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Clueless
January 13th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Hello everyone,
I'm quite new to the art world and I was wondering:
is it more valuable a drawing from life or from mind?
This, obviously, if anatomy and proportions are expressed at the same level of accuracy in both modes.
Thanks.
Elwell
January 13th, 2008, 12:24 AM
Valuable to who?
lithunica
January 13th, 2008, 12:27 AM
I think It does not really matter, even when you are drawing from your mind you are still rendering reality. Although if you can draw from life drawing from the mind becomes much easier. (unless you are applying for college or something)
Clueless
January 13th, 2008, 12:27 AM
Who's the real artist? The one who can draw from life or the one who can draw from mind?
Clueless
January 13th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Thing is that when I draw from life I get kinda stuck to the pose and I find it very difficult to express movement/life. On the contrary, if I focus on a sequence in mind, it's really easier for me to express something through the drawing. What am I doing wrong?
Ilaekae
January 13th, 2008, 12:41 AM
"What am I doing wrong?"
First off, you're worrying about something that has no useful answer. In fact, it's not even a problem, let alone one that requires an answer.
When you draw what's in front of you, you're learning to interpret reality accurately. When you draw what's in your mind, what I just mentioned in the last sentence allows you to execute your vision accurately into an equally valid reality.
...and your socks don't match. Tacky...
you looked, didn't you? :P
subversive-imaginati
January 13th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Who's the real artist? The one who can draw from life or the one who can draw from mind?
Both, neither. There's your answer. Anything else you'd like to know like what's art and what's not art? Or maybe you could actually go do some art instead of asking redundant questions for which the only possible answers are opinions rather than facts.
Clueless
January 13th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Thanks for wasting some of your time to reply to my redundant question.
Seedling
January 14th, 2008, 12:41 PM
Sub, if you can't help but be nasty to people who ask perfectly innocent questions, then please refrain from posting.
Clueless – its all about what sort of artist you would like to be. Some artists are happy working strictly from life. Others are happy producing only work that is from imagination. Though keep this in mind: while it is possible to be an artist who never works from imagination, an artist who does work from imagination absolutely must devote time to working from life if they aspire to make recognizable images of things.
Vhan Juju
January 14th, 2008, 12:56 PM
Clueless.
Art is only done by a artists. An artist has to be 5feet 6inches tall. They have to use oil pants only. Have mutiple art degrees from a university of prestiege. For they art is must only be....
I like to think of art as "Thinking, free of legalism."
As long as you have clear thoughts...
Don't forse legalism on yourself.
Mitze
January 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM
One of the exercises from the book "artist for beginners" was draw a pepper from your mind take 5 to 10 minutes shade it. Now get a real pepper and take 5 to 10 minutes to draw that compare them. That should answer your question.
subversive-imaginati
January 14th, 2008, 01:39 PM
Sub, if you can't help but be nasty to people who ask perfectly innocent questions, then please refrain from posting.
With all due respect,
A slightly flippant response to what is really a very common and pointless question which the asker could have searched for? is not the same as being needlessly nasty which is what you seem to be implying that I am.
If you have an issue with my responses, ask a mod to intercede if they concern you that much. If they have an issue with my post, I'll be happy to discuss it with them.
To be honest, I consider you to lack the right to lecture me based on your judgment of my posts, especially since you have proved (in past comments on my posts) that you are overly fond of taking a stance without all pertinent information.
John
January 14th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Technically, you are always drawing from your mind.
Rabid
January 14th, 2008, 03:04 PM
Technically, you are always drawing from your mind.
Very true, no matter from where art is always an interpretation, just how every experience a human has is through their eyes. It can be argued that a person is often the sum of their experiences...
chaosrocks
January 14th, 2008, 03:12 PM
we tend towards flippant responses. and sometimes thats the only response. Please remember that irony is often misunderstood in person and on the boards. I hope you all are at least respectful to one another. in other words...please be nice personal insults are not nessisary.
Clueless
try it
one from memory and one from observation.
of course John is right even observation direct from life ins filtered through the mind.
and incase you hadn't figured it out.. I am a mod. so's Elwell.
And my soxs do match, they are authentic striped revolutionary war reinactor knee socks
Chaosrocks
Ilaekae
January 14th, 2008, 03:30 PM
...and she swings a mean 12 gauge double barrel... :P
chaosrocks
January 14th, 2008, 03:35 PM
black powder Kentucky long rifle! Takes 2 minutes to load and kicks like a mule...but makes a mighty fine bludgeon for the pigheaded.
and the sox show off the dimples on my knees
Clueless
January 14th, 2008, 03:47 PM
I want to thank you all because your answers made me a bit less clueless and a bit more confident.
I will remember them.
GRAZIE.
I will try and draw both through my heart and my eyes.
Ilaekae
January 14th, 2008, 05:08 PM
...and they are dimples to die for...:hugsmile:
•Lindsay•
January 14th, 2008, 05:45 PM
One of the exercises from the book "artist for beginners" was draw a pepper from your mind take 5 to 10 minutes shade it. Now get a real pepper and take 5 to 10 minutes to draw that compare them. That should answer your question.I actually did this to see what would happen. Can you tell which is which (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/linzoy/pepper.jpg)?
chaosrocks
January 14th, 2008, 10:40 PM
and elwell... and wouldn't that be
"to whom is this valuable" ?
:p
by all means let us be formal sir
roxie
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