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Form
February 8th, 2008, 02:02 AM
I AM NOT CURRENTLY RUNNING A MENTORING CLASS - THIS SECTION IS ARCHIVED AND MAY RETURN IN FUTURE
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I am currently finalising the way the second class will run. Its almost decided upon and I have a rough time frame in mind. Here are the requirements that students must meet, and what to send me through for the application.

Requirements:

- All students must be familiar with the digital painting environment. Traditional tasks will be catered for and there will be opportunity to do a lot of traditional media work, however some tasks will be digital-specific, so this is a requirement.

- Teaching will be conducted in Photoshop. I will not be catering for people who only use Painter (due to my own inexperience with the Painter program).

- You MUST be available to do the work, which will take you a minimum of 5 -10 hours per week, from February 25 to 9 May. The class MAY run longer. If you are not able to keep this commitment there are several fundementals classes on CA that allow casual drop in attendance. This class requires your commitment. Please don't let the other students down!

- You must have a serious commitment to improving your environment painting. This is not a general painting course, nor is it to be used as a 'motivator' to make yourself do more work. It is for people who have a specific goal and require the knowledge to reach it.

- You must be willing to work in small groups with other class members.

- You must be at least 16 years of age.

What to do to apply:

To apply for class 2 please make sure you are clear on the above requirements, then send me an EMAIL - to: form_n_focus@hotmail.com - with the following information:

1. A selection of your 5 best paintings. You may either attach 5 files to your email, or link to a portfolio, however if it is a website portfolio i will look only at the 'finished work' or equivalent section.

2. A brief explanation of yourself - things like age, where you are from, about your own art practise - whatever you want.

3. A CLEAR statement of your goal. Your intention is important and having a concrete goal improves your chances of producing good work for the class.

4. Finally, include any relevant experience - any education you have had before, be it college, workshops, online classes and so on.

Please note that all current class members, and people who have PM'd or emailed me already will need to do so again with the new information. Very much look forward to hearing from you all!

Any questions not relating to application you can post here :)
Adam

*edit:* i will not be waiting for an equal consideration date. If the class fills up tomorrow, it fills up. Don't hesitate and get your work in now :P
*edit2:* you do not need to have participated in any way with the previous class to be considered eligable for this one.

robmorfin
February 8th, 2008, 02:57 AM
Info submitted.

~Faust~
February 8th, 2008, 07:42 AM
application sent

Gundersen
February 8th, 2008, 11:52 AM
I dont think you need to post when you have sendt the application guys ;)

hehe

btw it says we can ask anything here except about the application:

Are you straight Adam ? mohahaha (Evil laughter)

robmorfin
February 8th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Just want to make sure he knows that I sent it in case he doesn't get the email.

By the way, Gund, I can see you on the Messenger but yesterday I tried sending you 2 emails at different times and i got a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)", so as you can see sometimes emails are not that reliable.

cheers.

Toxdel
February 8th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Sent my application.

-I realize I don't have to post it here but somehow I thought it would be good to anyway.

jodali
February 8th, 2008, 06:33 PM
sent.

Earendil
February 8th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Sent.

Everyone else is doing it.:mittenbop:

Form
February 9th, 2008, 12:47 AM
sent.

Form
February 9th, 2008, 12:48 AM
huh??

Earendil
February 9th, 2008, 01:51 AM
Lol.

:drinkup:

Jake Kobrin
February 9th, 2008, 02:05 AM
What's with the age limit dude? So not cool.

Gundersen
February 9th, 2008, 03:19 AM
Just want to make sure he knows that I sent it in case he doesn't get the email.

By the way, Gund, I can see you on the Messenger but yesterday I tried sending you 2 emails at different times and i got a "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)", so as you can see sometimes emails are not that reliable.

cheers.

Rob my email is not my msn mail, its tgunders @ gmail.com (without the spaces)

Form
February 9th, 2008, 05:18 AM
Jake: for personal reasons, I don't want to get involved in influencing the education or career path of someone under the age of 16 - it is not my place.

Killroy
February 11th, 2008, 09:38 AM
Hey I sent my app a couple days ago, just wondering if it had been received yet. I don't mean to pester I just want to make sure in case it didn't go through for some reason or another.

Jonish
February 11th, 2008, 12:27 PM
*sent*
Uh-oh, yummy. *drools*
---Zziiiip!
Yay, sorry... That was... my little brother! *grins*

Toxdel
February 11th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Yea I was also wondering the same thing Killroy was wondering. Any chance you could let us know form?

robmorfin
February 11th, 2008, 06:35 PM
Sent 5 more times, hehehehe

JK.

seansea
February 11th, 2008, 09:01 PM
sent.

Form
February 12th, 2008, 04:02 AM
sorry everyone I don't know your real names and I havnt opened the applications yet, I have just been moving them to a folder to make the decision after my new teaching gig (which is tomorrow). So far I have recieved apps from:

Chauncey Pierce
3ex
Joe Wilson
Burnee A
Annelaure Debeuret (possibly the coolest name I've ever heard - bonus points)
Len White
John L
Taylor Clutter
Luke S.
Milo Christense
Juxsen Chamling
Ulrich
Thomas Gundersen
Arvid Torres
Roberto Morfin
Johannes Voss

If your name isnt there try sending it through again. Cheerios!

Cam Sykes
February 12th, 2008, 04:30 AM
Hey m8, sent you an email. Thanks.

iwantjelly
February 12th, 2008, 06:04 AM
Annelaure Debeuret (possibly the coolest name I've ever heard - bonus points)

Oups, sorry but I forgot to log out and sent my application with my girlfriend's mail address... Her name is Anne-Laure Debeuret, which I agree to be really cool. My name is Jean-Yves Coulaud, maybe I won't have the bonus points but at least it's my real name...

And I'm still applying !

Killroy
February 12th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Thanks for the conformation.

Earendil
February 12th, 2008, 01:47 PM
Oups, sorry but I forgot to log out and sent my application with my girlfriend's mail address... Her name is Anne-Laure Debeuret, which I agree to be really cool. My name is Jean-Yves Coulaud, maybe I won't have the bonus points but at least it's my real name...

And I'm still applying !

I still think it's cool. Gonna learn French one of these days...

Toxdel
February 12th, 2008, 03:08 PM
yea thanks for the confirmation bro, I can't wait to start.

Gundersen
February 12th, 2008, 04:06 PM
yea thanks for the confirmation bro, I can't wait to start.

If your one of the lucky few you mean ;)

Dished
February 12th, 2008, 06:49 PM
sent just a few hours ago! :D *crosses fingers*

seansea
February 13th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Thank you for the confirmation.
Chauncey aka Seansea

Mat Kaminski
February 13th, 2008, 02:24 AM
Hope it goes through, sent it just a little while ago :0

Form
February 13th, 2008, 08:08 AM
yeah just to confirm - the fact I got your email doesn't mean you are in the class. I have recieved close to 30 apps now, which is way more than I can take on
but keep sending those apps, for now, i will be getting this rolling like a siege tank pronto!

J Wilson
February 13th, 2008, 08:36 AM
When you make your decisions will you be emailing, or should we keep checking this thread?

Jonish
February 13th, 2008, 10:38 AM
I'm sure that checking this won't hurt you :-)

Gundersen
February 13th, 2008, 12:07 PM
and i guess if your active its no problem to check a thread :) hehe

Earendil
February 13th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Rolling like a SIEGE TAAAAANK!

PROceedin' :P

Toxdel
February 14th, 2008, 12:44 PM
If your one of the lucky few you mean ;)
precisely, oooooo I hope I get in.

dognamedblue
February 14th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Adam

what if you don't have any "painting" in photoshop?
I have just finished 3 years at college but this kind of use for photoshop would not even be considered - only photographs
I do consider myself a "power user" - this is something that would greatly interest me as 3 years ago I was contributing to the DSG and was heading towards environments, until college got in the way
thanks in advance
andy.

Gundersen
February 16th, 2008, 05:06 AM
I guess thats like applying to work in a newspaper as a journalist, and tell them you have read alot of newspapers but never written anything.

Send him an application and see what happends

Mac Imagery
February 16th, 2008, 07:22 PM
info sent

Mat Kaminski
February 17th, 2008, 01:16 AM
LoL, for some odd reason I check this as much as I prolly would an application result for college lol!

algenpfleger
February 17th, 2008, 01:40 AM
Same here :D

Toxdel
February 17th, 2008, 05:51 PM
heh, me also

Form
February 18th, 2008, 12:03 AM
me too!!

i have had a chance today to look at the applications. Sit tight, results in the next 2 days. (Class acceptance)

Mat Kaminski
February 18th, 2008, 01:07 AM
OH NOOSS!!! The results!!

I'm skeered I'm not in lol!

Ergghhhh...
Maybe we could just pretend the results aren't in yet, so that way we all assume we're in ;D

Jonish
February 18th, 2008, 10:58 AM
I'm silently watching this topic from shadows of banana trees, don't feel safe, I'm still here, watching your necks with machete in my right hand :-)

Gundersen
February 18th, 2008, 11:06 AM
I'm silently watching this topic from shadows of banana trees, don't feel safe, I'm still here, watching your necks with machete in my right hand :-)

last time i checked there was a lack of banana trees in the republic ;)

Jonish
February 18th, 2008, 11:23 AM
*surprised leaves computer and machete on a table, and goes ask his daddy, if we have a banana tree here in central europe*

Yay, we don't have any. But we have pineapples, mango and some other tropical trees here... Or I can hide somewhere else :-)

robmorfin
February 18th, 2008, 12:11 PM
But we have pineapples, mango and some other tropical trees here...

Pineapple trees?, I don't think so, need to ask your daddy again. hehe

J Wilson
February 18th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Cool, results soon!

Jonish
February 18th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Rob, we really planted one into box, but of course, it's just a little bastard, we have to wait few years to have little pineapples :-P

robmorfin
February 18th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Jonish, the pineapple plant is a herbaceous perennial plant, not a tree. although you can still hide behind it laying down on the floor. hehe.

Form
February 19th, 2008, 02:50 AM
Ok here is the list of accepted students:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
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9.
10.

Form
February 19th, 2008, 02:50 AM
haha! PSYCHE.

Mat Kaminski
February 19th, 2008, 03:20 AM
In the words of Charlie Brown:

"AUUUGGGHHHHHHH!!!!"



...I'm starting to think Form is such a tease ;p

Form
February 19th, 2008, 03:32 AM
ok I have decided on the final class. There will be ten students for this intake. Please read the feedback below the class list. If you have any serious concerns, feel free to shoot me an email. Im bulletproof baby!

In no particular order:

1. Daldbaatar
2. Jean Yves / Iwantjelly
3. Joe Wilson
4. Luke / Earendil
5. Marcus / Lez
6. Milo Christensen
7. Roberto Morfin
8. Taylor Clutter
9. Ulrich Faust
10. Thomas Gundersen

Reserves:

1. Dawn Carlos
2. John L

General feedback:

I got approximately 40 applications. Around 15 of these were discarded for irrelevance, it seemed some people didnt understand quite what was going on. The choice between the remaining 25 was a tough one. Several people had nice work but had no environment samples. Together with the people who had no environment-based goals, these were the next to go.

The remainder were, I felt, people who would benefit more from improving fundemental skills (such as those in the 'peer project' thread), and not quite ready to be specialising in one focus area. It was still a tough call and there were a few of you who I would have liked to put in but couldnt. I was originally going to do 5 people only, but i ended up increasing it to 10 because the margin was so narrow.

The 2 reserves are there in case someone drops out. They are encouraged to follow along, but its up to you. If people drop out and the reserves dont want to be included, I will not be adding anyone new.

Thanks to everyone for applying and welcome to you guys who made it in, I look forward to working with you. I have to wrap up an article for ImagineFX by sunday, more information on the class will go up then.

Thanks again to everyone.
Adam

Gundersen
February 19th, 2008, 07:03 AM
Thanks for the invite Adam. Look forward to it. If we had all lived in the same town id taken you out for a beer to get known, but sadly i cant do that. So feel free to add me to msn, but be warned i can be concidered mean and brutal :P Rob will sign that ;) hehe

Earendil
February 19th, 2008, 07:55 AM
Excellent! Looking forward to working and learning with everyone! :drinkup:

chaosrocks
February 19th, 2008, 08:50 AM
good luck to all of you. We all know form is a hard task master. (I didn't apply as I have work that would interfere at the moment) But be assured I will follow your progress with avid interest

crx

algenpfleger
February 19th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Harrrr, didn't make it. But I'll be lurking.

~Faust~
February 19th, 2008, 11:27 AM
Woot! It feels like I won something for the first time hehe. Pretty amazed considering the other turnouts

Jonish
February 19th, 2008, 11:31 AM
Yay, then I hope that you will open that Lurker's thread.

Good luck to all of you, draw some pineapple-tree enviros for me please :-))

Mat Kaminski
February 19th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Yeah, draw some for me too ;)

Like last time, I'll be lurking, you can count on it. Open that Lurker thread!! :D

J Wilson
February 19th, 2008, 03:08 PM
Excellent, thank you for the invite! I'm excited to see how much I can learn. I'm very much looking forward to getting started!

-Joe Wilson

Dished
February 19th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Sweeeeeeeeet! :D Thanks! :party:

Toxdel
February 19th, 2008, 03:31 PM
WOOT, I'm in yay! Congrats also to my fellow students. Can't wait to start the class...

Lez
February 19th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Woah! this made my day a lot brighter :)

Cheers!

algenpfleger
February 19th, 2008, 05:24 PM
All you lucky guys! Make sure you appreciate this, because I'll kick your butt as soon as you start slacking :D

robmorfin
February 19th, 2008, 05:27 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!

Thanks Adam.

So feel free to add me to msn, but be warned i can be concidered mean and brutal :P Rob will sign that ;) hehe

don't worry about Gundy, he is harmless :teeth:

draw some pineapple-tree enviros for me please :-))

will do on the tree of the week section.

Sorry for all the ones that couldn't make it, follow up on the Lurker's posts, maybe this time we can make a better job posting in there with you.

robmorfin
February 19th, 2008, 05:29 PM
All you lucky guys! Make sure you appreciate this, because I'll kick your butt as soon as you start slacking :D

Algen, too bad you couldn't make it, you did a great effort in few days on the lurkers posts, too bad.

arttorney
February 19th, 2008, 07:29 PM
It's been fascinating to watch from outside. Congrats to the entering class. Work hard.

Killroy
February 19th, 2008, 08:29 PM
Woohoo! Thanks a bunch! I'm so excited to get started. =D

-Milo

algenpfleger
February 20th, 2008, 02:40 AM
Algen, too bad you couldn't make it, you did a great effort in few days on the lurkers posts, too bad.

Haha yeah, seems motivation wasn't relevant in the selection. But I'll lurk! So you guys better give it your all! :D

chaosrocks
February 20th, 2008, 09:51 AM
ah just fir future reference Gundy is a right bastard. but we love him anyway
hope to see you all in EOW as you practice.....
crx

robmorfin
February 20th, 2008, 12:04 PM
hope to see you all in EOW as you practice.....
crx

See you around Chaos, we'll miss you in the class, too bad you couldn't apply.

Cheers.

Rob.

Earendil
February 20th, 2008, 05:33 PM
I have to wrap up an article for ImagineFX by sunday, more information on the class will go up then.


Which Sunday? :mittenbop:

I'll keep studying until then. :lifedrawing: Moar studies!

Gundersen
February 20th, 2008, 06:43 PM
this sunday. aka 24th

robmorfin
February 20th, 2008, 08:24 PM
this sunday. aka 24th

You mean and brutal Bastard!

JK, heheeh

daldbaatar
February 21st, 2008, 12:49 AM
Hallelujah...

Cam Sykes
February 21st, 2008, 03:07 AM
I'm glad I wasn't accepted. I barely have time anymore, I understimated my TAFE course workload and it has had me occupied 24/7. Wasn't even able to make the life drawing group on Monday because I had an assignment due the following day. Cheers Adam.

jodali
February 21st, 2008, 09:23 PM
Congratulations to all who made it. Its to bad that I didn't. oh well, at least I'm in the reserves.

ian081271
February 22nd, 2008, 08:25 AM
Hey Congrats averybody who made it in, I guess I will have to try one of the peer project thread I do need to do something I am determined...

Cheers
Ian:batgirl:

iwantjelly
February 25th, 2008, 07:00 AM
Great !

Sorry for the late answer, I was sick as hell these last days. Can't wait to start.

Toxdel
February 25th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Sooooo, when do we start? I'm getting antsy! Form said in the intro to this thread that it started today.

Gundersen
February 25th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Not to be a know it all, but he is still working on an article for ImagineFX. He will get us started as soon as he can :)

Earendil
February 25th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Why don't we work through some of Jens' color studies? Meat and potatoes. :yum:

Gundersen
February 25th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Why don't we work through some of Jens' color studies? Meat and potatoes. :yum:

I did some of them, they are in my sketchbook. Quite interesting to do it, but at the same time not sure if its the way i want to take my paintings ... :P

robmorfin
February 25th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Not to be a know it all,

No Gundy, you are just the kid that brings an apple for the teacher everyday.

heheehhehehe

Gundersen
February 25th, 2008, 04:50 PM
No Gundy, you are just the kid that brings an apple for the teacher everyday.

heheehhehehe

first of all not a kid any longer sadly

Secondly an apple is old school and dont work any longer

Earendil
February 25th, 2008, 04:53 PM
Mayhaps another offering of even greater value? :P

Earendil
February 25th, 2008, 06:13 PM
...

I feel a tingle! :D

Gundersen
February 26th, 2008, 02:21 AM
you spammed to get Level 6 gladiator :P hehehe

Form
February 27th, 2008, 02:19 AM
:D im just at uni teaching my class right now (shh!!!) will be writing up the intro and so on to put up for you all tomorrow :)

Looking forward to it!

Gundersen
February 27th, 2008, 02:42 AM
Looking forward to it!

Second that

iwantjelly
February 27th, 2008, 03:50 AM
Excellent !

How could I express how grand is my motivation about this class ?
Maybe a couple of suggestive onomatopoeias would do the trick :

Woot ! .... Fazang !!!

~Faust~
February 27th, 2008, 04:17 AM
Tomorrow Australian time? I am twitching right now out of 10% alcohol withdrawal and 90% excitement!

algenpfleger
February 27th, 2008, 05:22 AM
just don't forget to open that lurker's thread buddy :D

Jonish
February 27th, 2008, 05:26 PM
Yes please, we need a shelter to lurk there. :-)

Jonish
February 29th, 2008, 05:49 PM
For future lurkers:
I'm sure that you already saw that wonderful roleplaying initial part of course. So I asked Form about Lurker's thread and he confirmed, that we will get one in a week or so.

I hope that this is the best way how to let you, lurkers know, so patience and prepare you pencils or whatever you use, to hard work! Being lurker doesn't mean being slacker! :-)

Form
March 1st, 2008, 08:20 PM
Lurkers will be 'involved' this time around. Stay tuned....

the umbrella man
March 17th, 2008, 02:18 AM
I just sent my app. Really hoping I make it on because lord knows I need it :)

Gundersen
March 17th, 2008, 07:34 AM
hehehehe your funny

Skouja
October 17th, 2008, 08:49 AM
sent ^^

angelo cordon
January 13th, 2010, 08:56 PM
Is this still going on? I realize the post dates are from 2008 but I never saw class 2? Did I miss something?