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bhanu
March 25th, 2008, 08:46 AM
Heres an email that my girlfriend got from a friend of hers, Kalson Uche

Jazmine my dear,

As you requested here is my story of what happened to me on January 20 2008.

Without any incline there was a problem between two political parties, I heard people chanting war song. On peeping from office window I saw a mammoth crowd with different types of weapons approaching my hotel.
At first I thought it was a kind of demonstration until I started hearing gun shots and people crying.

Two of my staff well slaughtered like goats, and some others sustained bullet wounds.
They shot me on my right hand but I still managed to escape to the army barracks through the help of cyclist.
It was at the barrack I learnt that somebody from my tribe hit a political opponent from another tribe and he died. The victim's tribe started attacking from people my tribe who are controlling the economy of the country through commerce.
And I just spent a lot of money to renovate the hotel between November and December 2007.

I could not believe the number of corpses I saw around my burnt hotel the following day when the riot was brought under control. And nobody would believe that somebody would have the mind to set such a magnificent structure ablaze as my hotel was one of the best within the vicinity.
And to compound my woes, most of my staff were from the tribe that attacked my hotel, even the two dead staff were from that tribe. But their people are not ready to listen to the fact that it was their own people that killed them, rather thay have been making a lot of demands from me.
They threatened to burn my house if I fail to pay compensation for the death my staff that were killed.

I lost over $100,000 in cash.
I invested a lot on the hotel thinking it would be my pension, but few minutes took all that away.

I will appreciate any assistance I can get from you OR anybody, but the fact is that I just want to leave this country. If my people could make me lose all the things I have laboured, for, turn me to a Berger, I now detest everything about this country.

If I could get help from anywhere, my desire is now going to India to meet this lady that has encouraged me so much, and that lady is you.

As I'm talking to you, I'm now a shadow of my real self, but I strongly believe I will overcome this period.

Thanks for your concern, please continue to keep in touch with me, do not forsake me.

Regards,

Kalu Uche



And he sent pics hotel after and before the incident

heres the mail that he sent along with the pics
Dear Jazmine,

Thanks for everything. attached pictures are my hotel before the attack, the hotel after the attack, and my garden before the attack.
My heart bleeds each time I remember how I laboured to build the place, and even now I'm still indebted to the bank.

Although the hotel was insured, it will take a long time before the insurance company pays.
I will happily appreciate any help from any quater, no matter how little.
I expected your call as you promised.

God bless you

Kalu Uche (Kalson)




Really......I feel rather clueless about the whole thing....I want to help him....but really dont know what might be best way to do so.......
So now I turn to you guys ,my friends.....for help

I would really really like to hear some suggestions on how to help him through this time.....


If you want to contact me(please PM me) or
kalson Uche...please send your emails to

kalson_u@yahoo.com


Thanks much in advance for replies guys......

jadefoodog
March 25th, 2008, 10:59 AM
first you have to decide what you can do then what you want to do . however if hes in Somalia like im assuming (because of the tribes) that stuff happens all the time and you would be better off sending him a plane ticket assuming he wont be dead by the time it gets there.

that place is a crazy warzone probably one of the few places that should just be turned into a giant parking lot

Craig D
March 25th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Does your friend ACTUALLY know this person or has just exchanged emails?
Although I may be an extremely suspicious/cynical person this really does have all the makings of a scam.

jadefoodog
March 25th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Does your friend ACTUALLY know this person or has just exchanged emails?
Although I may be an extremely suspicious/cynical person this really does have all the makings of a scam.

good point

Blue
March 25th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Does your friend ACTUALLY know this person or has just exchanged emails?
Although I may be an extremely suspicious/cynical person this really does have all the makings of a scam.

This was the first thing to pop into my head as well. Part of this seems very much like our age old Nigerian prince who seems to lose his vast fortunes a few times a day.

jadefoodog
March 25th, 2008, 01:23 PM
This was the first thing to pop into my head as well. Part of this seems very much like our age old Nigerian prince who seems to lose his vast fortunes a few times a day.

i thought that at first but i read a artical the other day on Somalia and that kinda shit is like every day over here and the whole tribes thing instead of saying political faction is something ive only heard of from that region

but by all means one artical doesn't make me an expert but its just my opinion

TheDirtSyndicate
March 25th, 2008, 01:47 PM
Scaaammm

aesir
March 25th, 2008, 01:52 PM
scam. they copied the plot of hotel rwanda.

TheDirtSyndicate
March 25th, 2008, 02:02 PM
scam. they copied the plot of hotel rwanda.

hahah
thats fucking funny as shit.
SCAM ALERT!!! RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!
and tell your girlfriend she needs to go visit the real world from time to time.
my crazy grandmother flew all the way out here to LA to go to some christian "healing" thing... i swear to you, they made em get naked, lay on a table, and i quote my grandmother here:
"they pulled sin out of my body, it was in my stomach, it was shiny and dark red, almost black..."
i swear... she was baffled and stunned that they pulled this thing out of her without leaving a cut or a hole.
i soooo wanted to scream at her "it was a scam!!! its called slight of hand you MORON!!"
but she was my grandmother!! what the fuck am i supposed to do?!?!?

enrigo
March 25th, 2008, 02:14 PM
i soooo wanted to scream at her "it was a scam!!! its called slight of hand you MORON!!"
but she was my grandmother!! what the fuck am i supposed to do?!?!?

ROFL, that's the most awkward thing when your relative is into some kind of religious-cult. I know that feeling of wanting to scream at them. :ore:

Hyskoa
March 25th, 2008, 02:47 PM
but she was my grandmother!! what the fuck am i supposed to do?!?!?

Organize your own scam that would leave her without a penny.
Before other people steal your inheritage.

TheDirtSyndicate
March 25th, 2008, 02:53 PM
brilliant.
:D

Kek
March 25th, 2008, 03:56 PM
Obvious scam

Kresh
March 25th, 2008, 04:12 PM
do pine trees even grow in africa? and to have one already grown that big

madhatter106
March 25th, 2008, 04:26 PM
I can't find any mention of any Somalia hotel being destroyed on January 20, 2008 on the internets.

For that matter, since there's no name given of this supposed hotel, this smells an awful lot like a 419er or a Spanish Prisoner scam...

Mirana
March 25th, 2008, 06:38 PM
If this dude is in such need of help, how is he getting internet access?

ArtZealot
March 25th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Anyone see the episode of the office that starts out with Michael Scott, where he's fallen for the pyramid scheme thing and tries to sell the idea to the rest of the office?

It is what comes to mind when i read this because i think somebody has been had.

TheDirtSyndicate
March 25th, 2008, 07:16 PM
this is what comes to mind for ME:
http://www.coolnessroundup.com/image/2007/skeptical_cat_is_fraught_with_skepticism.jpg

fionkell
March 25th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Scam? No, it must be true, who'd do a thing as mean as that?

Else my Nigerian fortune wouldn't be on its way to me as we speak. The former royalty wouldn't lie to me, he emailed me personally.

bhanu
March 26th, 2008, 12:24 AM
Okay....I cant blame you for thinking this a scam but the facts are...
That my girlfriend have known each other for the past 6-7 years.....
They even talk on phone....
And the thing is that it was that a few days ago my girlfriend chatted with him after quite a long time....and then she got to know..I was on the phone with her then ,he told her what all happened , and she told me.....And then I prompted him to write a mail so he could get some help...of any type...

Its not some random mail that she got .

TheDirtSyndicate
March 26th, 2008, 02:02 AM
http://www.coolnessroundup.com/image/2007/skeptical_cat_is_fraught_with_skepticism.jpg

http://www.scamorama.com/
just look.
there are many different variations of this same shit. they rope you along, sometimes for YEARS, building a relationship so you can trust them.
just LOOK at all the shit on that website and tell me that you aren't skeptical.
if you aren't, im worried for you.

get your girlfriend to ask this person what the name of the hotel is.
get this person to provide proof. make them provide proof.
tell them flat out, "hey, im sorry i dont mean to offend you but, i've been to this website and have seen hundreds of emails EXACTLY LIKE YOURS, and im afraid that you might be trying to pull a scam on me. sorry... if you want blankets or maybe a TENT, i'll send em. but anything else, you're on your own"

stoph
March 26th, 2008, 03:56 AM
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March 26th, 2008, 04:10 AM
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Molly
March 26th, 2008, 06:20 AM
Bhanu, be careful matey. I know people here aren't very supportive, but there is a reason.
The majority of us are skeptical, as we all have experienced scam spam.
But, how can WE help your friend out? Surely, with a grand hotel like that, the local authorities woulda helped???
And if money is one way to help, how the hell are you going to get people here to donate?

[quote]...I lost over $100,000 in cash.
I invested a lot on the hotel thinking it would be my pension, but few minutes took all that away.
I will appreciate any assistance I can get from you OR anybody, but the fact is that I just want to leave this country. If my people could make me lose all the things I have laboured, for, turn me to a Berger, I now detest everything about this country.
If I could get help from anywhere, my desire is now going to India to meet this lady that has encouraged me so much, and that lady is you.[quote]

Seriously, right there^ is your scam.

Ashkitty
March 26th, 2008, 07:48 AM
I'm going to have to pipe in with agreement.

Not every scam follows the formula of offering you huge sums of money if you just do a little favor. This one, and it really does seem to be a scam, just plays on the natural inclination of goodwill in people. Especially that of young women -- I should know, I am one myself.

Like the pictures of the hotel, scammers will have evidence available to back up their stories. I'm sure you could demand more and you would get more. Many scambaiters (people who trick scammers themselves) have demanded artwork created, certain events enacted, and certain pictures taken, all have been obliged in most cases.

I think the most generous thing to do for this man would be tell him that you are a poor college student or menial worker or what have you, and really have zero money to send because you are poor. If he is truly an honest man in such a situation, surely he will understand someone else being down on their luck. He will not press the point again, and he will be nice about it, perhaps commiserating. If he is a scammer, he will likely either stop all contact, or start pushing pity on and being more demanding for funds, however subtle.

Besides, he said he did have insurance, right? That will take care of him, albeit eventually.

Oh, and if he brings up ANYTHING like "Well, I have insurince, it will pay me back later.. CAN I GET SOME MONEY TO TIDE ME OVER?" ..That is the stink of outright scam and it cannot be denied.

Always remember: A scammer is looking for easy money, and "They really will tell you absolutely anything they think you need to hear in order to scam you." (to quote http://www.419eater.com/)

Tread lightly.

wassermelone
March 26th, 2008, 08:33 AM
How did this relationship between your girlfriend and him start anyway?

Magic Man
March 26th, 2008, 08:42 AM
Hotel Rwanda...man, that movie really made my g/f cry =(

NoSeRider
March 26th, 2008, 09:52 AM
Here's an email I just received today. I don't know. I just don't trust the internet.

From: Miss Nadine Kwame


Dearest one,

I am so sorry if i may have interrupted or violated any of your policy,actually I am contacting you for a favour.

l am Miss Nadine Kwame, the only daughter of late Mr. Yao Kwame. My father was an engineer and a contractor with the Government of Cote D'Ivoire. It is sad to say that he passed away mysteriously in France during one of his business trips abroad.Though his sudden death was linked or rather suspected to be planned by one of his brother who accompanied him on that trip, but God knows the truth. My father told me that my mother died few hours after giving birth to me due to over bleeding, I never knew her and since then I grew up under the good care of my father alone.

Before the death of my father, he called the secretary who accompanied him to the hospital and told her that he has the sum of Eight Milion United State Dollars.(USD$8,000 000) left in a metalic Trunk box, which he deposited in one prime Security Company here in Abidjan, but the Security Company didn't know the content as money, because it was registered as family valuables, personally for security reasons. He made the secretary to understand that it was because of this wealth that made his brothers to be against him.He advised her that I should seek for a foreign partner abroad, who will help me to retreive that trunk box, and shipped it direct to his or her country, and also to travel along with him or her because my life will be in danger as soon as his brothers find out about that money in the Security Company.

My dear, i am just 19 years old and a Secondary School Level and really don't know what to do. This is because i have suffered a lot of set backs as a result of incessant political crisis here in Ivory coast, coupled with the fact that i have been chased out of my father's house, all because i dont want to tell his brothers any thing about my fathers wealth, which they have plan to take over from me all because i am still a small girl.

My dear, I am in a sincere desire for your humble assistance in this regards.Your suggestions and ideas will be highly regarded. I want you to assist me retreived this trunk box out from the Security Company's custody and shipped it direct to your country. And as soon as you received it, you will now make an arrangement for me to come over to your country to continue my education and also to invest that money into a good business with you.

I will be waiting for your urgent reply and also to know how much you will like to be your percentage from the money, after successful assistance to me in geting the trunk box retreived from the Security Company and shipped to your country.

Please my dear, if you find this mail offensive, please ignore it and accept my appology.
Thanks once again and may God bless you and your family as you give me a helping hand.

Sincerely,
Miss Nadine Kwame

bhanu
March 26th, 2008, 12:08 PM
First of all I am upset about howthis thing is turning out to be..
I understand the sentiment...we all are skeptical about scams ,
but I think if you think its a scam please pay no heed to it....
If you want to warn others...please do so(in this case it has been done so)
but why all the sarcastic comments...what if that guy there is genuine, what if he did go through all that....
TO tell you the truth I wanted to give him a link of this thread to show that there are people who share his pain....but now what the hell....


I myself have no evidence to support his words....
but there are things Id like to mention....
he never asked for any kind of support from us, he just wanted her(my girl) to hear him out...and it was me who prompted him to write the mail....
he still hasnt asked for anything....Just support.

He just mentioned that the state governor has shown interest in his case, and might be able to help him but that will take time... and he might be able to get some news clips too...

I am right now chatting with him

For anybody who cares

bhanusbane: hello
bhanusbane: great to see youhere
kalson_u: Hey, my guy
kalson_u: thanks for everthing
bhanusbane: uhh well I have done nothing....
kalson_u: did you get my mail, you moral encouragent means a lot to me, and it has really lifted my spirit
bhanusbane: I was just reading your mail, and really wanted to chat with you
bhanusbane: And here we are chatting....
kalson_u: that is it, you are a very nice guy
bhanusbane: btw please dont think that you are a burden on me
bhanusbane: hehe sounds like you are too
kalson_u: Please how do you mean?, my computer is hanging
bhanusbane: by reading your letters ,I can see a a good wise , knowledgeable man has written them
kalson_u: Thanks for the compliments, hope you are not teasing me
bhanusbane: oh no please dont think like that
kalson_u: I'm ok with you and I feel quite at home with people who understand me
bhanusbane: hehe thats great
bhanusbane: so how is everything with you?
kalson_u: Ask your woman she will tell you How much I value and appreciate positive minded individuals
bhanusbane: I do value too and think I am too, much like yourself
bhanusbane: I read in the mail.....that your state governor will help you....I am glad that something like is shaping up
kalson_u: You see I always say it that there is no accident in creation, and like minds will always meet irrespective of distance, race and colours
kalson_u: Your positive thought is one of the things that are making things happen for me
kalson_u: You wished me well and you desired that it would be well with me, and heaven said AMEN to that
bhanusbane: I hope everything works out...I know though the loss has been great for you ..I know things will get better
kalson_u: Thanks, and I owe a lot to people like you who could feel my pains. Do you know that I started seeing positive signs after I shared my feelings with Jazmine and she encouraged me
kalson_u: By the garce of God my story will soon become a testimony
bhanusbane: hmm...I have to say I am very sorry about one thing
bhanusbane: I wanted to get help for you
kalson_u: what is it
bhanusbane: but people out there are just so skeptic about everything
bhanusbane: They just cannot trust anybody anymore....
kalson_u: Who said you did not help me, you restored my courage
bhanusbane: Courage was always yours ,I wanted to help you in material ways too
kalson_u: If not for people like you I was really lost in thought, and I was actually giving up to discouragement, Please I will always see you as one of the people that gave me back my life and a new hope
kalson_u: Through you somebody asked me not to give up that he would send some money to me, even I'm yet to get the money I'm happy that somebody somewhere felt I SHOULD BE HELPED
bhanusbane: but I will do everything in my power to get help to you


Btw hes also a singer, a instrumentalist too....
He said he has made a music album , a master tape of sorts and has sent it to us....


SO I ASK YOU ,THE SKEPTICS ,WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED TO BE SURE THAT THAT GUY IS LEGIT?

Blue
March 26th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Yea that still screams con-artist. If he's convinced you so well, he's evidently more artistic then most.

How do you know he isn't a con-artist? Tell him you can hire a personal lawyer to investigate his case and work with his officials, or send him the cash which you would have to pay your friend to do it. If he picks cash (no matter HOW he words it) it is a scam. If he refuses your money, then more likely legit.

The second he accepts money from you, you've been conned. Regardless if you offer it and he never asks.



Example: My ex-girlfriend never asked me to do buy her things, but she had a way with manipulation where I offered to buy her things under the rouse of how broke she was at the time. We broke up when i found out she had about 12k in her savings (her mother told me she never buys anything, "boyfriends" always do). She conned me on a minor level. Free dinners, drinks, gifts... even gas money once or twice. She never asked for any of it, but she was suave enough get me to offer. She would say she had nothing saved and no cash on hand (always having an "emergency" where she needed cash), so it brought a generous side out of me. My mistake.

bhanu
March 26th, 2008, 12:22 PM
Still chatiing with him


Please read
bhanusbane: the news coverage , from the newspapers ...I am sure they would help us a lot
kalson_u: As I told you in my mail, I will search for it, I just got a call now that my governosaid I should be given $20,000 as compensation. Oh! God is great.
bhanusbane: God is Great.....
kalson_u: I will be going to government house tomorrow morning

EDIT-
he just called me to tell how happy he is....hehe .........

Blue
March 26th, 2008, 12:28 PM
Snippets are meaningless. The conclusion is what is key. If money every funnels from you to him, you've been conned.


Why would he be talking to strangers from across the world on the internet about such things? Why not family or friends? Did you ever get in financial trouble and begin a pen-pal relationship with someone in africa based on that event?

THINK. don't trust. THINK

bhanu
March 26th, 2008, 12:38 PM
I am trusting and thinking at the same time....

He just left , says hes gonna go out with his friends.....

haha gods great....

James Kei
March 26th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Bhanu, how did your girlfriend meet this guy initially?

Also, have you meet this guy in person? Has your girlfriend?

smugbug
March 26th, 2008, 01:56 PM
Name, address of hotel. In looking through these posts (albeit quickly), I did not spot any of that information.

Kek
March 26th, 2008, 02:34 PM
"EDIT-
he just called me to tell how happy he is....hehe ........."


He called you from overseas, just to say that, yet he has no money?

Is he really from Africa? or in your neighborhood?

enrigo
March 26th, 2008, 02:45 PM
I'm one of those cynical/skeptic guy, but man I've seen my grandma being cheated her retirement money by my uncle who was her ex-buisiness partner. My mother being cheated a couple of years ago by an insurance guy that I've known since I was a kid and mistaken for a family friend, and loads more of these bitter betrayal stuff.

For me, someone I heard about on the internet is probably the last that I will trust.

Peter Coene
March 26th, 2008, 02:59 PM
It is most likely a scam. It has all the markings: you've never met the guy in person, he's from africa, etc etc.

If its not a scam then he is trying to hook up with your girlfriend. I mean come on, look at the wording:


Jazmine my dear,

(scam text removed)

If I could get help from anywhere, my desire is now going to India to meet this lady that has encouraged me so much, and that lady is you.

As I'm talking to you, I'm now a shadow of my real self, but I strongly believe I will overcome this period.

Thanks for your concern, please continue to keep in touch with me, do not forsake me.

Regards,

Kalu Uche
I mean, the guy is practically waxing poetic. I mean, with the rest of the junk removed doesn't this look like a love letter to anyone else?

aesir
March 26th, 2008, 03:04 PM
just give him all your money already. Don Cheadle is not to be denied.

TheComicFilmBoy
March 26th, 2008, 05:20 PM
S to tha C to da A to teh M equals Scizzzam!!

yea.... my thoughts on this =)

SalOnimaruRem
March 26th, 2008, 11:28 PM
man i like to see some real evidence Bhanu not just conversation of u and him
i want to see his face
like some ppl said the name of the hotel and address
i want to see some actual news that this happen over there

bhanu
March 27th, 2008, 09:12 AM
I am not asking anybody here to believe it until they see proper evidence......
I am asking that nobody gets involved in any way until they see some proper solid evidence.....
FOr me , the fact the hes an old and supportive friend of my girlfriends is good enough...
Yes , hes only an online friend....and shes never met him in person...to answer james Kei's question.


It is most likely a scam. It has all the markings: you've never met the guy in person, he's from africa, etc etc.

If its not a scam then he is trying to hook up with your girlfriend. I mean come on, look at the wording:


Quote:
Jazmine my dear,

(scam text removed)

If I could get help from anywhere, my desire is now going to India to meet this lady that has encouraged me so much, and that lady is you.

As I'm talking to you, I'm now a shadow of my real self, but I strongly believe I will overcome this period.

Thanks for your concern, please continue to keep in touch with me, do not forsake me.

Regards,

Kalu Uche

I mean, the guy is practically waxing poetic. I mean, with the rest of the junk removed doesn't this look like a love letter to anyone else?

just give him all your money already. Don Cheadle is not to be denied.

See this is the type of talk I dont like....just mindless comments , having no regard for person who might actually be going through a really bad time....


P.s.-i have asked him for the name and the address of his hotel...

TZA
March 27th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Open your eyes, it's a scam. Stop getting other people involved.

Taj
March 27th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Although the hotel was insured, it will take a long time before the insurance company pays.

Leave it. He just has to wait. Why should anyone donate.

even though it's obvious, it's a scam. Face it, he's abusing your trust. quit trying to justify it.
Ether james Kei is right, or EVERY other person in this thread is.

KingUnicorn
March 27th, 2008, 11:20 AM
It's like seeing a ghost, and then asking your friends to join you one spooky evening in the hopes of recreating the experience...Never does quite work out the way we hope it will...All of our "evidence" becomes wind over a hollow in the ceiling or a nest of squirrels in the attic...

Bhanu, I think it's fair to say that you're a compassionate person touched by this man's story. It impacted you enough to bring it to a public forum and ask the throng of faceless thousands to support this man's supposed problems. No one thinks any ill of you for what you've done. If anything, I believe we're just looking out for your best interests.

While you're working to provide evidence to build a case for why this is a true and factual story, there's been just enough evidence presented to support why this is a horrible scam that you and your GF have become involved in.

I think we've come to a point where no matter what you provide, people just aren't going to share your response to this man's story. Perhaps we would all be better served if we cease trying to change opinions and go back to more fulfilling pursuits.

~KU

James Kei
March 27th, 2008, 11:47 AM
Professional scam artists can plant a seed years in advance before they spring the trap. Their demeanor is designed to be very warm and friendly, so that you will trust them when the time comes to take you for a ride.
Unfortunately, that's the risk you take when you acquire random friends online.
I know you are a good person Bhanu, and you have good intentions. But this guy is a fucking pro, and you've been had.
His story is a bit too outlandish to be taken seriously.

Peter Coene
March 27th, 2008, 02:07 PM
See this is the type of talk I dont like....just mindless comments , having no regard for person who might actually be going through a really bad time....
I wasn't being mindless on that one. Think of it, if he is for real and he is talking like that to your girlfriend then you need to be worried.

madhatter106
March 27th, 2008, 02:15 PM
P.s.-i have asked him for the name and the address of his hotel...

Wondering if you'll hear back from him in a "timely manner" on that.

Also wondering if and when he does provide that information, how possible it is to validate it. The street address may exist, but it could be some abandoned warehouse or peasant's shack...

hippl5
March 27th, 2008, 02:27 PM
I can't get a good look at the before and after pictures... If it's the day after, shouldn't there still be a few plants/trees, or at least patches of dirt or fallen tree trunks? It's like someone just picked up the tree and covered up the spot it was in.

wassermelone
March 27th, 2008, 02:47 PM
Bhanu, you still havnt answered how they met.

Ok, it was on the internet, but did he just email her out of the blue or what?

madhatter106
March 27th, 2008, 10:27 PM
He said he was shot in the hand, but that's a pretty extensively descriptive and verbose email. If I were shot in the hand, I bet the last thing I'd want to do is type...

Also, it just occured to me - why is he talking about his investment in "dollars," and not the currency of Somalia. Just a quick online search mentioned that their currency is the Somali Shilling...

mcmatz
March 28th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Also wondering if and when he does provide that information, how possible it is to validate it. The street address may exist, but it could be some abandoned warehouse or peasant's shack...

A google map with the aerial view might do it and if it is a hotel, it should come up on a map query for hotels.

--Madeline

Blue
March 28th, 2008, 01:50 AM
Really though, if you want to help people, help those in need near you. Local charity, red cross and soup kitchens sound better then sending your money to africa to an online pen pal.

I'm sure there is someone in your hometown who is sleeping in the cold tonight, homeless, who would benefit from you putting them up in a shelter for a few nights more then you sending your money to some supposed hotel tycoon in africa.

bhanu
March 28th, 2008, 08:09 AM
YOu got me Blue......
You really got me there......


I thought I covered the question that my girl and he met online.....

wassermelone
March 28th, 2008, 08:48 AM
I thought I covered the question that my girl and he met online.....

HOW did they meet online? On a forum? Through other friends? A random email out of the blue?

S.C. Watson
March 28th, 2008, 11:59 AM
bhanu - I know all the cynisism and skeptism are hard to take, especially when you want to help someone (an admirable trait, by the way) but keep in mind that no one here wants to see you or your girlfriend get scammed. That's why everyone is asking hard questions, because unfortunately this whole thing follows a *classic* scam structure.

Ultimately, it's up to you guys what you do, but I'd bet no one here really wants to say "We told you so".

You always have to approach *anything* that comes over the internet with *a lot* of skepticism. And, as someone said above, if you do want/need to help someone, it's always better to do so locally where you can see for yourself what is happening.

All the best,
~Oreg.

nacho
March 28th, 2008, 12:43 PM
I understand that you want to help someone who is obviously in trouble, and that's cool.. It's just that everything about his story smells fishy.

You should try contacting someone who is more experienced with these kind of scams. Try he folks at http://www.419eater.com/, provide them all the data you have about the guy and ask them what they think about it.. just to make sure.

You should be very careful with what you tell this person. Do not give him any personal data. You guys have never met him. It is not uncommon for scammers to build up a relationship with their victims.

I am 100% certain that this is a scam.

Queen Nehalania
March 31st, 2008, 12:21 PM
Since it is most likely a scam, if I were you or your girlfriend I'd just drop all contact with that guy...

Just don't email him, im him, or answer phone calls... Besides I wonder where he's calling and instant messaging from... If he supposedly lost everything.

Just let it sit for awhile and see if he still persists.

madhatter106
April 9th, 2008, 03:43 PM
Just remembered this thread and thought I'd check in to see the progress. I'm guessing the emails/chats stopped or petered out?

bhanu
April 10th, 2008, 07:36 AM
hey there,...
I am just trying to lay low with this guy....waiting to see he reintiates contact and talks about the accident...seriously right after he mentioned that he was getting help from government, he didnt mention much about it, and he did chat with my girlfriend...and even then , he was just grateful that we supported him and stuff like that....
hmmm I am wondering...yknow this does sound like a scam....but I am waiting and thinking ...if he was doing this for just money...or maybe just get some support or sympathy.....for something in future or something.....
I really dont know ....I just hope that that he was a genuine person....with a genuine crisis, whos crisis is over....
I will just wait and watch


Thank you all for reading

Boolean
April 10th, 2008, 09:29 AM
He still hasn't given a hotel name or even said what part of Africa he is in.

Max Challie
April 10th, 2008, 11:31 AM
Once again, how did your girlfriend meet him?

Peter Coene
April 10th, 2008, 12:30 PM
I still think he is trying to hit on your girlfriend.

Max Challie
April 11th, 2008, 03:58 AM
I'm not jumping on that yet, I just wonder how he met Bahnu's girlfriend. Bahnu seems to be avoiding the question.

life on the sofa
April 11th, 2008, 08:53 AM
i dont think it matters anymore anada all the arguments have been put forward for and against. for bhanu to see how it goes now.

but i think it was a scam, but i do HOPE it wasnt, but i can tell from how determined you were to help this guy bhanu that you yourself are a pretty generous and caring person, good too see :)

bhanu
April 11th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Ananda-hey, umm first of all my name is Bhanu..heheh
I thought I had addressed the question you mentioned earlier..
hmm they met at a chat room......she said that out of the people in the chatrooms , he seemed like the most sensible peroson, thats why she started chatting with him....
I have friends whom I have met in chatrooms so I not gonna question his legitibilty from this perspective....

Hmm like life on the sofa said....its pretty much done..this topic...its for me to find out the truth ,and I am gonna take my time...but lets see,

Thanks for reading....

Pavel Sokov
April 11th, 2008, 11:19 AM
dont ever read emails for help,etc.
just dont.
they are never real. there will never be an email asking you for help that is real.

because when people need real help they will come to you in person.

Max Challie
April 11th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Ananda-hey, umm first of all my name is Bhanu..heheh

Oh, sorry man. I really should have checked that first, my appologies.

I thought I had addressed the question you mentioned earlier..
hmm they met at a chat room......she said that out of the people in the chatrooms , he seemed like the most sensible peroson, thats why she started chatting with him....
I have friends whom I have met in chatrooms so I not gonna question his legitibilty from this perspective....

I see, thanks for covering that.

Hmm like life on the sofa said....its pretty much done..this topic...its for me to find out the truth ,and I am gonna take my time...but lets see,

Thanks for reading....

Alright. Good luck with everything!