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ItalianHorsey
February 2nd, 2008, 08:49 PM
I hope this is what to do haha...I'm 15 and i want some good critiques =P dont be too harsh but be good to me and give me some advice =] Ugh, I'm sorry, some of them are bad quality =/ some of the pencils i use arent showing up good

Lalilulelo
February 2nd, 2008, 08:51 PM
I can't see any art.

ItalianHorsey
February 2nd, 2008, 09:08 PM
i scanned it into my computer...and then i clicked the thing that says insert image and copied the url thingy....lol, how do you do it then?

Ciaran
February 2nd, 2008, 09:15 PM
So you are trying to upload from your computer? If so, don't copy any url into the attachment manager. You need to hit the browse button and find the picture on your computer.

You only use the url if the image is stored on a site somewhere.

ItalianHorsey
February 2nd, 2008, 09:20 PM
im trying that now...but it keeps saying its too big and im cropping it to nothing..im so frustrated lol

Clodioz
February 2nd, 2008, 09:49 PM
Hey welcome to the sb zooone!
in the first one I see some pretty eyes and nice shading,,
just, keep posting and youll see progress ;)

cheers!

ItalianHorsey
February 2nd, 2008, 10:01 PM
Clodioz - Thanks, but the first pic i used all reference on =/

ItalianHorsey
February 2nd, 2008, 10:53 PM
These are a bit older...But I feel they are good enough to show =] (except the Geisha in the first pic, im planning on painting her)

ItalianHorsey
February 3rd, 2008, 03:35 AM
Comments/critiques please =/

dadushin
February 3rd, 2008, 03:40 AM
hey man nice to see you're doing studies
right now some of your lines are looking a little scratchy to me, i say this alot of people, you use a lot of little lines to describe something that could be described with one, its mostly in your portraits
looks like you are still developing nicely though, that lime is pretty tight
anyways keep practicing and updating man!

ItalianHorsey
February 3rd, 2008, 11:58 AM
Comment please =D

ItalianHorsey
February 3rd, 2008, 09:00 PM
Hmmm...There's a blind contour SP, semi-blind contour SP, normal SP, value study of my deodorant, and a random sketch page...Critiques and comments are welcome!

ItalianHorsey
February 4th, 2008, 08:49 PM
Here's some self portraits that I did tonight...all different kinds...Some kind of boost in ego or critques or anything would be nice, i know my stuff isnt amazing...but something would be nice =] .........One of the self portraits is in red and it sucks hahaha, but i am just going to show you the bad ones too...I tried to do it at a weird angle in front of the mirror...and it didnt work out that well haha.

PaxDesigner
February 4th, 2008, 10:23 PM
Good stuff. Try to stay away from cartooning at this stage of the game, all it does is ruin your sense of proportion. I'm learning this the hard way! Keep it up man and you'll improve immensely.

l0stinth0ughts
February 4th, 2008, 10:59 PM
Shading, You need to work on. The eyes give it depth and alot less like marbles. from the first pair of eyes, to the last one posted, your getting there by adding lines inside the iris.

Counterculture
February 4th, 2008, 11:03 PM
I Would Have to Agree With Pax, Focus On You Realism And Attention to Detail, Personally I’m Stuck With Lots Of Detail And Just About No Sense Of Proportion Or Anatomy Which Is Hard Rut To Overcome. Stick With It, And Very Nice Work

ItalianHorsey
February 5th, 2008, 03:54 PM
If I don't do any of the cartoony stuff I will get bored...it's just stuff in between to keep me going...i'm not focusing on that or anything...but thanks for commenting =D

iambanana
February 5th, 2008, 03:59 PM
You got some nice sketches there, but I have to agree on the detailing part, it will make your stuff more interesting to study.

ItalianHorsey
February 7th, 2008, 06:21 PM
Sorry for the delay, I try to post at least one a day....C and C much appreciated =]

ItalianHorsey
February 8th, 2008, 06:37 PM
Any comments/critiques or some tips on what I should work on? Somethin?

ItalianHorsey
February 9th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Something I just finished...Done in colored pencils...Comments/Critiques/tips are all welcome, anything that will help me improve =]

geo5
February 10th, 2008, 06:35 AM
If you want more comments you have to say thanks when you get them and give comments back on their threads. Try posting comments on some of your favorite artists threads. They may take a peek in and give you feedback.
Try participating in the Daily Sketchbook or check out the Mentoring area.
Focusing primarily on one thing at a time will help you see more improvement.

geo5
February 10th, 2008, 07:37 AM
You like hands? Try drawing these hands. Great reference for anatomy.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/historicalanatomies/bidloo_home.html

ItalianHorsey
February 10th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Thanks Uncle G =P Yeah, i'll try to draw some stuff from that site and post on other peoples

Weavel
February 10th, 2008, 04:07 PM
I really like your selfportraits, you can really see the progress you make. When you make a portrait spend first some time looking to all shapes in the face. And then try to get it on the paper, never guess but try always to get the shape right. And watch for the proportions of the head. The distance between your eyes and your nose has to be right otherwise it won't look as yourself. Take your time for it and you soon will see a lot of progress ;)

SoulBeaver
February 10th, 2008, 05:21 PM
Yesh, what they say :D Thanks for commenting btw xD

So critique! Can't ever go without that! Take more time for the portraits. The cartoon stuff looks awesome, but learn all the basics first, boring or not xD

So I noticed you do some of the mistakes I often do which is making the eyes different to one another. In most cases the eyes don't look very identical. You get close though, so you'll get it xD The lips seem a bit big, but that may just be you, I don't know how you look except for the portraits xD

You might want to draw a line to align your facial features. It's what I do to make sure that eyes, nose, and lips are all pointing in the same direction. Otherwise, nice start and by the time you're my age you'll be hella far advanced :D

ItalianHorsey
February 10th, 2008, 09:02 PM
OK, here's some more stuffy..The portrait is of my best friend.
Weavel - Thanks for the comment. =]
Soul - Thanks for the comment. My best friend just told me that today-that I don't draw the eyes the same. Yeah, my lips are kinda big..You think I should upload a picture of me so people can critique better on my facial features?

vann12
February 10th, 2008, 09:33 PM
i like the cartoons and don't stop making them if you don't want to, but spend more time on your realism. Good luck

Fvallejo
February 11th, 2008, 07:19 AM
real good that you're doing studies....do some more. Always have your sketchbook with you and knock out some sketches of all the people around you....with clean non-scratchy lines. At this point of the game for you it is hard to do stuff from out of your head, until you get the anatomy knowledge to do so. So draw as much from life, and as you get more confident from that your imaginative drawings will improve.

best of luck!

ajvenema
February 11th, 2008, 07:40 AM
dude! u have a lot of dedication! good studying, ur trying various things, very good! and ure only 15! keep sketching every day;)
one thing u really shouldnt do is those Thick lines in your faces, loook very close at a face and ull see there are no such lines:P its just a change in value. Faces are planes, not lines:P keep it up!

ItalianHorsey
February 11th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Fvallejo - Thanks, I'll do more studies and draw from life as much as I can =]
Ajvenema - Thanks, on this portrait I tried to not make any lines, I think I did that well...It's just off on everything else haha.
Eh, I just drew my best friend and it doesn't really look like her, I suck at profiles. I am going to draw her in just a contour so i can get the shapes right and not worry about the shadows..

Grimey
February 11th, 2008, 02:47 PM
try focusing a little less on line and a little more on form.
also, be sure to use plenty of reference at this stage, and just practice!

algenpfleger
February 11th, 2008, 03:57 PM
hahaha oh my god youre awesome, i wish i would have started at 15!
loving your dedication, the other guys already said the important stuff, listen to that, draw from life and do studies, keep going and going, never give up, and you will kick every ass in sight in a few years!

DreadRok
February 13th, 2008, 02:12 PM
wow, your work is showing improvement. i like that your expirementing with lines and tones, keep it upit can really add that flavor to your art once you start to get it. (i still dont have it =/)
one thing i might recommend is keep your initial drawing very light and then come back over it with more detail. right now it looks like your using the same pressure alot. also when rendering, make the strokes go with the form. in the above piece all your strokes are going in the same direction. try to keep that in mind and it will help you realize the forms better also.

keeo it up, your doing much better than i was at your age.

Sendak
February 14th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook and leaving comment.

First off, its really cool that you stated your age in your first post. A lot of people don't seem to like to do that, but the fact is that it does make a difference as to how most of us will make judgment calls. That said, I think your doing extremely well. I haven't read all the other posts so forgive me if I repeat someone else here.

The first thing I noticed is that your figure proportions are pretty darn good. Your hands are fantastic. I definitely couldn't do that at your age. Faces too. I was in my late 20s before I was comfortable drawing faces. Now I make most of my living doing that (caricature). Your female figures look a little masculine; you draw them like you would draw a guy, with narrow hips and wide shoulders. This is common. Most guys are used to drawing guys and most girls are used to drawing girls. We all draw what we relate to. You need to break out of that, and just look at the basic shapes. A woman's shoulders and ribcage are going to be much narrower than the way you draw them (unless they are a fitness pro or female body builder), and their hips will be much wider.

Other than that, I think you're on the right track. Just keep at it. Draw every day, even if its just a few minutes a day, and you'll be a badass before you know it.

ItalianHorsey
February 14th, 2008, 03:47 PM
stonercurly - I'll try to keep that in mind. Thanks! =]
algenpfleger - Thanks man!
DreadRok - Thank you! I'll try to keep that in mind also.
Sendak - Thanks so much! And you didn't repeat anyone else on anything I don't think. =P

First off - THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING! And sorry everyone...I've been at my friend's house until late the past few days so I couldn't scan anything cuz I use my sister's scanner and she goes to bed early and I haven't been drawing as much. Right now I'm at my friend's but when I get home I will scan some stuff tonight.

ItalianHorsey
February 15th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Finally I get to scan! I practiced a billion circles just to loosen up and practice, but I didn't think it was that important to scan. I brought home some stuff from art class and I'll try to get it on here later.

ItalianHorsey
February 15th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Wooooooooooooo! Okay, here's the stuff from art class...I had to take pictures of it cuz they were too big for the scanner. The second rock drawing is the most recent. I think it looks much better than the first rock drawing..and the cow bone, which is horrible. The one with random doodles was just a waste of a week that we sat in class and doodled/talked. The abstract flower is supposed to be in the style of Georgia O'Keeffe - it was a homework assignment. Comments and critiques are always welcome!

SoulBeaver
February 16th, 2008, 01:40 PM
Wassup again :D Dropping by again xD Hm...what to say. The shading is really nice, and the comic stuff seems really good xD The rocks don't really look like rocks. At least I have a little qualm with their smooth surface. Did your teacher polish them to a shine and remove any rough surface? D:

I like the colors on the flower, and the cow bone...that was a bone? xD

Anyway, good to see you practicing still. Nevar quit and the powar shall be all yours! Muahahahahahahahaaa! ;D

we4er
February 16th, 2008, 02:27 PM
nice studies:))) your last picture is very nice i like it:)))

ItalianHorsey
February 16th, 2008, 02:44 PM
SoulBeaver - Thanks, she doesn't want us to do detail, she wants us to refine our form before we bother ourselves with detail and she spray painted the rocks white. Yes, that's a bone haha, it was at a weird angle so yeah, it doesn't really look like a bone - I hate it anyways.
we4er - Thanks...My mom is going to frame it haha.

scottmcd
February 16th, 2008, 07:18 PM
Hey there. Thanks for stopping by my sb. Yours looks very nice. Regardless of age, you're doing the right kind of studying and practicing. I've found the Burne Hogarth approach to figure drawing quite helpful - you should check out "Dynamic Figure Drawing" if you haven't already.

Keep it up! :medusachow:

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone! Here's some crap I did today. Critiques and comments are welcome!

AgentAlpha
February 17th, 2008, 01:10 PM
Nice sketches in the whole thread! I like especially the shadings you did in the drawing from the previous post .:)You got the talent and all you should do now is to practice more.

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 01:13 PM
Thanks AgentAlpha =P

Cupelli
February 17th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Nice sketch book. You do alot of drawing from life, which is awesome. I hope to see more from you soon.

~Cupelli

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Thank you Cupelli. You will see more of me!!! I promise. =D

l0stinth0ughts
February 17th, 2008, 04:20 PM
hey man your really progressing, still need to work on those contour lines and shading. keep posting and ill keep checkin in on you. :rocker:

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Lostinthoughts - Thank you for commenting.

My shower! Sorry that it's sideways.

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 07:33 PM
OK, this is the last post for the night. It's just two studies from my anatomy book. Comments and critiques are appreciated, like always.

lincoln.renall
February 17th, 2008, 09:25 PM
nice to see a progression of life studies there.......particularly like some of those early eye studies and the lemon, is cool too. keep at it.
I only wish i knew about concept art when i was 15, I would be soooo much better by now.....the key is practice as they say....not that im any expert.....yet :-)

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Thanks for the comment man. =] I need to do more studies! I like want to sit down and do studies all day...but I'm not that focused haha.

Counterculture
February 17th, 2008, 09:52 PM
Very nice work, keep up the studies and it will take you as far as you'll let it. I like the life drawings, i need to work alot on mine. Thanks for the inspiration!

ItalianHorsey
February 17th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Thank you! I never thought I could inspire anyone haha.

HillZ
February 17th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Hey thanks for the comment man :-)

Yer youve improved so much from the start, and like everybody else said just do more studies and never give up. Ill be checkin up on you so dont dissapoint me lol

ItalianHorsey
February 18th, 2008, 09:26 AM
Thank you Hillz. Haha, I won't disappoint you. I hope. =P

amoolie
February 18th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Nice eye studies :) Eyes are one of those things I draw over and over again, too. I like some of the line on your last figure study.

Hyeah; I'm not too qualified to critique or anything. :P Just keep at it I guess, and when you shade stuff keep the "form" of the subject in mind.

Farsh
February 18th, 2008, 10:10 AM
I shoulda done this when I was 15. I coulda sketched. I coulda been an artist, instead of a bum, which is what I am. :(

Excellent start Tony, your anatomy studies are coming along. Keep up the good work and you'll go far! Just remember to keep your lines solid - draw exactly where you mean for your strokes to fall instead of scratching it out. (I think we all face this problem at some time). Also, you might also want to try some of the loomis books, or have a look at this - http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm

Giorge
February 18th, 2008, 10:17 AM
I think that your work could get a faster pace if you break your drawing into geometrical shapes , try to construct a character geometrical , and make him stand [ Up or down] , so you can feel that his standing , when your are satisfied with the progress you can leep to the next step , true form.

I_Gar
February 19th, 2008, 09:39 AM
hey man you have some pretty good starts to everything, oh and thanks for the feedback on my first post. You should try checking out characterdesigns.com on the bottom of the page their are tutorials by Chris Chen, you should check them out you might like them.

Suira
February 19th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Hey! thx 4 dropping by my sketchbook ^^

Well, i cheked out yours and it obvious there's a very good progres on your technique, but there's still some things you can try to improve ( I'm not a pro at all, but some ideas might be usefull to you).


First, try to take the time the drawings needs, I mean, quickies are always good , but some drawings need more time to be well done. Drawings "tell" us what they need , some of them need a lot of time, some of them need more rendering or detail , you know...

Other thing, I've seen an improvement on your line, but , don't forget to do a lot of work to still mastering it, because it's very important, adn...well, draw from life, it's the best to pass to a better level when you want to draw from your mind.

Last thing....Draw millions of sketches!! ^^

Well, I shut my mouth up and go, I'll becheking ya, c u ;)

johanson
February 20th, 2008, 12:45 AM
Good book you’ve got going here. I can already see you coming along. Something I wish I had starting doing WAY sooner in my drawing career is to not only observe what something looks like when I’m drawing it but also check out why it looks that way so I can draw something like it later out of my head. Just a thought. Keep rockin all those little studies!

snootchy
February 20th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Hey thnx for stopping by and commenting. Yea my digital stuff sucks a bunch but posting anyways to get better and crit harshly. My drawing is still lacking a lot and so taking some classes right now. You're right I do need to be more disciplined into doing more life studies, will work on that, thanks man.

I think for your age this is pretty good, i think more careful observation is needed in some of your sketches as to the tonal values in terms of the way the light hits the object and reflects different greyscale values. I don't have the link anymore but i think it was Ron Lemon's post on color theory over in the tutorial section, where he showed the color wheel side by side with a greyscale monochromatic wheel and I think that helps a lot in understanding when doing life studies (which is usually in color with differing shades).

Anyhow keep up the goodwork!

Sketchbook (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991&page=2)

Toxdel
February 20th, 2008, 03:13 AM
pretty good stuff you have here. Just keep practicing honing your eye. Always ask yourself when drawing something from life or drawing from ref: "Is what I just put down on paper really what I see in front of me?" Our minds tend to make things up which prevents us from drawing accurately. Instead of drawing an arm for example; draw the exact arm you see in-front of you, down to every curve. hope that makes sense.

I noticed you've mentioned your age a few times, while its good that your starting young don't make it affect your art. Don't let age become an excuse for anything, it should be the last thing on your mind. I've seen 13 year olds produce artwork that kicked the crud out of 30 somethings who were experienced themselves. The point is that you should be reaching for the very best you can do as you are, no matter how old.

anyway, those are my thoughts, hopefully they help in someway.

kidult
February 20th, 2008, 04:02 AM
Keep em coming dude. More practice makes for more better art! Just keep up with the studies and try go through artbooks or sign up for courses to help learn technique and skill.

ItalianHorsey
February 20th, 2008, 10:07 AM
Thank you all for commenting! ( Sorry, I don't have the time to thank you all individually - I'm still absorbing all of what you have said though =] )

I've realized that I've been trying to get everything so perfect and exact to excell as fast as I could and I lost having fun while doing it. So last night I was just drawing to have fun. It was a well needed break from all of this critical thinking stuff.

I'll get back on it though because I know that to do the fun stuff that I want I have to first learn all basics and master them - at least if I want the creative/fun stuff to come out looking good. Well I know you don't want to read anymore so here it is -

Rhett Harrison
February 21st, 2008, 04:51 PM
Hey man thanks for commenting.

I was a lazy fuck at your age, keep it up and you'll have a big advantage. Your foundation drawing is coming on great, it is so important. I'd say keep doodling as well though man (not at the expense of more serious practise though), as you say you've gotta have fun! I used to doodle alot in school and the representational stuff I draw now is full of little playful little tricks I used to do while I was scribbling.

Orenji13
February 21st, 2008, 05:38 PM
Posting here at your age is probably the best thing you can be doing, you work hard and such now and you'll be amazing by the time your in college!

My advice is really keep up the studies, specially if you can get a life drawing class. You MIGHT be able to get one at a local community college, unsure you can ask your art teachers about it. Try to use some more schemas and such. Otherwise draw often and use multiple refs. Also don't be scared to use perspective boxes to help with your still life drawings. I hope to see your progress in the future!

ItalianHorsey
February 27th, 2008, 11:15 AM
I'm sorry everyone...I have still been drawing but not posting and I can't post right now because I use my sister's scanner and she changed her password on her laptop. =/ I'll try to get some more in here as soon as possible! Sorry to let you down!

l0stinth0ughts
February 27th, 2008, 12:21 PM
i should slap you! jokin its all good man, you havent let us down you let yourself down, but we are still here to help, so keep posting man.

Toxdel
March 2nd, 2008, 10:43 PM
post em when ya got em man, we wanna see!!!

Warforce17
March 3rd, 2008, 12:20 AM
Hi. I think your works pays of and you get better.
Like this colored man.

Tips:
Just draw what you want when you want.
More I really dont want to say as a beginner. ;)

journeyman10
March 3rd, 2008, 12:52 AM
Its good to see your dedication and your desire to learn from others. Its quite admirable. My suggestion to you is to look at stuff. Burn a hole in it with your eyes if you have to. But look at it. It seems as though most of your lines are idealized lines. Lines you think are there but might not be. I like your blind contours. Focus on matching the speed your eye moves with that of your pencil. Its really tough but pays off.

More than anything, keep going. Best of luck and I hope to check back here next year and your so good you've got 15 stars or something crazy.

Werd.

ItalianHorsey
March 3rd, 2008, 02:55 PM
Thanks guys...I'm sorry bout not posting, I got a lot of stuff to put up here but my sister is being stubborn. She goes to bed really early cuz she has to wake up at like 3. I'll try to get some stuff on.

geo5
March 3rd, 2008, 07:56 PM
Tell Vic to get over it.
Copy drawings from your favorite masters.
Make drawings of great sculptures, etchings and paintings.
Anything that attracts you draw it. If you hear people talking about how great an artist is then go look them up. They're all worth looking at. The craft of a technical illustrator to the bizarre Surrealism of Dali are all inspiring.
When looking at the masters look at everything: Composition, Materials and Medium. Look at the Subject: What and why were they painting it? How does that relate to what you are drawing? Is it Story they are telling, a portrait to help pay for more canvas, a religious artifact, a cover for a video game? Start thinking about what you can do when you're a master. What story are you going to tell? We want to see it.

mimar sinan
March 4th, 2008, 03:32 PM
Really nice drawings. Your style is some different. Keep up the good work. Well done ! (:

Maria David
March 13th, 2008, 04:52 AM
Yeah, I would agree that you should do more realistic stuff but I find it so boring to do. xD But it really helps. Don't forget to doodle freely because that helps too and makes drawing fun. And drawing really should stay fun.

grundybug
March 13th, 2008, 05:15 AM
try drawing from life lots and lots it helped me so much, even if its just shapes of things with no detail just getting the shading right, try and copy all sorts of art, try to sketch from photos, use movies as ref maybe, the only way you will get better is by drawing more and more...oh and something that really helped me was drawing quickly and not taking too long on each line just do what you want and have fun with it...hope ive been of some help

im 15 aswell and i really want to improve...so drop by and give me some crits and stuff if u feel like it

MaryCarey
March 22nd, 2008, 12:56 PM
Exactly what Journeyman10 said- look at stuff. Learn to look, to really look then to draw what you see not what you think you see. Keep working on the self portraits- they were progressing and if you do self portraits all your life think of the record you will have of yourself by the time you are an old man. Go and pester your Art teacher at school, it's what they're paid for and get them to teach you how to draw properly, not the way they teach classes of thirty kids at a time. Show them that you're dedicated and willing to listen to advice and they will help you.

pantless_wanderer
March 23rd, 2008, 01:26 PM
The eyes in the first picture are really good. Like some have said you need to practice your observation skills, but you seem like a dedicated guy and that can take you far.

MyOrangeHat
March 29th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Your anatomy studies are looking good. Now go do more of them. They help sooooo much and I wish I had realized that at 15.
Keep posting. :)

ItalianHorsey
March 29th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Thank you all so much for the comments! It's really helpful stuff, I look at it time to time to remember what yall have said. =] But...my sister is about to move out so she has her stuff packed...So that means I have no way to scan. I'm moving into an apartment soon and my mom said we are going to get a computer, so I'll make sure to beg for a scanner. =D I have a lot of stuff that I've done since that last crappy portrait. Once I get the chance I will scan, but that doesn't mean I won't be drawing! =P

MyOrangeHat
March 29th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Do you have a digital camera? I dont' have a scanner either so I just use my digital camera to take pictures of my drawings and paintings. It's actually a lot easier than a scanner.

madhatter106
March 29th, 2008, 09:56 PM
Though it's good to do blind contour drawings, I always find them to be a means to the end - great for warmups and learning hand-eye, but I personally shy away from posting anything like that here. To me, it's an exercise in which the end result is not the most important thing, it's the process/journey getting there...

I'd echo the recommendations of a few people here: life drawing (be it naked people, clothed people hanging out at Starbucks, the cat asleep at the foot of the bed, whatever) is essential - leaf through some anatomy books at the bookstore and pick one that you think you could learn from, and set to work learning the human figure. (People recommend Hogarth, Bridgman, Loomis, etc. I think some are even available online, too.)

I think someone in an earlier post commented on "scratchy line," which I'd recommend avoiding as well - I'm a big believer in trying to keep the pencil against the paper as much as possible in the early stages of a drawing. In other words, don't draw a half inch line, lift the pencil, back up a quarter inch and draw another half inch...keep the pencil against the paper for the full length of the line, even if the line is wrong - you can always go back and tweak it with a second line, and keep working to "find" it correctly. (This works with a harder pencil, like a 2H or a 3H, or if you have a very light touch, and thus can "build up" a line in that manner.) Use the fluidity that you see in your blind contours, and transfer it to your other drawings in this manner...

Don't be afraid of line weight, too - especially in a contour line drawing, where you're mainly worried about form and outline, and less on shading and light...thicker lines vs. thinner lines, darker lines vs. lighter lines. A lot of people on here will say "work on shading" to drawings that are obviously contour line studies, but do mix things up - do value studies as well as contour studies...

I'm not a fan of "bic pen" drawings - there's one early in this thread, and it always makes me think of doodling in notebooks in high school. But that's just a personal preference.

Just draw a lot - draw every day. And I'd avoid posting asking for comments, especially if there are no drawings attached to the posts - the comments will come, as long as the drawings are continually posted and submitted here. The more stuff you post, the more improvements you make, the more people will wander in here and comment/critique...

Best of luck, get that scanner soon :)

ItalianHorsey
March 29th, 2008, 10:59 PM
MyOrangeHat - I don't have a camera =/ other than my phone haha and that wouldn't work out.

MadHatter - Thanks for takin the time to say all of that dude. Yeah, I don't do that scratchy line thing anymore really. I hate when people do that. I usually do it on rounded things, but now I am workin on it so if I noticed i do the scratchy line i erase it and do a clean line. The rest of what you said I really already know. i will scan once i can =P

madhatter106
March 30th, 2008, 01:57 PM
The rest of what you said I really already know.

Playing Devil's Advocate here - when I read something like that as a response in someone's sketchbook, I'd be less inclined to post a comment or a critique for that person, since they might "already know" it. Just a thought...

ItalianHorsey
April 1st, 2008, 04:58 PM
Haha, well i mean i take all of what you said into consideration seems how other people tell me things that are alike to what you have said. im not tryin to seem like a know it all or anything. =P i still want comments haha.

Zorcron
June 23rd, 2009, 01:01 AM
hey man ! i love the things you were said
were from art class definatly some cool colors going on

would do lots of still life even if you dont like a lot of it its insanely good practice

work on some composition too its good to drill some of the aspects in to your head early in the game
even if its as simple as drawing cubes on a grid till they look pleasing ^ ^its important to build that
intuitive sense so you arent just drawing somthing on paper all the time as a static object , a lot of the times
its better to have somthing in it's eviroment or to use the image as a whole not just the subject

i would also try to stray from (aiming towards somthing just to get comments or more pageviews ect ) even
things like "ive got to do this so i can post it on my CA SB " its not healthy i find its nice this place is here
but first things first you want to develop as an artist and not "win the comment game" or what ever that
being said this is an amazing place for feedback and conversation (may sound harsh but ive seen it happen a lot espicially that attitude seems to take place a lot on Deviatart as well )

hope what i said makes much sense its pretty late here :(

keep up the fight! you have definatly
got something worth while so keep em coming

just my 2 cents :)

Wooli
June 27th, 2009, 02:52 PM
Hello :)

First of all, your semi/blind contours are good. When I did those, they came our terrible. I also like your color choices and your fun doodles.

I don't think you push the darks, midtones too much in your drawings (especially in your self portraits; it's very evident there.) Also, when you are shading, you should go with the flow of the face. In your self portraits, you always use diagonal lines to do your shading, but parts of the face are not diagonal--some are curved, triangle shaped, etc. So, what I think you need to work on is your shading and putting the darks and different shades of midtones in there. :)

n00dles
March 6th, 2010, 10:20 AM
Hey :)

I have to say, this is a pretty neat sketchbook and it looks like your are doing the right studies. I love your coloured pieces! Those blind contours are enjoyable to look at, the progress is visible :)

What you might try to do when doing studies is applying them. Lets say you've drawn a face, try to draw the same face with different lighting or from a slightly different angle. This will make learning faster :)

Hope to see your dropping by^^!

Puffynose
May 3rd, 2010, 08:12 AM
Good stuffs, good shadings and good colors.. Post more colored things! i thought i started late when i started at 15 (still 15) but good thing people from here said its a good start! yay for us!