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Scott Robertson
September 19th, 2003, 05:59 PM
Here is one I would like to hear some ideas on how I can add that something special.


http://www.drawthrough.com/ftp/night_2.jpg

OLSEN
September 19th, 2003, 06:51 PM
Hi,

its looking good, but i especially like the design of the building just behind the spaceship. Very classy.

I think some more lightsources would do a lot to bring this piece one step further, nothing extravagant, just some lonely neon lights, or whatever fits the scene best.

Thats all. :)

LightBrownboy
September 19th, 2003, 07:02 PM
Hi Scott, Cool looking piece, i see your center of interest but i agree with Olsen in bumping up the light source at your center of interest...the platform. All the edges in the center seem to feel the same, maybe push a few hard edges in the ship and some sharp cast shadows in the area.

Love the perspective. Hope that helps....keep rockin away man!


-pat

DragonGX
September 19th, 2003, 07:40 PM
Add a little more detail to the buildings.. I know its kidn of hard in a cityscape liek that, but thye seem to "boxy" to me.. like shapes rendered in a 3d program..

Also increase the contrast a little bit.. even at night theres a good amount of contrast, and everything should be cloaked in moon light..

davi
September 19th, 2003, 07:57 PM
I updated the saturation and the brightness of many colors. I dropped the saturation on the things far in the distance, like the 'port' below, and i added a bunch of glowy stuff because i like glowy stuff.

Http://www.creatureone.com/paintover-scott1.jpg

Scott Robertson
September 19th, 2003, 08:32 PM
Thanks guys,
Yeah the lights are purposely low in intensity. I guess they are a bit to sublte. Pulling them up at this point is pretty easy so i will give it a try when I can find some more time.
Davi, thanks for the tweaks, might be bit to far from what I had in mind but sure helps to see options.
DragonGX,good point, I will add more detail later, I ran out of steam and thought I should get some more crits.

It feels like it is starting to get a bit too stiff for me, I'll try and work in some painterly strokes when I revisit it.

Thanks again guys.

Mysen
September 19th, 2003, 09:48 PM
my 2 cents. if it is supposed to be a night pic.. make it feel more like a night pic. (nice stuff by the way.)

example.
http://www.innersaga.com/temp/night_PO.jpg

grinn
September 19th, 2003, 10:27 PM
I really like Mysen's edition, though some of the grungy industrial feeling is lost to the darkness.

ShawnYe
September 20th, 2003, 12:36 AM
I tried adding in a big red moon, not sure how it goes...

http://www.shawnye.com/images/night_2copy.jpg

Sammy
September 20th, 2003, 04:09 AM
I tried to bring out the contrast not only in lighting but also in the negative and posotive space.. but mostly negative..

I also thought it would be cool if the moon was a toe..







http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/scottsketch.jpg

....man.. I was pretty confodent in it at first .. but it lacks something when posted next to your stuff...

Atmospheria
September 20th, 2003, 04:21 AM
damn..it looks very good scott...but yea...you should add some contrast to the pic...and some highlights...
flying ships maybe...or a landing ship in smokes...i love landing ships...it makes me more exited about that pic!
very well...keep them comin please...

Ant4d
September 20th, 2003, 06:31 AM
really beautiful.
I'm thinking of lights as well, but rather distant backround lights for the city and stuff.

chukw
September 20th, 2003, 10:42 AM
We're way up high here- How about hot lights down, down at street level, fading up to black rooftops against the sky? Check out nighttime pix of NYC to unravel my cryptic commentary. Would a city this vast and complex ever slow own? i think it would be teeming and busy all the time at street level, and yours looks kinda sleepy. That low light, warm light sorce would give you a nice contrasty mood way up on the landing docks... It's pretty intimidating make suggestions to an artist of your caliber, Scott, but you once again show us the way by asking for ideas when in unfamiliar territory. Zowie!

Scott Robertson
September 21st, 2003, 10:13 AM
Thanks for all the comments guys.

Mysen,
I really like the star filled sky, I'll give that a try later today, thanks.

Sammy,
What can I say? My mind just can't keep up with you, maybe in couple of years I can try to achieve proper execution of the fabled "toe moon".

Lights, yes more lights.

chukw,
Yeah I think you are right a city of this cale would never slow down, but I did! Hence the lack of activity and light at ground level. I'll try and add some more today.

Thanks again guys.

Oblio
September 22nd, 2003, 09:08 AM
well.. i'll try another aproach.
i love your pic - it's so moody and there is no way for me to give any rendering advice to you.
However, i think you should add something worm and very full of life into it.
Your piece is so cold and technicall that i feel the need to see a pure contrast with some doves or a huge firebird, or something.. a la Dodowa. :)
Something poetic and all.
I hope you get my point. However, i feel that this pic has a background and something like that couldn't fit so... i'm just babling

Oblio :chug:

BARONTiERi
September 22nd, 2003, 09:46 AM
:chug: I like it Scott, but sometimes it's good to add some more fantasies in the drawings, yours is very realistic and I like all the propositions in here, bit more graphic!
but it is great as usual.

Signature
September 22nd, 2003, 10:23 AM
That's how I like it most:
http://www.andyart.de/images/overpaints/night_2b.jpg
Kinda changes the center of interest.
Call me boring ...

OLSEN
September 22nd, 2003, 12:03 PM
Signature-> Thats boring, you could at least have added a toe..

Signature
September 22nd, 2003, 12:12 PM
If Scott Robertson :bow: isn't capable of adding a toe I won't try it either.
I could have copied the one from Sammy's version .. but that would be stealing.
:angel:

Scott Robertson
September 23rd, 2003, 11:48 AM
I tried and tried, but still no toe!
Here is what I came up with instead....

http://www.drawthrough.com/ftp/night_3.jpg

kimchee
September 23rd, 2003, 12:01 PM
Perfect. Man, you're really good at taking constructive criticism and working it into your work. More often than not, great feedback leaves the piece unchanged. A shame, really.

Class act.

Sammy
September 23rd, 2003, 12:13 PM
great, but I still miss your brushstrokes, grain, and chunks of light that liven up your other works.