Downloadable Education Video Pricing

[Jason Manley]

Hey All,

First thanks for helping CA stay online. Without your support we could not afford to do this and keep the doors open.

There have been questions about how we are going to price things since we have offered 10 dollar prices on coro's set of vids (for example).

The downloadables are going to continue to be 14 dollars for the time being. Coro's videos may go up to that as well. We have no other 10 dollar videos coming out. I have no plans to cut that down again, though perhaps someday we will. We had to raise it to the current price in order to cover additional costs and might have to bump a dollar or two if we have to hire another editor to keep up with demand (people not wanting to wait too long for a second part). If it reaches a point where we can afford to cut costs ..great. We are of the mindset that this stuff should be affordable, after all.

You should be aware that your purchase goes to help this community grow, and that we are making these as cheap as we can. That has been the goal with CA since day one...to make art education that the founders (and many of you) had to pay thousands and thousands of dollars for, and years of industry experience to get, as cheap as humanly possible. All for the sake of the creative community as a whole. One should not have to be rich to learn this stuff. We are now serving it up on a plate.

The whole point of doing these is to support the artists who work hard to help teach and to see as much funding go into this community as possible. For example, we have had to invest a grip of money into new servers and are switching to multi-homed bandwidth to increase speed internationally. There is a list of things we want to do to make this place great. We can't do it without the support...so thanks.

So thanks thanks and thanks thanks thanks!!!!! We will continue to improve our teachings and quality as time goes on and things will only get better around here.

I hope that answers the costs question that keeps popping up.


Jason

[ricksmith]

Considering how much college or art schools cost, as well as the cost for [art] books
in general, $14 is an amazingly low cost for this sort of content...content from those
in the field willing to share their knowledge. Pretty much a steal however you want
to cut it.

R

[curt]

If it gets the videos out quicker, I'd gladly pay $15 or $16 for a video each.

[Kaffinated]

Thank you sir and all of MB for the ability to make these happen. I would gladly pay up to 20$ or more. The more would be depending on what the video was of. Still loads cheaper than DVDs. Still wanting some color theory Jason!

Cheers!
Kaff

[snootchy]

You da man Manley! Thanks for you and everyone else at Conceptart for all the hard work you guys put into this. I will be a supporter as long as my right hand is attached!! I think the prices are very reasonable considering (nothing against them, but...) Gn,omon charges a considerable amount more for their training dvds. I buy a issue of ImagineFX every month and that costs more than the vids you guys post, and I think the vids here are much better at showcasing the process to creating exciting illustrations. Keep up the good work mates!!!

SB(snootchy bootchy SketchBook) (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991)

[Takkik]

Great vids, with lot of release in few time. Superior to Gnomonology (more relase and actualy cheaper). Can't really compare to , with a full dvd they have more content on it so normal for the highter price.

Actualy the price is low, but I will not complaint about it ;) and I will not complaint either for a rise of the price for a better quality : faster release, better bandwith, and better sound quality !!! (specialy target the androide releases, my favourites but they have some sound issues).

Waiting next releases! (bring us Boss monster part 2 quickly pleeeeeaaaase! :xpld:

[cesmls]

I would gladly pay more than $14 for your videos! I just bought and watched Andrew Jones Fine Art Series Vol. One, and it was worth every penny!

Maybe you could have a 2-tier pricing - I know this would be more work - where students get a 20% off the price of the video - and raise the video price to, say, $20. Or have a system like The Burning Man event uses - $14 first 2 weeks, $20 second 2 weeks, $25 thereafter.

I buy a lot of knitting and quilting videos, at $39.95 + s/h, and they are very pedantic! Yours are much more engaging and inspiring, and they're downloadable too!

[Devere]

I want to personally thank you guys for the affordable art education that you guys are providing us with, only thing I wish it had started sooner, "paid $350 last year for a crash course on character design (all respects to he teacher but I think I learned more stuff I didn't know from watching a few of your videos than I learned in that class.) out side of my already expensive industrial design degree which has left me penny less at the moment." I wouldn't be able to afford anything else

[kollatt]

yeah, seriously. i've been waiting on the manley color theory vid ever since you announced it. GET DEM SHIT OUT SON!

no seriously.. community is really important to me ( and i believe to artists in general ), and it's wonderful that we get to pick and choose which and when we want to download. the other option would be a mandatory subscriber's fee.. which would you rather have? the content is well worth it. scrounge up all that change you loser artists have underneath that dirty ass couch cushion and BE GETTIN' YOU SOME GOOD OL' MB LEARNIN'!

[-leo]

There are a few key factors that keeps mb on track - quality content, low price and instant delivery. As long as you'll keep feeding us with quality content we'll definitely support you.

And ironically those mb vids providing more useful information than many forums.

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Rather then opening a topic only for this, I thought I'd post a suggestion here. Up above these forumopics/posts, there is the comercial for the individual videos that you guys sell, which is great! Could it be possible that one of those links would be a link to the GENERAL massiveblack page (so that one could click and go to a place where all your vides are in a list)? It's getting kinda crowded with all of them new vids (which is good) and then you could just rotate images from the latest vids... Just a suggestion.

[-leo]

Colrouphobic

http://dvd.massiveblack.com/downloads.html

and trailers
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=MassiveDVD&p=r

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Thanks Leo, I know about that, not my point though. Alot of people will pop in to these forums and see the spantastic commercials on the top of the page, but will get to the store and page of the video in particular. From there (because the store is a bit less intuitive then it should) it is actually quite difficult to get to MB's storefront where ALL vids are located in a list. So my thought was, to be able to get the ppl who haphazardly want to check the videos out, give them a link in the comercial-banner itself... Just a suggestion... Me? Im a regular to these forums (and in buying the vids) so I bookmarked all needed links...

[Serpian]

14 dollars is nothing. Whiners need to stop whining. Thank you Jason and MB! Keep em coming. I'm gonna buy some this week.

[kraal]

no matter how you look at it 14 dollars is something to some one without 14 dollars........ one day education will be free.... one day

[Heat]

no matter how you look at it 14 dollars is something to some one without 14 dollars........ one day education will be free.... one day

maybe it will in Ohio because Ohio has no education :mittenbop:

[kraal]

maybe it will in Ohio because Ohio has no education :mittenbop:

FYI--- cincinnati,ohio has one of the best/highest ranked industrial design programs available

[Jason Manley]

FYI--- cincinnati,ohio has one of the best/highest ranked industrial design programs available

yeah and it will run someone on student loans well over a hundred thousand dollars for it.

fourteen bucks starts sounding real good compared to a thousand dollar a month payment for twelve years...or more.

:)

cheap is the best we can do right now. thanks for the support everyone.


jason

[kraal]

ok i just want to clearify what i mean by free... in my mind. The quality from these vids and the track record of the artist and massive black would equate to adobe/corel/zbrush ect sponsoring and paying both massive black and the artist to distribute these videos for free. No mater how you look at it it is an ad for the software used. I havent drawn figures in photoshop till i say the jason chan vids. Never purchased zbrush till I saw andrews videos. No mater what banner ad ect pixlogic made I said I would never use that program. Along come a massive black download and i was sold.... in my opinion pixlogic owes massive black at least 10% of my sale .... nuff said

[ArtZealot]

Hey, just saying the pricing on the videos is great. i have zero problems with it. I love this site, been a member for i think almost 2 years. Without it i'm 100% positive i would have never nailed a job as a concept artist last year (which i'm still loving). I know you guys dont do advertising, and i respect that, i have no problem at all giving 14 bucks for the videos, i feel like it's going to a good cause. (not that massive black is poor by any means) but yeah, i have heard people bitch about the price. I just thought i'd give my two cents and say i'm fine with it.