Water mixable oil paint?

[shinji-eva01]

Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of joining this painting class, but all they use is water mixable oil paint. I've only done acrylics before so I don't know how regular oils are. What do you all think of water mixable oils? There wasn't too much selection at the art store for this stuff either. I have this funny feeling they aren't great to use. Should I try to find a different class that uses real oils?

[jester]

They are real oils, they are even mixable with "normal" oils (but loose their solubility, of course). Winsor & Newton's Arisan colors are great with a wide range of colors (40 I think). They just have the advantage of easy cleaning and no hassle with smelly turpentine. So go for that class!

Jester

[bat]

Oil paint you mix with water is no different in application than turpentine or other thinner based. The beauty that this type of paint is so much easier to mix and clean up after it is amazing that people still use the old style of oils.

bat

[DragonGX]

If I could get water soluable oils for the same rpice i can get regular oils for, I would use them..

[dbclemons]

I like these very much, and have been using them for several years. They're made from linseed and safflower oil that's been treated to break down with water. I started using Grumbacher's Max then switched to W&N Artisan a while back (Max had a bit of an odd smell to it, but much better than turps.) They're great, and the look and feel is very oil-like, and dry much faster than oil, though slower than acrylic. You can even add their versions of Stand oil or Impasto medium.

The school is wise to use paints that don't require solvents. They're hazardous, and the fumes are pretty intense in tight spaces with many people using them.

You can get these online at places like www.dickblick.com for @$3.00 a tube (37ml) which is a decent price, I think.

Winsor & Newton has good information on this at their site
http://www.winsornewton.com/

-David

[Manta_Ray]

Ok, water soluble oils sounds interesting. What I would like to know is...what are people's preferences oil or acrylic? What are the advantages of either? I have rarely bothered with oils mainly because I dont know how to work with them and the y take so long to dry....maybe Im wrong here, but can any oil enthusiasts elucidate on why they prefer them?

Cheers
;)

[The_Dude_Abidin]

I have used oils and acrylics and I personally perfer oils because of thier richness and extended time for mixability. Also the layered oils have a deeper look to me than acrylic. But once again I believe all of theses are entirely opinion based. i have never tried the water soluble but it seems almost like an oxymoron to me. the closest i have come to such a thing is a medium that causes oils to dry a little quicker. Out of the two i just like the feel of oils but maybe the other is worth a try. As far as thier advantages i think it is the glow you can get with oils. For an example check out some rembrandt. 7 color palette yet his images glow with light. The reason is light shines through oils paints and reflect back at ou through the layers. I love the rich deep look that layered oild have. Go look at some masters oils and some well done acrylics and see if you dont see a difference. But in the end its the one you feel most comfortable handling. As far as water soluble oils I dont believe such a thing exsist. Becasue by definition oil and water do not mix or are soluble. Anyway I just say go either acrylic or oil, damn the clean up time if one looks better.


the Dude