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immortalindigo
December 3rd, 2007, 10:46 PM
Here's my thread for my anatomy studies. I'm an EXTREME beginner! I'm also very motivated. I really want to learn how to sketch well, so I'm excited that Goog agreed to help me with anatomy.

I'm working from the Loomis book Figure Drawing For All It's Worth. Goog asked me to do two or three full body studies from the book and then do two or three from my imagination.

This is my fourth attempt on the male body.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/2085012357_7bdd3ac20b.jpg

I don't really want to show my first three attempts.

I can tell that I obviously need to study this more. I know that there's stuff that's wrong (either out of proportion or off balance). I just can't put my finger on it yet.

Fearless mentor help me out and help me see what I'm missing.

Thanks a lot,

Indigo

Goog
December 4th, 2007, 06:11 PM
These are good, but obviously need work. I think the best thing right now is to just hammer away at it. First thing I need to know is, how much time are you willing to put into this? Do you have work, extra curricular activities etc.? For your first assignment, I want you to do 5 studies of your non-drawing hand. When you are drawing it, and relate all edges you see to a horizontal line in your mind, see how vertical or horizontal they are, then draw accordingly. If this doesn't make sense please tell me, and ill try to explain it better.

Cheers, and glad I can help!

immortalindigo
December 4th, 2007, 10:04 PM
Hi Goog,

To answer your question, I'm willing to put A LOT OF TIME into this. I do work and I go to school full time. However, this semester is coming to an end. Even if the semester wasn't coming to an end, I'd still put in the time. I truly want to learn to well draw, draw from my imagination, and eventually be able to make a living at it. Everyone starts somewhere, so here I am.

I think I understand the instructions, so I'll get right on that assignment.

Thanks,

Indigo

Goog
December 7th, 2007, 10:25 PM
come on mate, its been three days, where are those studies?

immortalindigo
January 2nd, 2008, 06:51 PM
Sorry,

Exams and then I didn't have access to a scanner. Here are the hands

1st Hand
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2365/2160205166_23ec98887a.jpg

2nd Hand
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2095/2160205458_24c2eaa15f.jpg

3rd Hand
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2407/2160205700_7df004a93e.jpg

4th Hand
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2190/2160205926_0043cccbf3.jpg

5th Hand
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2304/2160206080_4345eebae2.jpg


I'm ready to receive wisdom. Thanks again.

Indigo

Goog
January 10th, 2008, 06:25 PM
These are good, but seem a little rushed. Try not to "chicken scratch" your lines, but rather keep them more fluid. alrighty, now for an self portrait to try to kick things in gear here. cheers mate!

immortalindigo
January 12th, 2008, 08:14 AM
Here is my self portrait. This was harder to do than I thought. I had to keep concentrating/looking so that I could try to draw what I actually saw, not what I "know" is there (if that makes any sense). I still didn't get things the way I thought they should be. I had a hard time with looking, but then drawing on paper. It was hard for me to draw on the paper without looking at my paper. Then whenever I looked down I lost a little of what I saw.

So here is the self portrait...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/2186786325_55f76fa468_b.jpg

Goog
January 13th, 2008, 10:06 AM
alrighty, now I know where we need to start. First things first, bone structure. This is verrrrry important because all faces and bodies are somewhat the same. Try to find a front-view of a skull, spend a lot of time mapping it. By this I mean lightly place the features where they need to be. When you think you've got the features mapped out, hold your drawing up right next to your reference, and then change what you need to. Then continue to "fill in" what you mapped out.

Sigit
January 16th, 2008, 11:51 AM
I like drawing human figure. But my drawing are not good . Can I join too? Please...

immortalindigo
January 21st, 2008, 10:31 AM
Hi Goog,

Here's my attempt at mapping out the skull.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2147/2209624724_dcbc7a7611_b.jpg

Goog
January 22nd, 2008, 08:12 PM
good, good, proportions seem to be right. Keep doing more and more of these in your spare time and you'll see improvement. I can only do so much for you, it's up to you to really get things done. If you want to eventually make a living out of it, you've got to put a lot of time into drawing.

As for the next assignment, see what anatomy books you can find and see if you cant draw some skeletons. I want 1 skull, and one full body skeleton drawing. Expecting this one soon! Cheers!

immortalindigo
January 26th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Hi Goog,

Here are my studies.

First the skull...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2081/2219196125_9e6376c508_b.jpg

and the skeleton...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2152/2219196265_ff663a200d_b.jpg

This was harder than I expected. I realize that I'm going to have to keep drawing this again and again along with faces.

Goog
January 26th, 2008, 10:20 AM
nice, but these still seem a little rushed. For your next assignment, just keep drawing the skeleton for now. In order to teach you something, could I get the reference for the skull that you did? I want to show you something regarding drawing from reference. Cheers!

immortalindigo
January 27th, 2008, 08:22 AM
Hi Goog,

Here is the reference photo that I used...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2375/2222358913_b57691fa66_b.jpg

Goog
January 27th, 2008, 10:49 AM
ack, I was meaning the reference for the skull not the skeleton. What I want to show you would be easier using the skull reference, you'll see why.

immortalindigo
January 27th, 2008, 06:36 PM
Oops!

Sorry about that. Here's the skull...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2223880653_5f4ed8bbcf_o.jpg

Goog
January 29th, 2008, 04:09 PM
alright here's the lesson. When drawing you need to take as much time as you
possibly can mapping out the whole skull before you begin to darken the lines. Whilst mapping the image out, you need to be constantly referencing the image and making readjustments to your piece accordingly. You need to spend alot of time doing this, especially as a beginner, but as you do this process more and more you will become much more proficient at this.

Here is a GIF to show you how this applies to you. It appears that you accidentally skewed the whole skull. Spending more time in the map out stage will prevent this from happening.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b250/Googprod/bad-study.gif

immortalindigo
January 29th, 2008, 08:07 PM
Hi Goog,

I've got a question for you. When you do (or used to do) a study on anatomy, like the skull, the thigh, whatever the part of the body; do you physically measure the picture to see the proportions? For example, for the self-portrait I found out EXACTLY what the proportions where for the face (so many eyes wide, divided into thirds, etc.). The skull is a little different because of those eye sockets, so should I go ahead and for example if drawing the skeleton measure the skull in relationship to the whole skeleton, or if drawing the skull divide the skull into thirds vertically, or whatever body part I'm looking measure it to see how the pieces relate to the whole?

Thanks for your time,

Indigo

Goog
January 30th, 2008, 04:54 PM
Yes and no. What I am trying to teach you, and what you need to learn before we really get into anatomy, is to draw what you see, not what you think you see. This is why I showed you're skull picture imposed over the reference. You drew what you thought you saw, not what was actually there.
I use this ability to "see" what I draw in conjunction with the basic or "standard" proportions. Using your example of the face,when you measure how many eyes wide etc., those proportions are a general rule of thumb. This is why you need to learn to draw what you see. First you I measure out the "standard" proportions, but then you need to readjust them to what is actually there. Make sense? As for your next project, draw that skull again, but take your time in the map out stage! Really try to get "in the zone" on this. I find listening to music helps me. Cheers, and hope this helps!

immortalindigo
March 5th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Hi Goog,

I haven't forgotten my anatomy studies, I just had to put things on hold for a moment or five...

I'm taking 18 credits--music, art, and special education. I got bogged down in drawing for class. The art professors are killing me, but I think it's a good thing. We have SOOOO much drawing to do and there are deadlines, but he's says that the only way we're really going to learn how to draw is to draw and draw at lot. We also have deadlines, we HAVE TO meet these because "if this was a professional job, you'd lose it if you didn't make the deadline."

So I've been busy, but I've been drawing A LOT. My spring break is coming up soon and I'm going to try and work on the skull then.

-Indigo