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Robolus
September 25th, 2003, 10:50 AM
I spoke today with Marko Djurdjevic, and he told me that he will give a 2-day (2x8h) Concept Art Workshop in Colone, Germany at 1.-2. of November.

I will write more as soon I get more informations.

Blind
September 25th, 2003, 11:17 AM
$871.60 USD for a ticket to Cologne...

egerie
September 25th, 2003, 12:16 PM
Mister Djurdjevic you should paint some bills so we can swamp the place :)

Fipse
September 25th, 2003, 12:18 PM
45 minutes from my home - I´ll be in! we can talk on the Spiel ...

BTW I invite you to visit me when you´re up here!

Fipse

[edit] Aaaargh, we´re at the week from 1st - 7th of November in Sauerland - celebrating 20 years of our roleplaying group ...:bash:

Carnifex
September 25th, 2003, 01:23 PM
hmm...sounds very interesting...maybe i'll give it a go,even if that means some hours of travel...i live in austria

jester
September 25th, 2003, 01:35 PM
Fipse, don't tell me you get from Dortmund to Cologne in 45 minutes! It's rather 90-120 minutes. But yes, we'll be celebrating our Weird Circle! :D

Jester

R_M
September 25th, 2003, 01:51 PM
where do I sign on?

Robolus
September 25th, 2003, 02:22 PM
Robolus: Hey Marko, by the way, how much will your workshop cost?

Marko: 50 Euro!

Robolus: :eek: 50 Euro? You mean 500 Euro!

Marko: No, just 50 Euro!


Guys and girls, YOU HAVE TO COME!:chug:

Kortez
September 25th, 2003, 03:00 PM
Marko is basically giving it away, I wish I was in Germany...


hmmm... I wonder how long it would take to drive frome Copenhagen to Cologne. Cause the flight from Iceland to Denmark (and back) is like 230 euros.


I would love to attend this workshop. I have to come up with a plan.


Marko rocks :)

Marko Djurdjevic
September 25th, 2003, 03:52 PM
Wow!

Great to see so much feedback!
So far we're planning to do the workshop 1.-2. november in Colonge/Germany. We're currently managing some places where you people could stay over the weekend.

The workshop would include life-drawing classes, serious anatomy classes and composition classes. We have already about 20 people attending, which is more than Robby and I imagined, when he called me up with the idea of it this morning.
So everything is in the planning phase still, but we'll keep ya posted on this thread!

Kortez, if you reeee-aallyyyy manage to come down from Iceland to Cologne, you can attend for free. So much ambition must be rewarded!

So everyone who wants to attend seriously, please drop me a line over e-mail, so I can start managing things and put a newsgroup together.
My e-mail adress is: marko@djurdjevic.de

Stay tuned!

franz
September 25th, 2003, 04:47 PM
:eek:

Wow. I mean, WOW. I've been pissed off about not being in the US and missing all kinds of stuff so many times.. And now this opportunity.. 30 minutes by train. Wow. I'm stoked. http://forum.exler.ru/ib/html/emoticons/bud.gif

catterpillar
September 25th, 2003, 05:56 PM
damn! now if I was only in germany! and spoke german!

Jaku
September 25th, 2003, 05:56 PM
mmmmm... I´d love to be there, but that´s too far from vitoria. Maybe next time :D

cucaracha
September 26th, 2003, 06:56 AM
well... I'll see if I have to be in school then (every day is important, since I'll graduate in spring)

But otherwise - I think I'll have to go by train, it takes 6 hours... we'll see, it's a good offer.

cu

Dan.v.D.
September 26th, 2003, 08:05 AM
yay that´s a rad offer!!!

i´m so going there!

/me dances

Marko Djurdjevic
September 26th, 2003, 08:34 AM
Guys!

Resonance for the workshop is great, we get more and more participants and I'm just managing a place for you all, where you can stay over the weekend.
I also managed to book a life-model yesterday, which will assist in the life-drawing classes.

So far the workshop will include the following classes:
-life drawing
-value studies
-anatomy classes
-design classes
-composition
-portfolio reviews

Please, all of you who want to sign in, drop me an e-mail until Oct.5th! This is the last date to sign in!

Cheers
Marko

DragonGX
September 26th, 2003, 10:03 AM
edit: I jsut realized its going to be 16 hours.. nevermind!

WildSpruceMoose
September 26th, 2003, 06:38 PM
I live too far away to move to Colone for 2 days. I guess I'll just have to move there.

gekitsu
September 27th, 2003, 03:01 AM
whoah, that is cool :)

ill look up if i can manage things (get the car etcetera) to drive up there...

Kortez
September 27th, 2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Marko Djurdjevic
I'm just managing a place for you all, where you can stay over the weekend.


When you say "stay" do you mean like a place to sleep (like a youth hostel or something)? How much would that cost?

Originally posted by Marko Djurdjevic
Kortez, if you reeee-aallyyyy manage to come down from Iceland to Cologne, you can attend for free. So much ambition must be rewarded!


Thank you very much. I'm talking this through with my parents and they're not half as pessimistic as I would have thought. :)

:chug:

Robolus
September 27th, 2003, 10:14 AM
Kortez: Some of the other participants will sleep at a youth hostal. There are two really good ones in Cologne. One night will cost about 20 Euro. If you would come by plane or by train I could manage to drive you from the airport or train station to the hostal, so that you would have no problems with the language if you like!

Kortez
September 27th, 2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Robolus
Kortez: Some of the other participants will sleep at a youth hostal. There are two really good ones in Cologne. One night will cost about 20 Euro. If you would come by plane or by train I could manage to drive you from the airport or train station to the hostal, so that you would have no problems with the language if you like!

THANKS! I love you guys!

I'm trying to find info on trains from Copenhagen to Cologne. When I've done that, I'll be pretty much set to talk seriously about this with my parents :D :D


:chug: Again thanks, you guys rock so hard :chug:


EDIT: R_M, are you going? If you are, how are you going (train?) ?

:)

Dan.v.D.
September 27th, 2003, 11:44 AM
sleeping? :nono:

Ant4d
September 28th, 2003, 04:17 AM
is this thread for teasing? :)

R_M
October 1st, 2003, 05:06 AM
Kortez/ I am defenatley going, but don't know how at the moment.
Right now I am in Florence and will be there till the 10th of October and from the 26th October til 31th I will be in Rome, so I am not sure if I will take a night bus from Copenhagen the 31th evening or flying from Rome...

No matter what You will probaly have to fly to Copenhagen right?

All this dates hurt me head! if it isn't to late lets figure out somthing when I am back in little over a week.

Oblio
October 1st, 2003, 06:46 AM
I would love to be there - but unfortunately this year is out of question :(
Maybe some other time

Kortez
October 1st, 2003, 07:29 AM
I have a really tough decision ahead of me, Marko's workshop or Feng's DVD's

at the moment i'm going with the workshop and pray that I get some of the DVDs for christmas :)

But I'll have to rake in some extra cash if I want to go to Germany, and working weekends is out of the question cause I'm competing most weekends. :(

*rubs forehead in pain*

antihero
October 13th, 2003, 07:19 AM
Dammit, i missed the deadline.
Anyways, great idea!
Are there further events like this one planned?

antihero

Dan.v.D.
November 2nd, 2003, 02:27 PM
marko, rob & rob + the rest raaaaaaawwked big time!

Erik
November 3rd, 2003, 03:56 AM
Damn... How could i have missed this?

Finally something happening in Europe and not not in the US and i miss the whole thread.... *sulk*

So, how was it? Tell us the story!

E.

el_kyrre
November 3rd, 2003, 10:34 AM
I really need some alkohol right now to drown myself!

How could i´ve missed this whole thread??!?!
Is there going to be something like that again?!
I live in Düsseldorf, and I would gladly participate if there is going to be another workshop!

I tell you now... to everyone reading this: Please come by and slap me hard for screwing up, missing that thread!

I feel like having a bad dream or something... :bash:

el_kyrre

Dan.v.D.
November 3rd, 2003, 10:55 AM
dun worry marko was pretty happy with how it all turned out and talked bout doin it again.

someone from a german comic board made a quick gallery

http://www.markoheisig.de/workshop/

Erik
November 3rd, 2003, 11:08 AM
That wuld be really great! Count me in next time.

Nice pictures on the site !

E.

R_M
November 3rd, 2003, 12:31 PM
hi dan,
that was fast! its really cool to see the pics, I didn't snap many...

This morning a saw a sunrise from the airplane while sipping at some very much needed coffee, all the while I was thinking at the past 2 days, and nights! :beer:
Marko, Roberto, Alex, Diana, Klaus, Dan, Alex 2nd, karim and all the other people it was a pleasure meeting you and I had a blast during the workshop, just sign me up for the next one!

:chug:

Android
November 7th, 2003, 12:42 PM
Great work Marko. i cant wait to help you out with the next one!;)

Marko Djurdjevic
November 7th, 2003, 12:52 PM
YEAH!

Thanks to all the people who attended to the first workshop in Cologne and made it so successful.
I can proudly announce that the next workshop is already in the planing phase and will be held in Berlin/Germany early in january.

This time I will be supported by notorius Andrew Jones and Mr. Jason Manley himself and the workshop will take 4 full days of learning, drawing and painting.

We're currently organizing the whole baby and will have serious info for you by the end of next week. So everyone who missed out this first workshop, prepare for the next big event ;)



Cheers Marko

bRyaN
November 7th, 2003, 01:29 PM
Are you kidding me...all you guys are gonna be there...

i'm gonna have to find a way to get there now..plane tickets to Germany...

Is the workshop in English? if not it's cool i'lljust leanr by watching...

strych9ine
November 7th, 2003, 03:08 PM
What was that? You're bringing the next workshop to Chicago?

:chug:

Fipse
November 7th, 2003, 03:14 PM
Count me in, I don´t want to miss another one of this workshops ...

Time to show the Americans what a good german beer can do to them :chug:.

Fipse

Jaku
November 7th, 2003, 04:56 PM
I think i´ll be in this one. Even being farder seems the plane tickets are cheaper.
And 4 entire days drawing and drinking german beer... I can´t miss it
:beer:

Kortez
November 7th, 2003, 06:56 PM
after seeing the pictures.. i have decided that NOTHING will stop me from attending the next workshop. I'm gonna start saving.

See ya'll in january :D :D

el_kyrre
November 8th, 2003, 01:57 PM
i´ll be so friggin in there!!!

can´t wait to learn... and drink... and draw... and learn... and draw... and drink... drink...draw...

el_kyrre

Erik
November 10th, 2003, 02:03 AM
Great idea!

I've always wanted to go to Berlin! I hope there is still room on the list!

Erik

antihero
November 10th, 2003, 02:20 AM
Glad to hear that there is another event in front of us...
I asked the same question in another Thread:
Is there any "artistical skill level" that you assume us to have? I absolutely want to join, even more, since i had no serious art-education except for what i have learnt in this forums. But i don't want to "waste money" for bugging others with newbie-questions and not getting anything right just because i simply need other basic skills before joining this workshop.

Thanks for an answer!

antihero

al-x
November 10th, 2003, 08:22 AM
How much is this event gonna cost?

And how early in January is this gonna be?

Dan.v.D.
November 10th, 2003, 01:04 PM
how about making this sticky? given the amount of ppl that had missed this thread...

-W.-
November 10th, 2003, 04:30 PM
I really would like to go to this one too.
I hope you can give the date soon cause for 4 day i probably have to take some Urlaub.:D

bRyaN
November 12th, 2003, 12:46 PM
456USD for a flight from New York to Berlin Germany...

all i need is a date fellas....

wayfarer
November 14th, 2003, 09:34 AM
Please set the time in holidays or at least at a long weekend. I wanna join, too! Such an opportunity. I won´t miss a second one, as I read the first one in cologne. And, as already asked, how much does it cost?

Cassandra
November 17th, 2003, 12:46 PM
Oh, I missed this thread... :(

After all, Germany is much nearer than Texas for me :)

It would have been great to see Marko in action. Next time, maybe.

Dan.v.D.
November 26th, 2003, 02:02 AM
i´d be highly interested in an acrylics painting demo, especially to see what techniques and brushes make for the best results when painting wet on wet and when developing the painting through washes.

really just a demo regarding techniques to get smooth blending and stuff.

any thoughts on that?

pol
November 29th, 2003, 03:50 AM
mmmm... misssed this thread :( . Andrew Jones, Jason Manley and M Djurdjevic on a workshop 4 days... a bit far from Spain but that would be great.

Congratulations for starting something like this in Europe! :chug:

Erik
December 5th, 2003, 01:45 AM
Hi all,

I'm curious about the status of the workshops in januari. Are they still on? Do you know what the date will be because i have to ask time off from work...

Greets,
Erik

Kortez
December 5th, 2003, 05:54 AM
yes, I would love to hear a confirmed date. I need to order the flight, the earlier I book the less it will cost me :D

see ya'll (hopefully) in Berlin :D

OLSEN
December 6th, 2003, 07:54 AM
I would love to go, the train to berlin from my hometown is only 82 euro, not that expensive really. Anyhow, i have some questions.

Q1. My german is really kaputt, is there any point in me going or would it be a waste of money?

Q2. Will we consume large amounts of alcohol after class?

Q3. Where do i sleep?

Kortez
December 6th, 2003, 01:17 PM
it will be in english right... I was so close to flunking high school german it's not even funny. If it's gonna be in German I'm screwed :(

antihero
December 6th, 2003, 03:49 PM
I'd still like to know how you treat newbies (is it just a waste of time & money?)... :)

R_M
December 9th, 2003, 02:47 AM
i don't speak german, but the first workshop in koeln was one of the best experiences in a long time!

Karim M.
December 9th, 2003, 10:04 AM
Originally written by R_M
---------------------------
Marko, Roberto, Alex, Diana, Klaus, Dan, Alex 2nd, karim and all the other people it was a pleasure meeting you and I had a blast during the workshop, just sign me up for the next one
---------------------------
:chug: It was also a pleasure for me.
Is there a chance to see you on the next Workshop?

@Topic
The last Workshop was in german, but Jenny from Germany, an english teacher, translated the first day for R_M.
But I don't know if Jason Manley or Andrew Jones speak german ^^
Anyway I'm looking forward to this Workshop so much.
Everybody, who's able to, must come! :D

Marko Djurdjevic
December 9th, 2003, 11:01 AM
Sorry everyone,

I've been late on this one!

Please download the Registrationforms and bombard me with any questions you might have!



English
http://www.freire-design.de/Registrationform.doc

German
http://www.freire-design.de/anmeldung.doc

Thanks
Marko

Skank
December 9th, 2003, 11:32 AM
damn...
there are some times when i REALLY wish i didnt live in alaska...
3 of my favorite artists doing a workshop together...

$1500 for the plain ticket..hehe

oh well, i hope yall have fun and learn alot!

el_kyrre
December 9th, 2003, 12:10 PM
hey Marko!

i am curently filling out the form and i have a few questions regarding that form.

1. what is the mail adress the form is to be send to?

2. is it okay if i send you a jpg of the filled out form?

thanks

el_kyrre

ahhhh... forgot something!

how´s the schedule on that workshop?

i mean... are we going to draw like 24 hours a day, or is it more like 8 hours with some breaks...
not really that it matters because it is going to be awesome but i want to be mentaly prepared for that event! :chug:

antihero
December 9th, 2003, 12:47 PM
@Marko
I'd like to know if you assume as a basic-skill-level to join. I know that you can't say "67pts. in drawing, 87pts. in painting and 78pts in composition, etc." though maybe this is a stupid question. But i guess you can still say if you'd recommend it, to join if one (in fact: me) did not have any artistic education so far, except for what i learnt in these forums (progress thread).
I would be _really_ glad to hear something about this issue... I don't want to be a brake for all of you as well as i don't want to waste my money on something i'm simply not yet ready for...
weird. I hope you understand what i mean. :)

Thanks!

antihero

Marko Djurdjevic
December 9th, 2003, 01:55 PM
el kyrre:

Registration form is to be sent back to my e-mail adress: marko@djurdjevic.de
You'll get a notification afterwards, that we recieved the registration.
Yeah, and jpg is ok as long as you can keep it below 500kb.
I'll post schedule stuff soon, for now know, that the workshop is going 8 hours every day, from thursday to sunday.

antihero:

During the last workshop we had a multitude of different skill-levels and all the attendants were excited of having learned a ton during the two days. There is no skill-level you'll have to come up with, but you need the excitement and ambition to learn.
Maybe some of the people who did attend to the first workshop can post about their expierence with the differnet skill-levels and make sure, you don't waste your money.

Cheers

Marko

-W.-
December 10th, 2003, 02:26 AM
--Deleted--
:rolleyes:

antihero
December 10th, 2003, 02:53 AM
Thank you marko! I'm going crazy here on my stupid little office chair... I should write some html but how can i if i mind that there are only (?) 694 hours separating me from a workshop with Jason Manley, Andrew Jones and Marko Djurdjevic! This is going to be cool... I would still like to get some feedback from former participants but i guess i'm in... :)

R_M
December 10th, 2003, 03:19 AM
hej karim, how are you doing?

You bet I'll be there, that is if Marko wants me there...:chug:

Jaku
December 10th, 2003, 07:26 AM
Just a question Marko
What does the workshop fee include?
I mean, is some kind of documentation given, is the needed materials providen?
This question may sound stupid, but i´d be cool to know...

Karim M.
December 10th, 2003, 08:18 AM
@R_M
hey that's cool!
And please take your Laptop with you again, so you can show us some more of your drawings again :D
I'm looking forward to seeing you :chug:

@Antihero
For me I can say I'm an absolut beginner.
But the last Workshop was a good lesson for me. So I don't think you need special requierements.... imho....

antihero
December 10th, 2003, 08:55 AM
@Karim M: That's good to know man! Thank you for posting, seems like i'm in.
:rock: :nana

Allready excited...

Karim M.
December 10th, 2003, 09:52 AM
no prob mate :)

al-x
December 10th, 2003, 10:43 AM
F*ck!

Wont be able to transfer money from my savings account and submit the payement in time. Will leave for Hong Kong in just a couple of days...

Goddamnit!!

Will have to figure out if I can manage to solve this and if I can afford it if I find some way...

shit!. this is more expensive than my rent is... flying from Stockholm to Berlin is a ripp off! About a third of the price for flying to Hong Kong...

R_M
December 10th, 2003, 01:56 PM
No problem karim, I am never more than 5 meters away from my laptop, 300 km would be unthinkable!
:eek:

Same here, cheers mate:chug:

Marko Djurdjevic
December 10th, 2003, 07:29 PM
antihero: Cool, that you're in! Looking forward to see you there


R_M: Haha, if I want you to be there? Sure buddy, I'll show you my glass eating trick again, this time in front of the whole class! LOL!

Jaku: The Workshop fee is the compensation for flying the other artists in, organization and management costs paying the youth hostel rooms where the event is taking place and compensating us for teaching you over 4 days/8 hours a day. A certificate for participating at the workshop will be given to every attendand as well. You also get a lunch a day;)
It doesn't include providal of any materials. It's up to you, to take your sketchbook/laptop/whatever medium you use with you.

Cheers
Marko

Jaku
December 11th, 2003, 12:28 AM
Ok! I just wanted to now it... I´m in anyway. You´ll recieve news from me :chug:

Just one more thing. Please tell me that the workshop is in english, please...

-W.-
December 11th, 2003, 03:20 AM
i hope there is still a place.

It doesn't include providal of any materials. It's up to you, to take your sketchbook/laptop/whatever medium you use with you.

So do you have a suggestion about the material ,well i know what i use but maybe i could learn some new ways . ;)


--- You can give a bill for the payment of the workshop ,right ? --- for the tax :D

Skank
December 11th, 2003, 04:04 AM
if you guys do more of these you should think about filming them and selling the tapes/DVD's
im sure theres many of us here that would purchase them :chug:

Cassandra
December 11th, 2003, 07:44 AM
:cry: I can´t go to the workshop... I´m going to a live role playing game that weekend.

Jaku, you´re lucky. You must tell me (in spanish, of course :D ) how was it when you return.

antihero
December 11th, 2003, 07:46 AM
Can we have some more detailed information about the location? That would be nice for planning the journey since i'm not too familiar with berlin... :)

Seems like i'll have to leave home at 06:00 PM (07/01) to be in Berlin at 7:24 AM (08/02), plus i'll be allready leavin (i have to... work) on sunday... Anyways: Can't wait!

antihero

bRyaN
December 11th, 2003, 08:46 AM
What airport in Germany?

IT almsot looks impossible for me to go now...and i was looking forward to this...but it might cost me over 2,000 USD

Update: Found Flight for 716USD...so far so good...

pol
December 12th, 2003, 01:49 AM
looks a very good oportunity for people in Europe... only want to know if the whole workshop is going to be in english...my german isn't quite good :D

Fozzybar
December 12th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by pol
looks a very good oportunity for people in Europe... only want to know if the whole workshop is going to be in english...my german isn't quite good :D

Jason and Android will be there...so guess what language it will be? ;)

Fipse
December 12th, 2003, 03:37 AM
Kisuaheli?

Fipse

Marko Djurdjevic
December 12th, 2003, 12:36 PM
-W.-: Yes there is still a place and yes, a bill will be given if you need one for the tax.
Take all drawing and sketching materials with you, that you feel comfortable with. If you want to take stuff with you, that you still want to learn, do so, and ask during the WS. We will give answers best we can.

Skank: Good idea, already in planning

Cassandra: What? Get your ass on a plane and come over. You can have Larp sessions every other day, but this workshop will be unique for now. And the fun of learning something will be greater than jumping through the woods. See, Jaku already signed up, so he will be coming. Why don't you come over with him?

antihero:
Location is:

Jugendherberge "Am Wannsee"
Badeweg 1
14129 Berlin

pol: Parts of it will be in english other parts in german, depending on who is talking. :) I'll be doing both, translating and talking in english, while Jason and Andrew will be giving classes in english.

Fozzybar : Are you coming?:chug:

Fipse: Haha, yes, that's it:)

Fozzybar
December 12th, 2003, 04:28 PM
Marko, to answer your question:

The next days will be like a battle in myself. On the one hand i ever wanted to see Andrew and/or Jason in real (actually once i had a dream where i met Andrew while something like a workshop :rolleyes: ), and i probably would enjoy the workshop, to see all the artists/members in real coming from all over the world...

On the other hand my financial situation is not the best currently and if i would come it would be a pity to stay just for one day, which doesn't make the whole thing easier...

So, i really don't know yet....the fight goes on...5 days to think about i guess...or what's the deadline? 20th december as i read on the form...

Oblio
December 13th, 2003, 03:00 AM
maybe this will halp - whenever i have your problem Fozzy i remember a saying of my father:

You'll never remember tha ammount of money you had at a certain point - but always remember their benefit.

I'll say - try something. You'll have better days and you'll make the money back somehow. There is always a balance. It's hard to have both - your dream and your muny ;)
And is best not to regret it - if someone gives you some money right the next day.. you'll kill yourself :D
so.. i'll ask Jason and Andrew how you did at the workshop, ok ?

Oblio

antihero
December 13th, 2003, 08:12 AM
word up oblio...
*Fills out the form*

I'll be in for the whole 4 days but will leave on 6:00 PM (Sunday), going straight to work (after a 12 hours of sitting in a train) on monday... :D Well it's not coming back so whatever...

Looking forward to meet you guys!

antihero

Kortez
December 13th, 2003, 01:09 PM
My parents won't give me an answer until they see my school grades (18th of dec)... if they say no I'm totally gonna grow up to be a bum, live at home 'til I'm 40 and totally live off them until they kick me out... I need to go to this workshop.

I just hope it won't be ful by the time they see my grades :(

Kishlahar
December 13th, 2003, 08:20 PM
damn I'd like to go (not sure if I got time collage architecture got test first week back, preliminary design presentation 2nd week!), and flights from Standsted London to Berlin on ryanair ( http://www.ryanair.co.uk )are only £0.01 each way (going 8th Berlin at 9:00am back 11th Stansted 23:00 ) plus taxes of 13 which makes it only £26 so if anyone from around London is going I'd look at that..... not sure how long it will last though.

Jaku
December 18th, 2003, 04:05 PM
Marko check your PM and email.
I need international data of your account (IBAN CODE and SWIFT CODE) to do the payment.
I think anyone inside CE (not german) need this data.

Erik
December 20th, 2003, 02:59 PM
Why is it so damn difficult to simply transfer money within the EU???

Crazy banks always after making a buck out of people's trouble... Fight the system!

Marko, could you e-mail me your address so i can send money through Western Union?

E.

antihero
December 29th, 2003, 01:09 AM
has anyone (jaku?) received the information? i haven't... :(

Jaku
December 29th, 2003, 01:15 AM
no, i´m still waiting.
I hope Marko find a second to help us. :(

gekitsu
December 29th, 2003, 04:48 AM
i also asked marko for some information concerning the workshop... when to arrive best, how long the last day is planned to last (so i can plan my train back home) etcetera...
no reply as of today. :(

i dunno... the whole project looks like it is stuck.

Erik
December 29th, 2003, 01:40 PM
I hope not, as i've bought my ticket already...

antihero
December 30th, 2003, 12:45 AM
I've bought mine too...
Let's hope they're just busy/lazy...

R_M
December 30th, 2003, 01:05 AM
I would go with busy:p

I haven't bough my train tiket yet though..

Erik
January 2nd, 2004, 01:35 AM
I hope we get some info soon about where to go and all --- Anyone heard something yet?

gekitsu
January 2nd, 2004, 04:48 AM
i pm-ed jason about the problem. this is his reply:


Jason Manley wrote on December 31st, 2003 04:13 PM:
understood.

i am having the same problem with marko...no returned emails or pm's at all. I hope he is ok. It has been some time since i heard from him. I know he too was having health problems.

it will all be taken care of. I will find out more info and get back to you.

no worries.

It will most likely be moved. Andrew and I should have handled it all the entire time.

jason

R_M
January 2nd, 2004, 04:55 AM
can't help to worry though...

:(

if Jason or Andrew have any info, please tell us...

Erik
January 2nd, 2004, 06:11 AM
O_o ! thanx for the info!

I hope Marko is ok! I also hope the workshop can continue!

Any info will be appreciated. If it's moved or canceled i can try to get my tickets refunded by the train company, but this will obviously have less and less of a chance if i wait too long with trying ... and they're not that cheap... :-/

Happy newyear all

E.

antihero
January 2nd, 2004, 08:58 AM
Hmm...
I'll be going t berlin anyways (my ticke5ts wont be refunded), if the workshop cannot continue i'll just change the topic to "life-drawing-weekend"... That would be ok, though a workshop would still be a thousand times better... :(
Anyways, i hope marko is ok.

antihero

Erik
January 2nd, 2004, 09:51 AM
My ticket probably won't be refunded too -- if the workshop gets canceled maybe we can meet up in Berlin and have some beers and stuff -- and draw of course!

E.

Jaku
January 2nd, 2004, 10:36 AM
I have until monday to know if the workshop will be done or not. :(

I hope everything is ok.

Erik
January 2nd, 2004, 10:53 AM
Jason PMed me that he's still trying to contact Marko -- they'll let us know when they know it

E.

Fozzybar
January 2nd, 2004, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Erik
My ticket probably won't be refunded too -- if the workshop gets canceled maybe we can meet up in Berlin and have some beers and stuff -- and draw of course!

E.

I won't be in Berlin....but this was also my idea after reading the posts...You should definitely meet there guys!!! And don't forget to shoot some pictures!

antihero
January 2nd, 2004, 02:48 PM
@Erik: Yes sure! That would be great, can we exchange cellphone numbers or something like that if the workshop-thing fails...?

gekitsu
January 2nd, 2004, 04:08 PM
i just got mail from marko (as probably everyone who contacted him concerning the workshop) that berlin is officially cancelled due to too low number of participants. i'll let details etcetera to marko, if he decides to post here.

i just thought ill let you guys know it asap, so you may have a chance at ticket refunding.

:(

Jaku
January 2nd, 2004, 04:48 PM
got the email :(

R_M
January 3rd, 2004, 04:12 AM
got it to...:(

I would have loved to see your ugly faces, old friends a new ones...

and draw some...

and have a drink afterwards...

antihero
January 3rd, 2004, 08:32 AM
Got the email as well... as i wrote. I've got no chance to get a refund... So i'll be in berlin anyways.

Anyone else there to (as R_M wrote) draw some, drink some and meet some new faces...?

antihero

PS: I do understand that they canceled the thing but i do not understand why nobody could spread this information a bit earlier... Plus i think that i would have been better to announce the workshop earlier because the definitive information was very late, a fact that surely influenced the number of subsriptions... :(

Erik
January 3rd, 2004, 08:48 AM
:-/

I'll let you know if i come to Berlin monday morning as soon as i know what the train company says...

Perhaps we can arrange an alternative workshop? In some cheap location with just the few people that are coming?

E.

Karim M.
January 3rd, 2004, 08:52 AM
hm... that's sad :cry:
anyway I think there is no chance to change this fact.


@Robby #1, Robby #2, Marc, Joseph and all the other guys

It's sad we cannot meet in Berlin, but I hope there will be some way to meet again in future. :chug:

Jens
January 3rd, 2004, 10:11 AM
sorry for you guys but mayby it was because a lot of people who wanned to come have exams when the workshop was going to happen, like me.

bRyaN
January 3rd, 2004, 05:33 PM
Sorry to hear about the cancellation...

i wanted to go so badly, and if it wasn't for some money issues that arisen i would've definately signed up to attend...

Hopefully sometime in the future...

Erik
January 5th, 2004, 03:44 AM
Hey guys i got my train tickets refunded ;-) so no financial stress here. Does mean i won;t go to Berlin though... But since i can work those days i have more free days left for when the course is planned later.

Have fun in Berlin!

E.

antihero
January 5th, 2004, 03:59 AM
:mad: ;)

Let's go and get some one-man-holidays... :)

R_M
January 5th, 2004, 09:15 AM
I waited to book a train ticket till I got confirmation...so I am not going either.

Antihero/ Berlin is a very nice city! get the best out of this trip.

Jaku
January 5th, 2004, 11:11 AM
i got part of my money refunded so i´m not going either.
Have fun!

Fozzybar
January 5th, 2004, 02:44 PM
hey, admins...i think antihero deserves a title after this occasion!

He's a real antihero now!

Visit the zoo over there anti! The hippo enclosure is amazing! Don't pay extra money for the aquarium though, it's not worth it ;)

Erik
January 5th, 2004, 03:13 PM
My girlfriend says that you should go to a Fruhstuck cafe on sunday morning - there is unlimited food there and it';s a lot of fun meeting people. and there are nice bars near Friedrichstrasse. But i've never been there myself ...

Good luck and i think you should have your title antihero

Jason Manley
January 5th, 2004, 07:47 PM
We are in the works for a rescheduling of and Official Conceptart.org European workshop. Any persons that did not recieve notice from Marko in a timely fashion in order to get refunds for airfare will recieve tuition in order to cover the difference in expenses. Andrew and I apologise and want to do our best to have an amazing time with you. We are going to be handling all this personally. It will be awesome!

I have spoken with Puddnhead Kevin Llewellyn
( www.puddnhead.com , www.kevart.com ) and he has confirmed his position as an instructor along with Andrew Jones and myself. We are also inviting another secret guest artist. you know him and love him. once i have his answer I will announce it. I personally guarantee this will be an absolutely amazing art experience for everyone.


I am meeting with andrew tonight and we will announce the curriculum and more information shortly.


again, our sincerest apologies for any inconvenience. we will be having a much improved and fantastic workshop very shortly.

We have three cities we are considering as "top of the list" for locations.

1 Amsterdam (Erik has kindly offered his assistance with this location)
2 Paris
3 Prague

please feel free to give any input on what you all would like to see happen or on the locations. I will make a new thread with all this information once all details are together this evening. one of the days will be spent drawing and analyzing the masterworks of the great museums....at least that is one of the ideas we are looking at. any thoughts?

we would like to do this within the next 45-90 days...allowing plenty of time for planning and guarantees. any input on appropriate dates would be appreciated....holidays, school breaks, etc...being considered as good dates for making time for art. :)


questions and input can be posted here. Please post all relevant discussion in the new thread below. Thank ya!

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=16294


jason manley
www.conceptart.org