be a possible action if that doesn't work, just to see how things work out.

- Adam

[DeKal]

i went to memory and cach. i was running at 55% so i uped it allthe way to 100%.. = 1762 MB..
now it just takes a little longer for the brushes to crash the program.

i see the scratch disk feature...i only have one drive the C.. and under scratch disk it says first: startup...i can change it to C.
should i? what does that mean if i do? scared to mess things up..
thanks again adam and ryu.

[deadred]

i've experienced random crashes in cs2 (only for certain brushes) until i've patched it (patched version is 9.0.2)

there're patches available at the official site and i think it fixes some memory problems, if i recall correctly. my cs2 has been very stable ever since, hopefully that helps.

[AdamR]

Your startup is the C drive then, so changing it wouldn't do anything.

Perhaps try what deadred suggested?

[bumskee]

yeap it's the brushes.. you have to update your cs2 to a newer version it will crash regardless of what ur spec or scratch disk setup is..

and as for 4gb of ram.. 32 bit operating system can only address 4gb.. and photoshop can only address 2gb max I think..

[AdamR]

yeap it's the brushes.. you have to update your cs2
and as for 4gb of ram.. 32 bit operating system can only address 4gb.. and photoshop can only address 2gb max I think..

32 bit operating systems can only address about 3.2-3.5GB of RAM, which is still obviously a sufficient amount. I know using Vista x64 systems (which is what I'm on) you can use more than 2GB of RAM with PS; I'm not sure if that's still the case with XP.

But yeah, I've got a pretty top system and complex brush shapes can even give me a pain sometimes. Best to just use a different brush man; or at least make it smaller and go slower and you'll be able to get a bit more out of it.

[DeKal]

i guess cs3 it is then.

[bumskee]

technically 32bit addresses 4gb.. but it needs to reserve some space for vid card and other hardware in your system with mem which usually equates to around .5~1gb.. so it really depends on the amount of physical memory of other components in your system. but photoshop can ONLY do.. 2gb I think or something.. well mine only does 1.6gb of ram.. I have 4gb of ram and windows only sees 3.5 of it as well..

64bit system can address much much much more than 4gb.. but with all the driver issues..I wouldn't go there...

and as for Brush issue the OP is talking about it's NOT system issue, that's a bug with CS2.. you have to download the update from adobe to be any usable with certain brushes. Using a LARGE brush with quick strokes is something you will always face regardless of PS version..

[DeKal]

thanks a lot for your time min.
i did download the patch from adobe but havnt used my "crashing" brushes in the manner that they effect the program yet. hopefully it does the trick.
now i just gotta get you to comment in my sb.
ps...update yours!