Cloverfield

[JAG.]

fuck yeah! :D

- JAG

[rustikof]

GUNNA SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY YEAH

(couldn't resist)

seein it tonight! woo

[Jason Rainville]

Someone tell me, PM if necessary what the monster looks like. Pweeeeeease :)

[aylap]

That was probably one of the coolest movies I've seen. Definitely one of my top favorites now. Go Cloverfield!

[jinxtigr]

I'm just mad at them for astroturfing the internet to death over this.

I saw a picture and the monster looked like a guy in a rubber suit with big arms and the head of the cave troll from LOTR. The whale-creature a CA poster came up with was WAY cooler, monsterwise.

Yay for people with cameraphones, because I wouldn't see this wretched movie if you paid me. Everything I hear says that people can't really figure out what happened. In an action monster movie?? And there's still astroturfers pointing out that there's backwards whispers over the end credits or something. Predictably saying 'Paul is dead' or 'the monster survived' or some damn thing.

*SIGH*

aylap- you're all in one thread here, which is kinda chatty. How about seeing some other movies? Try the Blade Runner re-release that's just come out on DVD, if you're talking about movie coolness. It's hard to outcool that :)

[0kelvin]

It was fucking awesome.

[Red_Rook]

It was incredibly fucking awesome, Dougs whale monstrosities where fantastic, but I cant say im not thrilled with Neville Pages version. Incredibly effective. And really fucking cool. I would love to see the concept work for that.

[JAG.]

ah bollocks! it wa s a great ride for what it was.. and there are some sort of mumblings at the end of it but who cares.. at that point you've seen what you need to see and it was great fun. i actually got sweaty palms at a few points in that, like the dark ass subway tunnel.. and i dont know about all this confusion as to whether or not it was a happy ending. i thought it was pretty clear.. - JAG

[aylap]

Blade Runners? Never heard of it. Of course, I really don't get to see too many movies, but when I get a chance I'll be sure to watch. Unfortunately, I don't know when that will be, because I've barely had time to even draw...which makes me very sad. :C

Something tells me Cloverfield is going to be one of those movies that either you really like it, or you really hate it.

[jinxtigr]

Well alright- sorry for being cranky. I still say camcorders are too little and light to produce useful camera shake. My touchstone for camera shake that's awesome wouldn't be Blair Witch, it would be French Connection.

Which is also awesome, but in a very different way ;)

"Blade Runner". If posting on a concept-artist webforum is your idea of fun (I'm enjoying it :meow: ) then it's time you heard of it, because it's a brilliant example of concept art in every way- if you aren't instantly blown away in the first ten minutes, you must not like futuristic noir stuff. One of the most amazing movies EVER for setting a vibe, and it's all concept-art type work. It's the look of everything, right down to the little logos. Of course, the ability of the script to set a mood is also amazing. That opening interrogation scene always freaks me out even though I know what's going to happen.

[jinxtigr]

Well alright- sorry for being cranky. I still say camcorders are too little and light to produce useful camera shake. My touchstone for camera shake that's awesome wouldn't be Blair Witch, it would be French Connection.

Which is also awesome, but in a very different way ;)

"Blade Runner". If posting on a concept-artist webforum is your idea of fun (I'm enjoying it :meow: ) then it's time you heard of it, because it's a brilliant example of concept art in every way- if you aren't instantly blown away in the first ten minutes, you must not like futuristic noir stuff. One of the most amazing movies EVER for setting a vibe, and it's all concept-art type work. It's the look of everything, right down to the little logos. Of course, the ability of the script to set a mood is also amazing. That opening interrogation scene always freaks me out even though I know what's going to happen.

[MrSmith]

i gotta say i disliked it for the most part. you get a few lightning fast shots of something cool, then about ten minutes of hearing pretty people whine while the camera shakes violenty. The whole shaky cam gimmick sucked.

why is that whenever something cool was about to happen, the cameraman instead decided to focus on one of the characters (or nothing at all), as if I wouldnt know what the fuck they are feeling/doing? i dont need to see that. i need to see MONSTERS WRECKING SHIT!

It was just frustrating. sex without the climax. at least its short.


oh and by the way. the cameraman is the most annoying character since Jar Jar.

[Costau D]

Possible spoiler...






Anyone see the object fall out of the sky near the boat on the right side of the screen?
It was during the coney island scene at the end.

[0kelvin]

I missed that, but I've heard from other people that spotted it.

[Jacob Kobryn]

I just saw it! Damn it rocks!
Did anyway stay through the credits? Two words:
PETE KONIG!!!
Could they have chosen someone better to do the concept art??? I think not...

[Costau D]

That must be the ultimate sensation in the world when it comes to a persons art. I mean look at it from his perspective. He designed this creature, and probably had a little bit of changes done to it by certain departments. And, you get to see your idea come to life because of all the hard work the modelers, animators, riggers, and texture artists put into this film.

The great thing about this film. The director had limited camera movement, and that didn't give the special effects artists free reign to abuse the freedom thats offered with 3D and camera shots. That just made it feel all the more real to me.
The reason I never feel a part of a movie recently is because the freedom is abused that CG has to offer. To me its amazing all the work put into this, and how hard it must've been to do all these special effects but still make it look like it is being filmed on a shitty home camera. This IS a very creative film to me, not in the way of blade runner or star wars, but because of the purposeful limitations put onto the film making process and trying to bring out as much creativity through as little as possible.

i do feel sorry for those who couldn't fully enjoy this film without getting dizzy or motion sickness. I can understand why some don't like it. Hell there was a father behind me the whole time bitching about why his boys brought him to see such a crappy film. He wouldn't shut up. But, it was mainly due to the shaky cam I overheard. Also, the choice of characters and story could be irritating to some.

I have to admit this film is only made for the theatres, and with a good audience. That makes it all the better.

[JAG.]

indeed.. i dont imagine this being the same at home vs the theater. honestly i couldnt really get into the chracaters or their problems with each other.. but i could get into them being in a fubar situation and trying to get thru it asap.

i loved that it was only from their pov the whole time, not knowing wtf was going on anywhere else and with no information, that seems much more realistic in terms of being able to relate to them. - JAG

[James Kei]

I just saw it! Damn it rocks!
Did anyway stay through the credits? Two words:
PETE KONIG!!!
Could they have chosen someone better to do the concept art??? I think not...

Pete served as Art director for Tippet studio's but the Creatures were designed in Los Angeles by Nevelle Page. A letdown if you ask me. I thought the creatures looked somewhat goofy.

[DanielC]

yeah, was fun but did not deserve the whole buzz it had going around...
Blair witch already did it ..

[Jason Ross]

Possible spoiler...






Anyone see the object fall out of the sky near the boat on the right side of the screen?
It was during the coney island scene at the end.


yes i was the only one in my group who saw it too. You see it splash in the waterup behind the boats.

[Mr.Otsredir]

i loved it. there were times i got dizzy, namely when they are on the roof and the jets kept flying overhead, but that could have come from the fact i dont do well with heights.

i loved the look of the smaller creatures, and loved the "ow" sounds they made. the bigger creature just seemed out of place. i dont see the reasoning behind the smaller little arms.

im i the only one here to hated blade runner? i love scifi, but that movie was boring as hell.

[Mitchell]

I was bummed that it wasn't a lion.:(

but for the most part I enjoyed it.

[kool-ka-lang]

Lol I never got the buzz.

I'm sorry, but I thought it was going to be a horrorcomedy-spoof of some sort. And the critics I'm getting from my friends aren't too good. :/

[Icelandic Norm]

I loved the movie but was it just me or was there TOO much camera movement. I liked the effect but it seemed like overkill.

[Minja]

I went opening night with a pretty large group and only a few of us thought it was worth our time. I was rather happy with it, it was exactly what I wanted to see. I didn't expect some amazing storyline, I knew the basic premise of the movie beforehand (my friends however, maybe got their hopes up a lil' too high), the creature design was awesome, the whole mood of the movie was great and had my heart racing (well, not quite 'racing', but going at a good pace. haha) the whole movie through.

I didn't feel the camera shake was that bad to be honest, and in some parts it really helped. I totally agree with Chimp.

And by the way, I saw the thing drop as well! hah

As soon as I saw the end scene had water in the background I started paying attention to that more than the characters in the shot.

The flaming-homeless-person bit was pretty funny too. haha

[Costau D]

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[Digitalmar]

Cloverfield frackin' rocked! The whole going back for my girlfriend thing was the only thing that made me give this 4 out of 5 stars. :yum:

[NoelB]

I thought it was well done for what it was. It was never going to live up to all the hype but that doesn't make it a bad movie. I was happy with the monster as it wasn't some lame Godzilla rip off and even though I'm not a fan of the shaky camera in most movies, it's in context here so it didn't bother me. This whole thing on Coney Island is intriguing as I missed that.

As for Blade Runner, the story aint much but the look of it is amazing and still holds up today.

This is my first post so please excuse any noob mistakes I may make.

[aefx]

I saw some concept are on the web that looked like it was done by ignatz. Not sure if he may have created it for the movie or was inspired by it.

[Dizon]

There's a Cloverfield manga that's set before the movie. It's not translated yet.

[digital_zombie]

I admit, I only got to see part as I got very nauseous from the get go, but...i liked what I saw...don't know if it was worth it or not though....motion sick for over an hour doesn't scream good movie to me...

[Jacob Kobryn]

:as: :ap: :ao: :ai: :al: :ae: :ar:


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I found some interesting info about the movie that might clarify a few things:

The Japanese oil company TAGRUATO drops a satellite (Chimpanz III) into the ocean as part
of viral marketing (shown at the end of the movie when Rob and Beth were on the ferris wheel).
TAGRUATO works with SLUSHO (a slush company), as the main ingredient for SLUSHO is found
at the satellite dropzone (deep ocean). While searching for satellite and ingredients, they
woke Cloverfield (the monster).

People who were at the party in the beginning of the movie, were seen wearing SLUSHO shirts.
Rob apparently was going to be the Vice President of TAGRUATO in Japan.

The main ingredient of Slusho apparently turns a tiny fish into a HUGE whale in Ganu's (he found the nectar) dream, which explains the size of Cloverfield. *Update* The main ingredient is a deep sea nectar.

Because the ingredient was discovered on the deep ocean floor, under amazing
pressure and in the most extreme cold, Ganu knew he had to serve the ingredient in a
near frozen state to preserve its freshness. Thus the idea of Slush (Slusho)!

For animals/fishes/insects to survive in the deepest ocean (very high boiling temperature),
they naturally have very high heat resistance. This explains how Cloverfield is able to
withstand numerous bombs and attacks from the army.

Cloverfield refers to the field formerly known as Central Park. Clovers are
usually prone to grow at places after bombing. Thus the term "Clover" and "field" referring to park.

Slusho is a very addictive drink, with signs of steroid drug like effects. Makes
people stronger, constantly happy, have happy dreams and finally... "SLUSHO
makes my stomach explode with happy!!" (Remember Marlena's stomach?)

[Lukias]

Thats quite bananas, as in "Interesting".. and weirdly perceptive.

How do you know that was a sat going into the ocean at the end.. I thought it was the thingymapoo?.

[armando]

I saw it a couple days ago, it had a lot of good stuff going for it, but it definatly had some bad stuff too.

The title totally sucks, "Cloverfield"... lame, not exciting.

The first twenty minutes or so with the party and whatnot were fuckin boring, was like some MTV reality show, and I thought the camera was shakier there than in the rest of the movie.

The creatures worked, but if you read Neville Page's explanation of what he was going for concept-wise it was a total failure, but I still thought they were effective for different reasons.

Also thought some of the shot for shot remakes of 9/11 footage were in bad taste.

But overall I still liked it, the action is intense, and the story elements were believable, it was a lot better than Speilberg's "War of the Worlds".

[Moai]

(Spoilers?)



Good, but somewhat frustrating movie. The creature designs were great, and contrary to what I'd heard, the characters weren't boring and the actors' performances weren't bad.
The movie had flaws, though. Some of the scenes were too slow, like before and after the subway tunnel scene. Also, the way the characters died sucked. I'm all for killing off characters if it serves a dramatic or plot-based purpose, but...I don't know, the way Hud and the girl who got bitten by the bug died just didn't satisfy me. They hadn't outlived their usefulness as characters yet.
Also, the ending was totally frustrating. I wanted a more dramatic confrontation between the characters and the monster in Central Park. And did the people live?? Did the monster get nuked to death? WTF was the monster, anyway?? What was the aftermath of the events shown in the movie?? I realize that we were intentionally given very little information, but still, it was extremely frustrating. First No Country for Old Men, now Cloverfield. Both movies were good while they lasted (though I'm not saying Cloverfield is nearly as good as No Country for Old Men), but both has unsatisfying endings. If the next movie I see has a disappointing ending, I'm probably going to have to scream.

[ShadowOfTheSun]

The creatures worked, but if you read Neville Page's explanation of what he was going for concept-wise it was a total failure, but I still thought they were effective for different reasons.

where did you read this?

[kennygeeze]

After reading so many bad reviews -- along with people comparing it to the blair witch project ... I was very pleasantly surprised.

I got to see the monsters alot more than I thought I would going in.

I wound up having to enjoy the film alone though because the person I came with had to leave the theatre due to motion sickness after the first half hour. They hung out with a small group of people who left due to the same reasons... and then came back in when the credits rolled.

Spoilers***
I didn't think the monster really snuck up on them at the end. It just seemed to be able to close alot more ground in less time as soon as it left the highly cramped quarters of the concret jungle.

I hope there's some sort of sequel or more things that come out to do with the story. I thought it was really well done.

[Davian Compton!]

I didn't know the creature itself was called Cloverfeild, hmm. I didn't know what it was called so I just called it a Thresher Maw, namely the way its victims mystriously "exploded" shortly afterwards.

[Big Orange]

The creature itself was well designed for what it was, but slightly disappointing considering the weird sh*t found at the bottom of the ocean.

[Davian Compton!]

Go here (http://cloverfield.wikia.com/wiki/Cloverfield_Wiki).

[Presence]

"Hey Rob, Rob, Rob, Dude, dude Rob, wait up Rob, hey Rob, stop, Rob stop, hey rob stop dude." - Hud.

I think that was the entire second act set of dialogue for Hud. Drove me completely nuts.

The film though gave me so much more than I expected, specifically in the entertainment arena, once you settle into the visual style a little more your brain tends to predict and compensate the camera. It really does turn into a thrill ride.

[Rusty]

watched it the other night, thoroughly enjoyed this movie especially after being forced to watch "meet the spartans". *cough

Spoilers***

Personally, i thought they showed the creature too much, and some of the scenes felt too setup like when the camera dude gets munched at the end the camera lands next to him and frames him in the shot. I dunno, it just felt too contrived we already know wat happened dont need to show it, if his head was missing it would of been better.heh!, but im just a picky bastard from what was otherwise was a good film.

luckyly there wasnt an overkill of hype about this movie in New Zealand like there was in the states because i probably wouldnt of watched it.

...Jase

[Renegade89]

I am really surprised about finding so many good critics and reviews to the movie... to be honest i thought it was really mediocre, am i really such a jerk? :shrug:

Didnt see anything special about this movie, just some pretty people running around while a goofy monster fights the army, just adding a shaky camera.

Not the worst ever, there were a couple of good scenes but the plot wasnt interesting at all, the characters suck, and i didnt even liked the creatures too much myself, the so praised action wasnt a big deal imo ,pretty average, and it was very diluted.
Just another random film you watch with friends on a regular weekend,and then forget all about it.

[Crash]

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[Kan Muftić]

>WARNING: SPOILERS<

They are making the sequel! It's the same event, same place, told from someone else's perspective - the guy with cam on the bridge!

I loved the film for several reasons.
1. Upper-class yuppies characterisation within just first few minutes
2. Stunning visuals and sound fx
3. Great ending. Yes, it's great. Why not? They got bombed, none has a clue what happened afterwards and there's no explanation for the whole thing. Why should there be? Imagine something like that would really happen. None would come and explain it to you.
And c'mon, the creature was fucking awesome!

[Kan Muftić]

This is just great!
Viral Marketing for Cloverfield:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Lvl7FORI8&feature=related

[Jacob Kobryn]

There's an interview with Nevile Page here:
http://io9.com/357856/io9-talks-to-cloverfield-monster-designer-neville-page

[kingshaj]

in not usually a snob about character development, usually don't judge films on that level

but i hoped all these characters died fast in this film , it was like an ad for the "axe" effect gone wrong,...or could have been called "dude wheres my city?..."towering teen inferno"?
i mean the entire city was poulated by people of exactly 26.5 years of age.
even "breakfast club" had the vice principal character.

this would have been excusable, if the creature design blew my socks off, but if found it a bit of a yawn.


i was actually disappointed that all the b.s.-misdirection web stuff about "slusho" and "you cant drink 6" ....ect, was just a ruse...it would have at least fought off some of the yawns.

thats how bland the film felt...although i had a great time, i totally forgot the whole film before i made it to the parking-lot....it was completely disposable

the shakey cam and verite' angles where a yawn...done before.
despite the incredible backgrounds and cg matte work etc....
just bored me

the one saving grace was the exploding girl.

[Lotet]

this movie was totaly awezome , one of the greater movies in a long time, and those spiolers by Jake kobrin wher kidna freaky.

[REGNIRUTH]

i just saw this on dvd and i gotta say...for something kind like blair witch, but 10 times better and more interesting. The way it was filmed was very well done. i'll say that the creatures were the best part. especially the parasites, those things were awesome.

I had big doubts for this movie but now that i've seen it, I actually liked it. it's different from your typical hollywood film.

[armando]

where did you read this?

Sorry for the late reply. I forgot where exactly, but it's probably somewhere in that cloverfield wiki link, which I will not peruse in it's entirety, but I found this quote by Abrams "the creature is “. . . a baby. He’s brand-new. He’s confused, disoriented and irritable. And he’s been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years." Neville page said something similar of it being disoriented and a scared creature, but I found the creature far to tactical, like it had an agenda, especially the part were the parasites went after the troops, like it had it's own little monster army to take out small threats while it concentrated on the buildings and threats from the air.


I'd also like to add how lame that toy looks, it looks like a bat without wings when you see it all out in the open like that from a decent angle. It's no T-Rex.

[Flake]

I enjoyed that far more than I expected to, good stuff.