ART.MORE.NOW.

[Peetaer]

Hey there, been on here for about 2 years now and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience thus far. I'm just an image maker looking to improve his skills as best he can and one day make a living from my artwork. I would appreciate it if you gave insightful critiques of my work and avoid as any "ass-patting" comments as much as possible (which is something I am guilty of myself and not doing anymore). While I do appreciate any (and all) positive feedback sent my way, I would also like to hear about my shortcomings so I can work to improve on them. If you give me valid critiques of my work, I will most definitely stop by your sketchbook and return the favor.

Thank you for stopping by and I wish you all the best.

NEW SKETCHBOOK (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=192697)

[Peetaer]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0019.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0018.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0017.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0016.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0015.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0014.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0013.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0012.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0011.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0008.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0007.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0006.jpg

"butthead man"
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0005.jpg

"loomis studies pt.1"
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0004.jpg

"loomis studies pt.2"
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0003.jpg

"master drawings"
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0002.jpg

"Homer"
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0001.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch.jpg

[EchoArt7]

hey man love the life drawings and sketches, but i was laughin my ass off at the ipod one. Good stuff.

[Peetaer]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0020.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0021.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0022.jpg

"The Mighty Crabulon"
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/sketch0023.jpg

[Euthyphro]

You have a lot of nice stuff going here. The anatomy studies, and master studies are very nice. The lady in the second post is really nice too, but there is something about the head that is bothering me... can't seem to put my finger on it.

Keep it coming; I'll stop back in.

Vale-

EDIT: Oops, I forgot to mention. Love the political works from the first post. Its great when something can make you laugh for a minute before leaving you pensive over the truth of the statement.

[SixPrism]

Hey man, those ball-point pen master studies are fan-friggin-tastic. I wanna see you go through at least two pens a week with your sketchbook!

[SEVANS]

Good mix of 'made up' stuff and studies. You have a tendency to draw big heads (I do it too), so look out for that.

Love the IPOD idea, but wish that the white figure was drawn in abit more of a stylised way - the black linework seems abit weak.

[Peetaer]

Euthyphro, Six Prism and SEVANS: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Show of support is always appreciated!

Euthyphro: I think her face looks off because I never finished the sketch. It was a 20 min sketch session and decided to focus on the body more since I have a tendency to just draw faces. These days I've been doing the opposite, focusing more on body parts than the face. If there is something else you had in mind then let me know.

SEVANS: Yeah the linework is weak. I need to soften/round/straighten the edges on those line ends. They look blocky.

[Peetaer]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/arm04.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/arm05.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/arm03.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/arm02.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/arm01.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/arm.jpg

[Fishspawn]

Hey Peetaer, thanks for dropping by my book. I see a lot of good stuff going on here - master studies and anatomy are good for you! I'd like to see you focus more on porportion. Measuring distances and measuring angles are your friends. Also use negative space as often as possible to help you get shapes right.

Keep practicing, you're on the right track! Looking forward to your progress.

[Peetaer]

Fishspawn: Thanks for the words of encouragement and the crits! And thank you for dropping by my sketchbook also!

here are some stuff i've been working on lately. more anatomical shit.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0012.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0011.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0010.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0009.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0008.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0007.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0005.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0002.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/PW0001.jpg

[UriL]

Wow lots of stuff here, Great sketchbook, you Really captures the essencse (sp?) of Brigeman's style, I love it so rough and straight and yet you capture the gesture very very well.. just great.

I really like the way you hatched some of your more rendered pieces. more specficely the figure stuff..

Hope to see more!

[BANNED_For_POOPY_PANTS]

Rockin' pencil work!!! Your studies are great, "Homer" is off the hook.

Great job!

[Auhsan]

Great stuff so far... I always get amused when I see the loomis fun heads :}
I detect that you have a similar problem than I have, some bodies and heads seem unbalanced. like the left part is narrower than the right part like in the girl
from post 2 or the statue head (maybe is made that way). Maybe is just that you are drawing in a stranger posture where you can have the paper straight.

Have fun :teeth:

[Peetaer]

Uril: Thank you for your kind words, I dearly appreciate it.

Jonathan: Thank you. I'm glad you dig the "Homer" piece as much did drawing it. There some errors here and there but it's all practice, right?

Aushan: Thanks for the compliments and crits. You really have a sharp eye. Yes, you are right, I have been drawing a lot of these sketches with a "strange posture". I need to get a sketching table. No dinero right now.

I'll keep the drawings coming!

[Auhsan]

It just that I've done the same mistake a lot of times :}, I've tried lately of holding my sketchbook straight in any position I'm on.

[SixPrism]

Great to see you burnin' through these bridgman studies, looks like your drawing them faster and getting more confident with finding the shapes the more you do. Keep em' coming and lets see some more crazy ballpoint pen work!

[Peetaer]

Thanks dude!!

[Peetaer]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/fig_drawings0011.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/fig_drawings0010.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/fig_drawings0002.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/fig_drawings0001.jpg

more to come...

i want criticisms!!!

[SixPrism]

Hey man, great to see you incorporating Hogarth studies into the mix. One critique, and it may just be drawn this way in Hogarth's book, on the drawing below, the head seems either a little too low or the shoulder blades seem a little high...for some reason it just looks off to me. And the angle of his right pectorial muscle seems a bit sharp. I may be off, just goin' with the ole' gut. Keep up the good work man, enjoying watching this SB grow.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee76/Sixprism/fig_drawings0006.jpg

[Peetaer]

SixPrism: Yeah, I felt like it was a bit low myself. I think I made it a tad bit lower in my sketch than it was in the Hogarth book.

Thanks for taking the time to point that out!

[l.sheridan]

Great start to a sketchbook.

My only suggestion is perhaps less outlining, and to work on line quality.

For the ones you've posted so far, I would say your arm studies are the best.

[cw]

great studies!

I should follow suit really. :)

[GriNGo]

I Love Your Pen Master Studies... simply awesome skills! keep on posting man...

[Peetaer]

Sheridan: Thanks for the suggestions and the encouragements.

Apoc_Rex, GringoLoco: Thank you for your kinds words. Please do follow suit.

[gkrit]

i keep on seeing improved results in everyones body studies.
and urs r looking fine!!!
so now i think its my turn to step into that field.
post more

[Peetaer]

gkrit: thank you for your words of encouragement. yes, it is your turn to step into that field!

[Peetaer]

These are some of my latest sketches. The first two are Hogarth studies. The rest are doodles. Will be posting more soon.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010021.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010022.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010018.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010014.jpg

[Peetaer]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010016.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010012.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010011.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010009.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010006.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010005.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010003.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/figure00010002.jpg

[Autumnal Dream]

Dude, you've got greaaaaaaat anatomystudies!
I really like those high-conrast sketches, especially the ones drawn with ballpen! :D Also nice way of rendering. Keep at it!

btw.: I answered your comment in my sb ;)

[Vigilandus]

Try drawing 50% from the mind 50% studies. Put your knowledge to the test, repeatedly!

Studies look sweet, but they're studies.

Good luck!

[Peetaer]

Autumnal Dream: Thank you for the comment. The liveliest I have gotten thus far! Very encouraging.

Vigilandus: I like the way you think. That's a good idea. I'm going to go do that right now. Thank you for the suggestions.

[Peetaer]

Some recent sketches. All the sketches that I'm posting now are from imagination. Thanks for the advice vigilandus!

[Peetaer]

check it.

[Peetaer]

more for consumption

[Peetaer]

fghdfhd

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/self-sketches0010.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/self-sketches0009.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/self-sketches0007.jpg

Behold!
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/mrpryminista/self-sketches0005.jpg

[ped454]

Ahoy!

Your figure drawings stand out the most in my opinion. It seems as though you're a tad shaky with your imaginative stuff but the last pic may have a deep meaning in the amount of your progress!

Definitely keep updating!. PEACE

[Peetaer]

ped454: Thank you for commenting. In time, the imaginative stuff will improve tremendously!

[TheBeast]

hi peetaer, whats up? your first anatomystuff looks such strong, and well intended....but to tell the truth, your last posts lets miss something. what do ya learn by drawing Muscels and stuff?
please try to take more time for this, you are talentet, get up now!

[Peetaer]

The Beast Thank you for your comments. Yes, you are right; there is a noticeable contradiction between my studies and my imaginative work. This chasm will grow narrower with time. Thank you for the encouragement!

[Peetaer]

Here's a beast and a sketch of a woman from a photo

[Peetaer]

more monsters

[Peetaer]

doodles

[Peetaer]

Are these attachments a little too big?

[king_scribbles]

NICE Fig. studies,, mix that with your monster heads cause you definately have skills with the monster heads. And that male model on page one, with the loin cloth...one of the first pieces you posted....is his name Ron cause I had to draw a guy that looked like that for a couple classes a few years back. He was a GOOD model with a binder full of poses he took from books and mags and stuff, and had props and everything...fun to draw.

[Peetaer]

King Scribbles: Thank you. Yes, in time monster heads will have their appropriate monster bodies. I see that you've got an interest in drawing monsters yourself.

No, I didn't draw a guy named Ron, it was actually from a magazine.

[sjuskadur]

Your anatomy is great my friend! only thing i have to say is practice on making portraits for your bodies - to make realistic faces for them then you are pretty solid with the human form!

keep it up mate!

[Peetaer]

sjuskadur Thanks dude. I'll take that into consideration. Thanks for checking out my SB.

[Peetaer]

here's my latest stuff. no studies.

[Peetaer]

may this one haunt your dreams

[Peetaer]

i saw this thing in my dream yesterday morning. i found it so interesting that i had to draw it.

[Peetaer]

recently got a wacom and i have been working on this one for now...

[Peetaer]

some of my latest drawings...

[Peetaer]

the latest...

[Peetaer]

this is the latest thing i'm working on. it's cave with colourful alien eggs in it.

[aussiedeza]

nice work so far mate i can see progress, best bit of advice i can gice is when you do you studies turn your thinking cap on to 500% it will save you realizing further down the road that you wasted lots of hours just copying rather than learning, keep it up mate later.

[Peetaer]

thanks for dropping by aussiedeza!

[InvertedChalupa]

hey there! thanks for stoppin by my sb... I agree with the previous poster on the thinking cap thing. It's not that your not thinking (because your obviously thinking about what your doing) but it's important to think about the right things when you put that pencil to paper. One thing to think about is the individual character of the shapes and lines your producing. It kind of looks like your thinking "i'm going to draw eyes" then just drawing a uniform dark line around the perimeter of the eye as opposed to giving different line weight and subtlety to describe the "form" of the eye. This is all inclusive too... I notice you tend to draw every single tooth in the mouth when maybe you can get away with giving subtle impressions of teeth that might help the viewer feel the roundness of a row of teeth. Or if your going to draw each tooth (which is perfectly acceptable in a given circumstance) you don't need to give equal line weight/thickness to each of them. Makes it feel static and "noisy".

Concerning character of shapes, i'd say you could ask your self more often what feeling you get from the shapes your putting down. If your drawing a mean face why settle for > : ( when you could give that mean face more personality and believability (if thats what your going for) by looking at your self in the mirror at the angle you need or looking up referance on google? You will see SOOOO many more interesting shapes that will aide your drawing than anything you could imagine on your own (side note: if your going to use referance make sure it's GOOD referance... again if your going to make an angry face, why would you use referance of a guy who looks constipated AND angry? might sound obvious but something to think about... ). It also doesn't mean you have to copy the face/shapes exactly as you see, you could try to commit the basic idea to memory and use it for future use. It also helps to categorize the shape by seeing it as something it's not... kind of like seeing the shape of an elephant in the clouds. It's an old trick thats been used for centuries (even Marko Djurdjevic uses this idea). The more shapes you commit to memory (or "visual library" to sound fancy), the better your drawings get. simple as that...


hope this helps you out dood.

peace!

[Peetaer]

here's the latest on the eggs...

invertedchalupa: Many thanks to you my friend! That was a very very useful criticism/suggestion you posted.

[Peetaer]

the latest development...

[Peetaer]

booya!

[Peetaer]

fhfghfh

[Peetaer]

Okay. What can I improve on the shading/lighting here?

All comments/crits will be much appreciated.

[Peetaer]

crits, crits, crits!!! please! please!

let me know how i'm doing.

[Peetaer]

beast emerging....

[Peetaer]

it is done!....now for the crits...

[ForScience]

Sup Pete, I love your enthusiasm, keep it up and nothing will be able to stop you.

in the meantime though you asked for some crits. The First thing I am noticing is that your Dynamic anatomy studies seem to be influencing your painting style and it really shouldent. That book lights that way in order to accentuate every muscle for educational purposes, when creating an image you have a different approach and therefore need more realistic lighting.

Think of light as an on/off switch. A surface is either lit or it isn't. Right now you are painting deeper crevices as darker and the surfaces that are closest to you as brighter, instead you should have basically all shadow values be the same and all light values be the same. Once you get a hang of that idea you can start examining how the transitions between those 2 values work but at the moment I think you need to take a step back and define your forms just in terms of what is getting hit by light and what isn't. If you do I think you will be pleased with the result.

[Peetaer]

just a doodle i started about 3 hours ago...

forscience: much appreciate the kind words and crit.

[Derryn Mckay]

I think ForScience's crit was right on the mark. Also, I'd say your colours are a little too bright and cartoony. I really don't know enough about colour theory to tell you how to fix it though, sorry. My colours suck as well. I think looking at HEAPS of other art helps though because you'll slowly start to see what colours work on a subconcious level. Also u can read about colour theory on the net but my brain turns off after about 30 mins of that sort of stuff. Anyway, keep up with the study, you're improving for sure!

[Peetaer]

derryn: thanks dude. will do!

[Peetaer]

recently saw dark knight (as i'm sure most of you have). blown away by it, decided to paint some images from the promo campaign.

helps with my lighting/shading problem!

[Matt_Stevens]

Nice work. Just gave you 5*. :)

[Peetaer]

Thanks dude!

[Peetaer]

just a doodle i did this morning before work

[DeJakhalz]

Ey man,

Ty for you comment on my SB,

I see a lot of potential here. But in my opinion your pencil drawings look way better than your work on Adobe.

Id suggest to sketch more on adobe, like you did on paper. This way you will get more experience in drawing Adobe.

Just layer it up everytime, first try to make you adobe sketches as good as they are on paper, then add another layer to the lesson like colouring and after that you could learn to work with lightning and perspectives more.

Hope this comment helped a bit!

Cya! good luck with studies

[Peetaer]

DeJakhalz: Dude, thanks a bunch for the comments. Yes! I have lots of Adobe sketching ahead of me!

With that said. Here's my latest Adobe sketch. About 1-2 hours.

[Peetaer]

trying to paint this photo...

[moonskittles]

Hey, looking good!
some notes on the last study - you're going in the right direction, but you've made her face wider than in the photo, which made you make the eyes, the nose and the mouth all too wide. Keep going!

[Peetaer]

okay so i didn't add too much detail after my first post.

thanks for comments moonskittles. yes, i noticed that after i posted. it weirds, when i did the joker face, i made it narrower. in this case, i made the face wider.

got lots of practice ahead!!

[the ANGRY filipino]

hi man! thanks for dropping by my Sb.

I see some cool creatures lurking around in your Sb,

the photoref'd portrait needs some work however,
just keep pushing it!

will visit you again soon.

[Peetaer]

angryfilipino:dude, thanx for dropping by; yes, the face needs some major work done. in time....

went back to the drawing boards and really amped up my anatomy knowledge. i also tried to work more with lighting on this one....

[Peetaer]

something i quickly did this morning

[Peetaer]

check it...

one can see the difference comparing this one to the one i posted today at 1:07am. things are coming along. YAY!

[Peetaer]

here's some of my pencil work from the last 2 months...

[Peetaer]

and more...

[Peetaer]

and more...

[Peetaer]

more shit...

[Peetaer]

last, but not least...

[BubbaGump]

You've got some nice stuff going here, but the Joker promo pic is really out of proportion. It looks nothing like the Ledger make-up test. The head seems too long, and you'll notice that the promo image is pretty square.

[Peetaer]

BubbaGump: Haha, yeah. Its weird, I think I unconsciously painted the dimensions/dynamics of my own face and not Ledger's. His face is shorter and wider. People have told me that that one that I painted looks like me. Its weird because it kind of does look like me.

Thanks for dropping by!

[Envisor]

Thx for stopping by my sketchbook. Good sketchbook you've got. I'd say that you should draw from life more often, and keep studying anatomy. Some of your creatures look a little off due to awkward muscle structure. I like what I'm seeing here. Keep it up.

[Radio24]

very hogarth inspired designs here. Its good to see that you're learning with the figure stuff. Keep mass producing figure sketches, try to look at other artists as well, bridgeman, loomis, cheeck out michael mentler (aka the bone doctor), don't hesitate to look at fantasy art anatomy masters such as boris vallejo and julie bell, rebecca guay, ...frazetta of course. Also, look into some color theory, really study paintings that have great color qualities.
also,, watch skewing when drawing from 2d (other drawings, photos)

The book's lookin good, lets see some more!

Good work so far

[Radio24]

something I forgot to mention - use some bigger brushes when painting larger areas, or closer areas. It'll help get out the super sketchy-ness feeling
on this last piece, watch the proportions on the deltoid and trapezius in comparison with the head and neck. Fingers may also need to be lengthened a bit. Nice angle on this one, I'd like to see it more developed

[Peetaer]

Radio24: firstly, thanx for dropping by my sketch; secondly, yes, thus far my work is very hogarth influenced. i've also got bridgman and some loomis influence. as far fantasy artists influence, i've only got glenn fabry so far. thanx for all the mad references man, i really appreciate. i'll be sure to check those people. also, as always, i appreciate the comments/crits.

Envisor: thanx for dropping by and the comments. yes, i'm really lacking life drawing/drawing-from-life experience. thats a big one i need to work. anatomy studies are going well though but there are, as you pointed out, still big gaps in my knowledge of anatomy.

some stuff i just did about an hour and 30 mins...

[Peetaer]

here's something i've been working on the past two days. this one was practice in two ways: i tried to flesh out, no pun intended, my knowledge of the male upper body in this one as well as working on my painting skills. its a comicky style, which i like, but i want to expand and incorporate other styles also; but thats later down the road.

let me know what you think.

[Guan]

good try man, your line is free... hmm, dun know how to comment because i never draw monster, just humen only... i think add more detail on your drawing can become nice.

here my work (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126380&highlight=guan%27s+sketch+book)

[Eon]

Hey Peetaer, nice stuff happening here, I like where you're pushing your style. Your pencils and anatomy are really coming along. Love recent posts 88-89. I think something that would help your digitals would be more copying from photo refs just to pick up how it's all layed out. I know imagination is what we want but it really comes from osmosis. And since there's the obvious Giger influence he'd be a fun source to ref from.

[snootchy]

sup & welcome peetaer, i just joined this group recently too; i like your dedication and anatomy drawings, i think working with pencils first will reinforce value practice, your colors aren't bad but just like with mine values tend to get lost with colors and may become looking oversaturated or value changes might not be correct

good way to practice this is to do charcoal or any other medium that has a big point/brush/pastel/charcoal tip that you don't focus so much on the lines but the values and the shifts that give the anatomy it's form, k now i'm lost with what i'm saying so that's my cue to shut up

good work and keep it up dude

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Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.

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[Peetaer]

snootchy: hello; yes, thank you. its good to be part of the team. thank you for the suggestions on working with value. i'm going to do that once i get my license back and can go to figure drawings classes (which is soon!!!).

i was just recently working on the best piece of paintwork i have done thus far in photoshop and then the power went out for a split sec and i lost all the data because i didn't save. argh!!!!! anyways, i'm gonna do it again.

here's a recently completed work i did for a friend for her birthday. i like the way it turned out.

[Peetaer]

here's this demonic fucker i'm currently working on...

[BoiModl]

nice stuff going on in this thread dude. my suggestion for you male upper body would be to open up a medical anatomy book, and try again. your rendering skills are working, but your anatomy is all wrong.

[Peetaer]

here's the latest on the demon dude... the last post was too big... oops... here's what i've added...

[the ANGRY filipino]

Hi Peetaer,

Nice anatomy studies! the last update ( demon guy) looks a little too "orangey" though...
The expression on his face is good, although the blue lips really clashes with his skintone.

[Verehin]

Bluesh lips rock!!!!
in anatomy studies take a look on proportions

[Eon]

Push the contrast on the demon, make the shadows darker, same for the background. That way he'll pop out a lot more. Love the teeth (!), he's coming along nicely.

[snootchy]

nice job on the rendering for the demon face, don't be afraid to use different colors for skin tone as you can tweak colors later or add a gradient overlay to get color unity, but i'm really digging the demon's expression he's so angry grrrRR

also sometimes it helps to take a step back and go into greyscale mode (save what you have now) and work with the values first then use an overlay mode layer to add color

keep pushing it mang

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[Peetaer]

angry filipino: dude, thanks for dropping by a second time; you've been very kind. thanks for the crits. the lips are a bit off; though, i was going for something like that.

verehin: thanks for the suggestions. i dig that you're diggin the blue lips.

Eon: Yes! Yes! Yes! He did look flat in the last post.

snootchy: Overlay layer and grayscaling first is a great idea! I started doing the overlay thing but i wanna have it done first. Have still to do grayscale. Tomorrow's another day and I have the day off. Muhahaha! Lots of artwork ahead!!!

here's what he's lookin like now. thanks for the crits. it has helped immensely in my development of Mr. Demon Fucker.

[Carl_Soria]

Hey ! I finally got a chance to check out your sketchbook. I really dig those studies you did .. they remind me of my studies when I was learning from the Bridgman's anatomy books !
love the hand gestures and excercises too.

[jharford]

Lots of good hogarth studies there man , good stuff.
I'd suggest doing some bridgman so your rain doesn't get to hogarthed out. Worth mixing it up quite a bit. His style is so unique.

[Peetaer]

Carl_Soria: Thanks!

jharford: Will do! Thanks for the suggestions.

Here's the latest on Mr. Demon Fucker... (I've been trying to "think" more about what I draw and it seems to be working)

[Peetaer]

he's practically done. all i need now are criticisms!

[R&F]

I can see your work with Hogarth is really paying off (damn I got do much more of this stuff too). keep it up!

[grenappels]

hey, the lighting on that last piece is great. your brushwork is my only crit, it looks super high res some places and blurry at others... but that's not even something to work on, as you keep making pieces like that you;lll just get more confident and fast and your strokes will look better. so keep it up!

/edit you probably figured this out by now but also all those spikes with ridges coming out at you have great perspective... throw things like that in your sketches too for quick perspective practice that doesn't feel like boring perspective practice ;)

[snootchy]

woh! most excellent progress, i really like how your pushing the image and becoming more and more polished, really nice job!!

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[Peetaer]

R&F: Thanks dude!

grenappels: Thanks for the crits and suggestions. A more polished version will be coming soon. I'd like to have him as perfect as I can with the abilities that I have right now.

snootchy: Thanks dude! More coming soon!

[BoiModl]

looking good dude! looking thru your digital studies, i've come to the conclusion that... you tend to over-emphasize and over-exaggerate the forms of any muscle or vein or anything. if you can paint a picture that is pleasing to look at, then we will all know you understand the anatomy. we don't need to see each head of each deltoid... you know what i'm sayin? it should be apparent that your anatomy is good, but you don't need to load up every ounce of it into a shotgun and blast us in the face with it. you DO have a good feel for the anatomy, but just give your characters some skin depth, some fat, some loose tissue here or there, and THAT's when they start to look real.

keep up the awesome work on that demon head dude, consider what i've said, it may or may not help :)

[Peetaer]

BoiModl: Thanks for the advice. Yes, I know what you're saying; I'm completely aware of my overemphasizing-of-muscles tendencies. That's just the level I'm at right now. More anatomy studies ahead!

Here's the latest and final version (maybe more installments) of Mr. Demon Fucker:

[the ANGRY filipino]

Hi Peetaer!
I stand corrected, if that was the look you were going for.
and i think he would look better reversed, like in you SB avatar.
nice chin horns he has there!

[Peetaer]

the ANGRY filipino: yeah man, i like him more flipped myself. here he is flipped:

[Eon]

Man, it came out really well in the end. I like what you did with the base of the horns, adds real texture and a three dimensional feel. Love that forehead. Powerful work P!

[D.C.]

The expression on his face says it all. Nice :)

[bleupencil]

That's pretty freaky looking (in a good way), I'd tone that green highlight on his chinspikes down just a bit though. Maybe yellow his teeth a bit too? They seem too white to me, and come on... you think a guy that looks like that would remember or care to incessantly brush his teeth? ;D

[Peetaer]

Eon: Thanks man.
D.C.: Yeah, I dig the grimace.
bleupencil: Good point. I'll work on the teeth soon.


This is a rough sketch from the photo ref that I'm currently working. I wanted to work on it for three reasons: lighting/shading, color and proportions/anatomy.

Right now it's a bit rough but I feel like I've captured the essence of it. I will post a more refined version soon...

[R&F]

It looks good to me, I can't find an problems but then again I'm a noob, one diffrence that I can spot is the area of the hips they are twisted more in the photo because you can see more of her bottom area ;) well I hope I'm not talking crap.

Cheers

[Peetaer]

Nah man. You're not talking crap. That critique you gave is totally adequate. Yes, she is more twisted in the photo. I also gave her a rounder ass. I really like rounder butts so that's just a personal thang.

[bleupencil]

Looks ok to me. Will you finish it?
She could poke someones eye out with those things though >:D

[Peetaer]

bleupencil: haha. yeah, those two are pretty intimidating.

here she is finished for now. that's all i really wanted to do.

[snootchy]

nice study, yea i think in the waist it is a bit thicker than ref but very nice rendering!

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[Peetaer]

snootchy: Thanks dude.

Here's a few quickies from the last few days...

[katinki]

hey! you have some very nice anatomy studies here yourself! the latest posts look very hogarth-y! when looking at your other sketches one can see that you have his muscle figures in your mind, sometimes it gets a bit much, but i figure that's normal when you study something.

keep it on!

[R&F]

hey man new update a see, one problem though is the falling dude on the first picture you should watch the neck action because I think it shouldn't stick out like that, but I definitely like the torso.

cheers

[Peetaer]

katinki: Thanx for the crits. Yes, I am still very Hogarth influenced, something which I am still working on. I started doing anatomy studies by the Great Masters (Michelangelo, Leonardo, etc...) today; I can tell already that my style is changing.

R&F: You're becoming a regular on my page. I appreciate the attention. Thanx for the comments and crits!

Here's a guy I just got done after doing some Great Masters anatomy studies. He's also the prototype for a character that I'm working on.

[jedininjaman]

keep it up mate, its that simple

[A tua mãe]

Your pencils are great. And that first vector work is genious.

congrats

[Peetaer]

jedininjaman: Yes! Yes! Yes! Thanx for the motivation.

A tua mae: Thanx for the compliments. Much appreciated. Here are some more pencils!

[Peetaer]

and some more. these are the Glenn Fabry fantasy sketches.

[Peetaer]

these are some figures i did today.

[Peetaer]

great master leg studies...

[Peetaer]

here are some more leg studies...

[Peetaer]

one last leg study with the most intricate anatomy study i've done yet...

[Peetaer]

here are leg doodles i did after the master studies. as you can tell, still got a ways to go. can't wait to get there...

[snootchy]

dyam ur a workhorse, great job!
if your interested here is another exercise to practicing form, work with a toned sheet of paper whether it's a midtone or black and use white pastel to pull out the forms, i did this in drawing 1 back in highschool and have to say was the hardest exercise cuz we are so used to working the reverse, in the beginning it's tempting to just draw as white contour/outlines but makes u focus more on the shapes rather than the lines

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[Peetaer]

sounds like great practice! will do!

[Peetaer]

okay. so i'm just on this high from drawing all day. here are some midnight doodles i just made...

[thesadpencil]

hey there, your sb is looking good, i'm liking all those studies, they definitely show you have a good idea of what your doing, however you seem to have the same problem as me, whereas your ref'd stuff looks great but then when you make the transition over to non refd it seems like some of the knowledge from the studies is lost, but that can be fixed by just continuing on w/ all those anatomy studies, and try to put what is learned from the studies to use on your imagination stuff, other than that keep up the good work.

[R&F]

wow man that's one huge load, i like that you keep pushing :) I think there are minor issues with proportions, it maybe a question of style but the heads in #137 seem a tad to small, anyways what I like is that you are able to retain dynamism in those studies (I tend to lose that..), as to me being regular here I like how you progress and I hope that my attention motivates you somewhat

cheers

[bleupencil]

Wow! This thing exploded with art all of a sudden.
Good stuff, the studies are looking great, those hands in particular.

[D.C.]

Keep up the studies man, they're looking great.

[Virg]

hey whatsup man, thanks for your comment in my sb. You have a ton of awesome studies in your SB, really great. You seem to be more comfortable and accurate with a pencil than with digital still, I think you still need to experiment with brushes, try to find a better one for sketching digitally and im pretty sure you could get cleaner line like in your pencils. The blue guy with the pink background is nice, i like the rendering. Keep at it dude, your hard work deserves stars, keep working you will get there !

[Peetaer]

thesadpencil: dood, i know exactly what u mean. thats just another reason to keep going so that we can bridge that gap.

R&F: thanks again for the frequent visits! yes, his head is small but thats how small his head really was in the illustration.

bluepencil: thanks! yes it has! now it's up to me to keep it going.

D.C.: thanks dood.

WhiteC: thanks for the motivation!

here are a few doodles i just did...

[Peetaer]

today's pencies...

[Peetaer]

decided to get back to bridgman...

[snootchy]

dude ur linework is getting much better i can see improvement over the last few days!

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[R&F]

damn you really pushing this anatomy, that makes my want to do it to (which I will soon), you said that you didn't touch perspective yet I think you should, I would recommend to get your hands on Loomis' "Figure drawing for all it's worth", trust me perspective is quite essential in drawing figure too it helps a ton to avoid proportion mistakes in the future, yet again I must say that I like the dynamism and line work is definitely improving

cheers

[Peetaer]

snootchy: Thanx for the motivation man!

R&F: Yes. I have to start with perspective. You're absolutely right; especially since I started a new piece and I want to perspective in this one to be top notch.

Here is the rough concept for the new sketch I have fleshed. I have almost exclusively borrowed all these ideas from the album art for the new DragonForce album "Ultra Beatdown". It was actually done by Android Jones, which is why its so wicked awesome.

The cover art gave me the idea I have here. It's of this inter-galactic space warrior women who is the member of an elite fighting force. She's wielding a flamethrower with a blade attached to it. In the background I will have some nicely lit terrain with dead bodies strewn across the floor.

This piece I plan on taking a while. I thought to myself that if I flesh out the basic ideas (ideas that I want to see fully realized) then it'll motivate me to learn other aspects of "illustration development" (ya like that one, huh?), such as 1. perspective 2. environments and 3. improve on all the other things that I've already been working on.

Let me know what you guys think. Of course, this is still a work in progress and there are a lot of things that are subject to change.

[Peetaer]

Okay. This will seriously be my last update on the status of this work. I just wanted to refine it just a bit. The previous post looks really sluggish.

[Virg]

hey man, whats up. bridgemans studies are great. For that last color piece, you should really use bigger brush when painting, and DONT start on a white background, start with a color close to the average ambient color of the scene.. this one is in space os i guess it black, but for outdoors use a dark blue or green, always work well. and i dont know i f your tablet support pressure sensitivity, but your brushes should fade in size or opacity using sensitivity.... also, if you use a opaqye brush, dont hesitate to use the numbers on your keyboard ( 1 to 0 ) to quickly change the opacity of your brush ( considering you seem to use photoshop )
keep at it. :)

[Peetaer]

WhiteC: Bigger brush!? But how will I add details? How do I know if I'm using an opaque brush or not? Thanks a bunch for the feedback! I'm gonna need all the helpful tips I can get.

[grenappels]

WhiteC: Bigger brush!? But how will I add details?

here's a few simple rules of painting, they seem easy but they are just as easy to forget while "in the zone", just keep trying to think this way:

work from general to detail--you should practice making it so, before you even get past big patches of color, you can tell what the painting is by squinting at it. then you go in and refine

work from background to foreground--your subject is just an object placed in the bg most of the time, right? set in it? it's so much easier to add a subject to a scene than to build a believable scene around a subject. this doesnt mean finish the bg before even drawing out things in the foreground though... use your discretion

add in the dark darks and light lights last-- you seem to be doing that already lol nevermind

but do more drawing than digital painting, don't let yourself get frustrated in photoshop, its an annoying way of making art. your michelangelo copy looks damn good... i thought it was the original and your copy would come later in the post on first glance lol. you keep making things like that and you'll realize you can draw anything like that too :)

[snootchy]

hola peetaer, i like that your trying to add more composition but i agree with grenappel about nailing the drawing down first and i think your drawings are progressing very nicely so keep at it, doing small thumbnails first may help in overall composition

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[Peetaer]

Thanx for the tips guys! I'm already rethinking how I'm going to approach this piece, and I've got all the time in the world... muahahahaha!

[Peetaer]

the latest...

[Peetaer]

these are all from imagination...

[the ANGRY filipino]

post#152...seriously good pencil work there man!
and nice to see the effect of the anatomy studies on your sketches from imagination..
Keep it up!

[~*CIN*~]

omfg i love your artwork so amazing!

[gr4f]

niiice work! your pencil renderings and anatomy are on point, looks really good! i also like the masters studies on page 1, those are awesome...can't wait for more!

[gr4f]

niiice work! your pencil renderings and anatomy are on point, looks really good! i also like the masters studies on page 1, those are awesome...can't wait for more!

[Peetaer]

the ANGRY filipino: Thanks man! It's amazing to see improvements so soon.
CIN: Thanks dude!
gr4f: Thank you. Thanx for dropping by.

so i tried go a little outside of the conventions i was getting used to, trying to get back to design work that reminiscent of the stuff i did in college. this took about an hour. really rough impression.

[R&F]

Damn dude you are going like a train there, you are really pushing this anatomy but I got one but where are all the ladies, how can you party without them ladies ;) but seriously I noticed that when I draw to much of male anatomy I tend to lose my touch with the ladies ;) somewhat so I think more diversity would be good. I think that you have anatomy quite well figured out so maybe it's to do this perspective stuff, would be nice to see some excercises, btw. that painting looks interesting. Just my two cents.

cheers

[Eon]

Continuing on what R&F said balance between drawing males and females is important. Whenever we tip to one side, like drawing too many males we then go and draw manly females and vice versa. Definitely true in my case even if I often forget to follow my own advice. Drawing a female for each male is good idea. Your anatomy though is looking terrific. Inspiring man.

The space warrior babe is looking feminine enough. In that piece I suggest to add color to the black space or to the ground plane. It's not necessarily logical but it'll add a lot of personality to the picture. Play with the lighting so that the ground plane is not so uniform green. Lighting is really key for that type of piece or it could end of kinda flat.

Pictures explain it better than I can. Check these out:

http://www.arthistoryarchive.com/arthistory/fantasy/images/FrankFrazetta-A-Fighting-Man-of-Mars-DateUnknown.jpg

http://www.arthistoryarchive.com/arthistory/fantasy/images/FrankFrazetta-Thuvia-Maid-of-Mars-1974.jpg

http://www.galaxypress.com/images/dreamflightshop.jpg

http://www.faberartis.com/fantasy/image.php?anno=1977&page=0&image=5

http://www.faberartis.com/fantasy/image.php?anno=1985&page=0&image=5

[Peetaer]

R&F: Yeah man; you're right. I need more ladies. It's just that most of the anatomy studies (in the books I use) are men. But I need to seek out female anatomy studies. After all, the ladies are where the action is at.

Eon: Damn good point. Don't want no manly looking females (only when its intentional). I must say, I have had some manly looking females in my past sketches.

Thanks again to you both for the insight.

BTW, those pics were really helpful!

[snootchy]

sup Peetaer, dude those non ref anatomy is awesome, i guess those studies are paying off, agree with the 2 above and besides woman have so much nicer S curves!

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Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
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[Peetaer]

snootchy: Thanks. And yes, the curves on women are truly irresistible.

in response to the points by the three of you i have drawn some women. i definitely need to draw more women but i feel like i'm doing a pretty good job so far...

[Peetaer]

these are all from imagination...

[Peetaer]

some bridgeman (except for the lady in the top left corner)...

[snootchy]

dude ur studies are great and they get better everytime! where them portraits at?!

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Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[R&F]

man you really make it hard to keep up with you :D I see you started drawing some chick anatomy, good, the imgainary stuff in #175 remind me Giger's work a bit it would be interesting to see you explore this subject (just a random thought of mine)

cheers

[bleupencil]

The tonal pieces are looking great, and hurrah for girl drawings. Really nice stuff. Do more! The more, the better :D

[Jazz]

Wooow, such expressive figures!! O_O It's great that your getting more women done, too!! Awesome stuff!!

I was going to question the lack of hands (even basic looking mitten hands) on the bodies. I see you have some, though! It's probably good if you put them on more often than not. It'll be great full-body practice for you, too! ^_^ But I only peeked at your latest page, so you may be doing that.

Either way, when I DO see the hands, they look great anyway! XD I love the toned ladies and gentlemen!!

[Eon]

Dude, we're totally doing some Giger themed shit for Halloween. No way we don't do this. I'm telling you early man, lol. Awesome.

[Peetaer]

snootchy: Thank you! Hmmm, a portrait I'll do soon (a self-portrait I'm assuming, no?)
R&F: Dude, you rock for checking back in with me so often. Thanks for the flattering comments. I will keep going strong. Try to catch me! Haha.
bleupencil: Hurrah for girls! Indeed. There will be more ladies on the way!
JazzW: You're very perceptive. Yes, I have been ignoring hands. I also rush heads and feet when I do full body work. There's so much more work lying ahead!
Eon: Giger themed shit it'll be! I love Giger! One of my biggest influences. Let's do some crazy shit...

Okay, so this not quite how I look. I took a photo, liquefied my face and then painted around it.

[New School]

wow you do quite a bit of figure drawing! Not bad at all my friend. I especially enjoyed the muscle studies and even found them a bit useful as well.

Keep it up(and real)

[snootchy]

lol 'the old pimp and the sea' (http://conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=460640&stc=1&d=1221113505) ahahaha! i can see that going many directions most excellent!!

EON you're up next hit us wif the juiciness!

I like the graphic illustration good start for portraits! yea use a mirror or if you're hand gets tired use photo ref (but when u use ref, don't just look at it as a picture but imagine the curves, just like the vilpu approach and then also take a look at where light hits and then falls off to create shadows and forms)

keep at it mang!
SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[D.C.]

Hey man, you're sp is a real acidtrip :). Love the colours. Also awesome studies in the previous posts. Very inspiring.

[the ANGRY filipino]

Man are you as funky psychedelic as your self portrait?

[Peetaer]

New School: Hey dude. Thanks for dropping by and comments. Hope they help you out!
snootchy: Haha, glad you liked it. Yeah, the self-portrait is an edited photo, not my actual face. I'll definitely be using a mirror when I do decide to paint my face!
D.C.: Thanks man! Reminds me of what I did last time I tripped acid; got a bunch of colorful pastel chalk and then went at it on my apartment walls!
the ANGRY Filipino: Yes! And something tells me you're a pretty colorful fella also.

Here's something I working on just a few moments ago...

[Peetaer]

some sketches/doodles from the past two days...

[Peetaer]

some bridgeman studies. these studies have been super helpful!!!

[snootchy]

wow man loving them last few bridgeman studies, nice job!!

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

snootchy: Fuck yeah dude, thanks for dropping by the sketch. Bridgeman has helped so much and he's a fun reference.

One of my first real pieces... Conceptually its weird but that's what came out so I just went with it.

[R&F]

guess who? ;) well damn you impress me with the amount of work (btw. I'm looking into Bridgman and soon will post some shit so beware because I may catch up with you;)), now let see I like that you draw more ladies now but maybe you should make them less Rubens like ;) (but if you prefer it that way than it's ok, it's just my opinion) they look good nonetheless, about that last one it misses some of the things that are in your Bridgman studies, I just can't forgive you that leg in the back ;) it's too short, I like the first in #188, keep it up (although it's hard to imagine that it is possible to do more than you are doing now)

cheers

[bleupencil]

Keep up the good work, Peetaer!

[Peetaer]

Thank you guys for comments. I will give an appropriate response after I return from my week long vacation in NYC. Will be taking my moleskin with me so expect to see some sketches!

Cheers.
See you guys next week!

[A tua mãe]

hey man. just want to say those pencil studies you got on page 6 are sweeeet. and so are these facial studies on this page.

keep on

[grenappels]

wow, a lot of improvement these past few updates :)

[Peetaer]

R&F: Hey dude! Thank you for the encouragement! My ladies need work. Lots of work; and I look forward to working on them more. Yay! Yes, my drawings (from imagination) do still lack a lot of what I am attempting to capture in my studies. That is just a bridge that will be gapped with time. I assure you (and myself of course) that it will be done!

bleupencil: Thank you. Always so nice of you to drop by.

a tua mae: Thank you!

grenappels: Thank you!

More postings will come soon. I really just need a little recuperation from my trip to NYC (and what a great trip it was!).

[brentos8]

cool stuff man but i'm going to be honest, it looks to me like your figures are working well until you get to the legs. I could be wrong but in many of your figures the legs aren't holding up the figure correctly. You've got to think about the weight of the body and how the legs distribute and hold the weight up. many times you can draw a line from the weight bearing foot through the skull to give you an idea of how to approach the pose. Gesture studies and skeletal sketches can help this too, its something we all struggle with. keep it coming , nice stuff

my sketchbook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128243

[snootchy]

nice character concept, i agree with bentos8 on the leg anatomy, i mean for creature/monster concept you can get away with things, such as symmetry or new muscle tones, but the image has a lot of human anatomical resemblance so the legs are throwing the character off a tad, but i like the underlighting, not so sure about the second lighting also coming from the side

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

Here are my latest doodles...

[R&F]

yes doodles, doodles but where are those moleskin sketches from NYC that we were suppose to expect, ha, got you there ;> the crowd demands :D

Cheers

[D.C.]

Great Bridgman studies man. Try to actively think about what you're drawing, how things fit in one another etc when doing those studies and incorporate what you learn from them in your own work. And what's this about moleskine sketches? Are you holding out on us :)?

[Peetaer]

brentos8: Thanks for dropping by the SB! Yes, I do have problems with legs to torso connection (and legs in general). Something, amongst many other things that will be worked on. Thanks for the critique!
snootchy: Thanks dude! Yes, the second lighting doesn't work too well but I was just going with whatever came to mind. This one wasn't exactly thought out. But yes, a more work needed. Off to the drawing boards!
R&F: Haha, thanks for getting on my ass about that. I will post those later tonight (gotta go to work soon).
D.C.: Haha, moleskins will arrive shortly. Happy to hear that you're forward to them. And yes, thinking about what you're drawing is essential; I've noticed that I'm subtly beginning to getter a much better idea of how my mind works that process out.

Sorry, no posts just yet. Got to head off to work first. Will post some tonight! Thanks for all the motivation guys!!!

[Peetaer]

more doodles...

[Peetaer]

one more...

[Eon]

You have a good sense of lighting going on with those heads there, especially the blue one. Kickass studies also!

[snootchy]

gots some nice graffiti style going on in here, i like the change from studies to having fun with the colors and anatomy!!

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[thesadpencil]

hey nice updates here all those bridgman studies are looking really good. keep on doing all those studies and just keep up the good work.

[Peetaer]

snootchy: Thanks for checking in dude. Yes, change is good. If only we could say the same about the electoral system.

thesadpencil: Thanks dude! More study sketches to come soon. I told myself that I was going to finish my sketchbook (paper) before I post again. You'll be seeing much more real soon. I also have to post my NYC sketches.

Here is a coloring doodle I just worked on...

[bleupencil]

Nice doodlin's Peetaer. Where's yo womens at tho?! ;)

[the ANGRY filipino]

Nice doodlin's Peetaer. Where's yo womens at tho?! ;)

yup! what he said!

I want to see more of Peetaer's babes!

[Peetaer]

bleupencil: Thank you. Yes, you're right. I needs mo women.
the Angry filipino: Babes coming soon (next post I swear)! BTW, bleupencil is a she not a he.

Hell yes! I'm on my 8th page!

[Peetaer]

Some lady studies...

First one is from photo references and memory. The second is memory only.

[snootchy]

lol yea shit is hard, but your improving fast and in no time that S curve is going to be silky smoove!

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

snootchy: practice makes perfect, no pain no gain. yeah, shit's coming along so all in all i'm pretty happy with the progress i'm making.

here's some of the sketches i've been working on for the last 2 weeks..

[Peetaer]

more sketches... its a combo of bridgman and imagination... you'll be able to tell which is which...

[Peetaer]

same...

[Peetaer]

last batch...

[snootchy]

the last few pages of portraits has good variation in facial features

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

snootchy: thanks for dropping by and showing support. you're a dedicated SSG 69 member. fuck yeah! focusing on one part of the anatomy at a time has worked wonders thus far. i'm gonna keep doing it until i've completed the bridgman studies book. then i'm gonna do more hogarth and then loomis. it's a grand project and i can't wait i can integrate them all (including my own style!)

here's something i've been working on as practice....

[Peetaer]

here's what came of that...

[snootchy]

nice head studies, i particularly like the face on the top right of the last post, mainly because it has what it needs to show the form, the rendered one is a bit over rendered and i think if you combine the one on the top right with a few strokes rendered and still having the underpainting/construction lines showing it will look less worked over

Keep them rocking updates coming brah!

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

doodle w/ early halloween monster design

[Nwagz]

Bridgmans life drawing is a great book

[BRINKMAN!]

Thanks for stopping by my book, I really appreciate it!

You've got some nice studies happening here! One thing to watch for is the scribbly, searching line that is happening in these. Try to practice more confident, contour-like lines. You can always redraw a line over and over if need be, but it's always best to try to get it right in one fell swoop as opposed to scratching along.

You actually have some really nice, confident lines in the Hogarth studies you did on the first page, so I know it's in you! :)

Keep up the good work!

[Radon_]

WOW!!!!!!!!!
amazing body studies man
i just got into body studies and i dont think i will ever be that good

[snootchy]

nice getting ready for the halloween festives!

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Eon]

Ahh I've got to get crackin' for Halloween. But I think I've an idea on how I'm going to mix it my moods together and create something interesting.

[Autumnal Dream]

I see great improvement in some of your studies. Maybe try to use what you've learned in your studies on your own drawings, because i still see some typical flaws in your non-referenced pictures. But really nice sketchbook so far! Keep at it bro!

cheers

[bleupencil]

Excellent updates Peetaer. Love the Bridgeman renderings.

[wilkerson]

Whoa thats a lot of studies. Pretty good. Thanks for visiting my book.

[Peetaer]

nwags: yes it is indeed.
snootchy: thank you. thanks for checking in so frequently. Keeps me motivated.
eon: yeah man. get crackin! i'm posting some more right now.
radon: thanks for dropping by!
brinkman!: thanks for the tip!
autumnal dream: yes, i think need more from imagination
bluepencil: thank you.
wilkerson: thanks for visiting mine!

[Peetaer]

here's a portrait i'm currently working on...

[katinki]

the bridgeman studies seem to start paying off! the latest portrait has a lot of form (the backlight accentuates that nicely, too)! i don't know if you are going for similarity also, but your version's face is much wider, the nose shorter and the chin too pronounced - but those should be easy fixes.
keep it up!

[Peetaer]

katinki: thank you! thanks for dropping by... again! It's funny, every critique you had I happened to work on before reading your post. Haha!

Here's the latest on the portrait... (I flipped it for proportion)

[grenappels]

it's going well, your intense observation is noticeable and paying off! the chin is still a little flat, his chin is more like Vish (only by a little bit) and then the nose is longer and therefore his mouth is lower too. but i wouldn't really worry about that, as long as it's just for practice, just keep trying to get the lighting right because you're halfway there and the values and colors are very accurate, the most accurate i've seen in your sketchbook yet.

[snootchy]

nice portrait study, i agree with grenappels that this appears to be your best ref, i like how the image comes together with the good color choices and values being pushed and pulled to show form

one note is too not get confused in the rendering and to simplify shapes to get the proportions correct before rendering/detailing things out, no matter how much detail or awesome rendering you throw at it, if the forms or anatomy doesn't read correctly it will stand out in the final picture

great job, i'd really like to see this one pushed the whole nine yards!

SSG 69 :heart: ARTGASMIC FORCE
Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

grenappels: hey dude! nice to hear from you!. thanks for the critique. i'll get workin on that nose after this post.

snootchy: thanks dude! man, you're right about getting those earlier proportions rights because its showing in mine. however, i do like what i seen and can produce thus far. thanks for dropping by!

here's the latest on the portrait... (last before final post)

[Peetaer]

He is complete:

(yeah sure, there's flaws but its definitely the best photo ref painting I've done thus far)

[Peetaer]

Okay, so I'm in a portrait kind of mood lately. Here's a WIP of Christina Milan I've got going. I wanted it to exceed what I had achieved with the Andrew W.K. one.

[bleupencil]

Good work on those last few. The colours are excellent.

[Eon]

Those portraits are very good studies. How long for each? The Christina Milan one would have benefited from using a brush giving flat colors. The texture is interesting in itself but doesn't really work with the super smooth airbrushed spirit of original pic, especially considering how you've already rendered the face in that style (really well). Do check the hair, the sides are actually purple. I don't know that you should worry so much about proportions when doing painting studies, it's really all about learning; colors, light on forms, rendering. Train your eye for proportion when doing drawing and color when doing painting. Eventually you'll get your likenesses. Excellent choice of source pictures as well.

[snootchy]

excellent work on the last one, your eye for getting colors correctly is really good

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Mission: To push our skills to evolve to the point of giving you visual orgasm.
Eon (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107005) l grenappels (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99577) l snootchy (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112991) l Peetaer (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111899) l bleupencil ( http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134180) l D.C. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133502) l jharford (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135098 ) l Droemar (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=134011)

[Peetaer]

Thanks for all the great feedback guys, especially Eon's (thanks for the perspective).

Based off of your feedback I'm sensing that I'm actually doing something wrong when it comes to the colour aspect of my last two portrait studies. Correct me if I'm wrong but should be "eyeing" the colours of portrait that I'm mimicking? See what I'm actually doing right now is simply using the eye dropper, getting the color from the photo and then painting what I see as I go back and forth. I'm basically trying to copy the picture as best as I can.

Am I making a mistake by doing so? By mistake I mean, am I limiting myself?

[grenappels]

congrats on your best ref copy yet! i really wanna finish my ref painting too but i think im gonna be too busy this weekend.
anyway, about eyedropping being limiting--i think thats kindof like asking if you're limiting yourself by using training wheels when you first start riding a bike... yes it's limiting but it's a very handy learning device. but you really have to pay attention to what colors you're getting--how light/dark, how saturated and what hue. and try guessing the color first, then picking, to see how off you are. then again painting from life would probably teach you the most lessons in figuring out colors...

oh and when i guess what color is there i like to take that color and paint a spot over the area i was seeing in the ref picture to see if the spot just blends in, if it does i picked it right
hope that helps :)

[pen-paper-renegade]

You got a serious training going in here ^^ liked to see you posting the development of your digi paintings step by step...and it turned out really good congrats bro

[Peetaer]

grenappels: Thank you! Thank you! Your words are motivating and very helpful. Putting the use of the eyedropper into perspective really helps a lot!

pen-paper-renegade: Firstly, cool name dude. Secondly, thank you for dropping by and taking your time to comment on my progress. And yes, I will keep posting my steps in the photo ref painting process.

I will post a picture soon!

[Peetaer]

Here's the latest version of the Christina Milan portrait. So far I've spent about 5 hours on it...

[Izu]

Yo, nice stuff here man! Your anatomical studies seem to have paid off if you go from page 1 and forward. Nice improvement.
The portraits seem to go well too.
I noticed the head of the girl could be more tilted to the left and her nose and lips a bit thinner though.

Keep it up! :assspank:

[Peetaer]

Izu: Thanks man! Thank you for stopping by. Yes, my version of her is definitely off. What I've noticed that I've done in the past is that I'm unconsciously painting aspects of my own physical identity into the portrait. I just need to practice more and more.

Here's the latest on her. I'm gonna leave her to rest for a while. She'll be finished soon but I really want to practice some more Bridgman.

[Eon]

Thanks for all the great feedback guys, especially Eon's (thanks for the perspective).

Based off of your feedback I'm sensing that I'm actually doing something wrong when it comes to the colour aspect of my last two portrait studies. Correct me if I'm wrong but should be "eyeing" the colours of portrait that I'm mimicking? See what I'm actually doing right now is simply using the eye dropper, getting the color from the photo and then painting what I see as I go back and forth. I'm basically trying to copy the picture as best as I can.

Am I making a mistake by doing so? By mistake I mean, am I limiting myself?

Definitely! As much as drawing is about seeing lines and values, painting is about perception of colors. When you paint you trick the viewer's eye to identify something symbolic using colors, or in other words, how lights falls and affets a particular surface and it's form.

So... do not use the color picker. Learn how to use colors to trick the eye into perceiving what you want it to perceive. I'm sure you've seen paintings where with a few but well chosen brushstrokes your eye accurately percieved what was meant to be depicted. Painting is about putting the right colors next to each other, using these to create the illusion of form. You're not painting a rose but rather the different colors of each surface. It's a tapestry that you put together. The rose is not red . It's red, dark red, pink, purple,brown, blue, light blue, etc all put together and you then recognize the symbolic rose. But it's only colors next to each other.

You're cheating yourself of that learning experience. And it's the only way to learn painting. If you don't learn to properly observe all you were doing is learning how to render (which is fine when that is your goal). You can learn to see from photographs but it's not as true as learning from life. Color picking from photographs is even worse because photography adjusts itself to depict light (losing and modifying infomation) and you're learning from this limited adjustment. So do still lives, carefully observe your objects and you'll get this principle. Look all around you and see how everything single object is a tapestry of colors. No orange is "orange".

Check out Zhuzhu's sketchbook. He really understands the principle of painting.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=70451