Art Project, Movie concept.

[-TheOnly-]

(not sure if im posting this in the right spot, sorry if im not)


Today, While in Art class, my teacher, told us

"For your next assignment, I want you to Write a movie plot. And then Design and draw the Characters, monsters, and setting"

He said in this assignment, we are to do this fully on our own with no help or tips from him untill we produce one final peice. I asked him How to approach this, and he said these words:

"Write a plot, make up a movie, and give the plot to Experianced Artist and let them design the characters, Watch how they approach it"

He left me quite puzzled, but i figured, id Give it a go, and post my Movie plot here and see How YOU guys approached this.


Im No writer by ANY means, but i should help sell the idea. This is just a rough idea, not many Deails at ALL.

Movie:

Calvin jackson, a young man, Born and raised in poverty in the streets of L.A California, Resorted to Drug dealing, Gang banging, and robbery to put food on the table for him and his daugter. After Many Felonies Later, he Winds up life in prison. (haven't sorted out ALL the details yet).

7 years later, while sitting in a jail cell, he turns on the tv only to find out the world as he knows it, is being over runned by some Mutant Alien monster Sorta type things. Days later, he is let out of prision and offered by a mysterious man To be an a Mercenary to kill these monsters, for a price that is unknown.

He meets A father type figure Throughout his adventure, Which helps him Design a Battlesuit and weapons to fight back the Monsters.

Details from this point arent really needed.


(like i said, im not a writer, i know it sucks, but im not being graded on this im an Becomming artist) hahaha

Main Character Specs:

Calvin jackson:

Race: Black
Sex: male
Build: Medium, Muscular

I just want to see what you guys can come up with and HOW to approach it. Or if you have ANY tips on How to do this, much is greatly appreciated.

[Elwell]

So, you have a teacher who refuses to teach you anything, and when you ask for help he tells you to go find someone who can?

Great. How much are you paying for this?

[-TheOnly-]

So, you have a teacher who refuses to teach you anything, and when you ask for help he tells you to go find someone who can?

Great. How much are you paying for this?

too much >_>

We are all complaining..But he says "Its time for you to do work without the help of me"

[Elwell]

OK, but here's the deal: he's being payed, for his time and effort, to instruct you. Nobody here is. Asking for feedback on work that you've done is one thing, asking for someone else to provide examples is quite another. I'm afraid you're not going to find many takers.

Care to tell us what great educational institution this is?

[grenogs]

are you in school or college? if your in college or are having to pay for your tuition fees, i would seriously concider moving insitutes.

But anyway, have you concidered cheating? find a series of pictures you like, that all have a similer basic theme, then write the story/movie based around them images, and if your clever enough with your images, he'll never know the difference. Just make sure you ask the artists involved for permition first

[-TheOnly-]

are you in school or college? if your in college or are having to pay for your tuition fees, i would seriously concider moving insitutes.

But anyway, have you concidered cheating? find a series of pictures you like, that all have a similer basic theme, then write the story/movie based around them images, and if your clever enough with your images, he'll never know the difference. Just make sure you ask the artists involved for permition first

Its an Evening class, right down the road from my highschool who teaches "conceptual art"

but cheating? haha, id do it, just because this teacher is a moron and ill do it just to pass, but good luck findin an artist to agree haha

[misledtomisery]

if there is a dean, go to him/her about the instructor. if you are just paying "some guy" who is teaching "concept art" to unlucky individuals, what does a grade matter. if you did pay, i would seriously look at the syllabus, if there is one, for where it says no instruction will be provided. ask this instructor for their samples of this project, and what professionals illustrated his story for nothing, or what stories he (as a professional concept artist teaching a class) has illustrated for free. take your story to him and "watch his approach" to the process.
or, with the attitude way, you could just do a few stick figure drawings and present them for his feedback. say this was the "experienced artist's free version of concept art" for your story. if he questions the effort, simply reply you put as much effort into it as he has.
just my 2 cents.

[Renegade89]

you can start the project, try to make the best with you own effort and post on the critique center for some guidance on your process or specific doubts you may have, the fact that you teacher is mediocre is not enough reason not to learn, the blanks left in your education are the ones you should put the effort on filling by yourself, that is of course, if you ever care a crap about it.

You could cheat or ask(pay) someone else to do the job, maybe just not putting any effort and be mediocre, at the end,the only one getting screwed over by doing this will be yourself, aren´t this kind of activities the ones you want to work anyways? I dont see why a grade would mean more than learning

[madhatter106]

(not sure if im posting this in the right spot, sorry if im not)


Today, While in Art class, my teacher, told us

"For your next assignment, I want you to Write a movie plot. And then Design and draw the Characters, monsters, and setting"

He said in this assignment, we are to do this fully on our own with no help or tips from him untill we produce one final peice. I asked him How to approach this, and he said these words:

"Write a plot, make up a movie, and give the plot to Experianced Artist and let them design the characters, Watch how they approach it"

And he's teaching a concept art class? How does having an experienced artist actually do the artwork help? So you come up with the story, get someone to do the artwork, and then he critiques the artwork, which is someone else's? This makes no sense.

This sounds like a writing project, not an art project...

[Elwell]

I've moved this back to the lounge, since it's obviously just going to be discussion.

[notorious white moth]

it sounds to me like the idea here is to watch an experienced artist at work, and hopefully pick up something from their techniques
although frankly it sounds like it'd be a total crapshoot as far as how educational it would be

[aesir]

not too dissagree too much with elwell's point of view, but often times the important part of teaching isn't telling someone exactly how to approach something, but letting someone come up with their own ideas and concepts, and then helping the student realize them fully.

[VirusArtist]

"Watch how they approach it"

- THAT's simple: failure.

From my experience, concept art is all about presenting your own ideas first, then getting rejected by the art director/director, going back to the drawing board and coming back with designs based on the tips the AD gave you.

Then you get rejected again with some more specific pointers into the right direction, revise the design again, return again etc. until the design is spot on.

If you're lucky, the AD will like your initial designs right away, but that doesnt happen that often.

I agree with the others.. your teacher sucks. If he's trying to teach you how to be a concept artist, he definitly is pointing into the wrong direction.

Writing a movie and giving the script to other artists for conception is NOT part of being a concept artist. concept artists dont give orders. Their duty is to visualise other people's ideas in coherence with the other members of the art department in order to create a part of the unified look of a project- be it movies, books or computer games.

To make it simple: the head honcho tells you what to visualise and if that doesnt fit into the overall design he will tell you in wich direction you should be heading with your illustration. none of that involves creating a script or hiring other people to do your job.

cheers,
Etienne

[Mirana]

I'm down with the going to the dean/chair/head of community art center and saying, "I want my money back. I'm not paying someone to NOT teach me, and then when I ask for help, to tell me to get SOMEONE ELSE to draw it so I can learn from them." When you start threatening to yank money, that's when higher-ups listen. You get added credibility if you incite some of your fellow students to go with you. I went to a ridiculously expensive art school, but even they had a policy that if a certain percentage of the students complained about a class, you would get a refund (a $2100 refund--and it didn't matter how long the class had gone on!). At the very least, I would expect the "boss" to have a talk with the "teacher" about what they're paying him for.

[Imnapl]

Basically I agree with every one before me. The teacher isn't teaching. There does come a point when you have to work it out in your own way but the teacher should still give advice other than "find a professional artist to draw it for you."

[madhatter106]

Or this could all be some elaborate ruse that the OP has conjured up to get people here to submit artwork that he'll pass off as his own for the class?

I have to admit, this whole "teacher told me to go get others to do the art" thing sounds more and more far-fetched when I read it again, and the OP hasn't returned since his original posts on the 20th. I don't wanna call shenanigans but we basically have a hearsay story and the plea of "I just want to see what you guys can come up with and HOW to approach it." There's been no further elaboration or explanation, or answers to many of the questions we've posed in our replies along the way.

Either this is a situation of "crappy teacher wants me to learn from others and not him" or (what I've come to suspect is more the case) "can you guys help me with my book report?"