Comics Start-up!

[Ilaekae]

I'm putting this here because most of the discussion has been in this section so far. If it's not appropriate here, would one of the mods be kind enough to move us where we belong?



CA has Concept-oriented community activities for creatures (COW), environments (EOW), characters (CHOW), industrial design (IDW), and random lunacy (3CH), but until now, there hasn't been a specific equivalent for Comics. That will change the first week of January when we launch ...ummm...damn... we don't have a name yet, but trust us...it'll be in all caps...and it won't smell like a damn Muppet. It's gonna be ugly, it's NOT gonna be a walk in the park, and you will probably cry a lot. Hell! What else could you want?!?

We (Ilaekae and llothcat, so far) will be establishing a weekly/bi-weekly "competition" and learning experience for those who might be interested in sequential comics, and comics in general. We'll be dealing with design issues, coloring, pencil and inking, lurid prose, layout, character development, environments and genres, and all the neato stuff that makes life worth getting up for when you can't read real words but like lookin' at the pitchurs anywayz...

This thread is the official thread for any and all discussion on this majestic foray into the unknown, and all suggestions, comments, and phone numbers of cute younger sisters (or brothers, as the case may be) will be appreciated.

First assignment: What the hell are we gonna call this thing? The discussion is now open.

We also want input on what you think we should be doing. We'd like to keep the events to WEEKLY as much as possible, with the possibility of a few extending to an additional week or two where it makes sense.

[Grief]

thanks for taking the initiative, i look forward to what the community makes of this endeavor.

what about...?
Sequential Art Weekly
S.A.W.

Panel And Comic Medium Art Network
P.A.C.M.A.N

Comic's Understanding New Thread
C.U.N..... uhm maybe not.

[Brendan N]

I'm voting for a 2-week deadline, no page limit but a recommended of 5 or so pages. If you submit far less, it better be damn well justified. Also, very very vague concepts, like 'Fatigue,' or '2 am.'

if we go with the bi-weekly deadline, the logical naming would be F.U.C.K.
Fortnightly Unpublished Comic Kompetition


Other idea of mine is to extend the deadline to 4 weeks, make it a bigger deal and end up publishing it in a book that would be available like the T-Shirts or Calender. Only the best, of course.

Dunno what it would be called, though.

[kev ferrara]

COM-BAT (Comics Battle)

3 pages of script provided (without finished dialogue or panel breakdowns, leaving folks with the freedom to tell the story in their own way)

Grade on storytelling, stylistic consistency, drawing skills and wow factor.

[JonZ_]

thanks for taking the initiative, i look forward to what the community makes of this endeavor.

what about...?
Sequential Art Weekly
S.A.W.

Panel And Comic Medium Art Network
P.A.C.M.A.N

Comic's Understanding New Thread
C.U.N..... uhm maybe not.

LOL, almost as good than Film Actors Guild.

[alice_]

I'm suggesting 3 page stories on a general or specific theme.. like uhh.. loneliness or something involving tightrope walking elephants (obviously neither of those things should ever be the actual theme). Three pages is plenty for a short story and not a heinous amount of drawing to do in one week.

I don't really mind how it all goes down though, I'll probably participate no matter what.

SAW is an appealing acronym.

[idoru]

I like SAW, as an acronym.

I like the bi-weekly (or longer) approach, with more, completed work due. It's more of a challenge, and isn't that what this IS? A challenge?

[GHill]

Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this! It'll be something to look forward to after I've been beaten and mangled in the LMS tournament.

How bout SOW (Sequence Of the Week)? Already have a cow, so maybe throw a pig into the mix.

I like the 3 page idea. It would be cool if the structure changed every other week. The first week would be with a somewhat structured script and the next week could be an open topic like alice_ mentioned. I think you would gain some knowledge about sequential art you may not have thought about from the structured challenge and then apply what you learned to the open challenge the following week, and so on.

[wiggum]

I like SAW as the acronym,
bi-monthly or monthly time limits
three page minimum, no max
fairly vague stories, no scripts.

Well that is what I would like to see, but who cares what I think?

[eskanto]

SAW reminds me of the horror movies they have out.

[smugbug]

SAW reminds me of the horror movies they have out.

First thing that came to my mind, too.

Who thought of that POW acronym? What I like about POW is it reminds me of comic books and, of course, the old Batman series. Heh.

[Brendan N]

SAW reminds me of the horror movies they have out.

same here....

I like POW but then it's a prisoner of war doing ... pomics of the week? or pequentials of the week? What does the P represent?

[Zaxser]

It has to be Panels of the Week.

POW!

Anyone think of any other comic onomatopoeia acronyms that'd work?

[SigonWulf]

SAW reminds me of the horror movies they have out.

Same here, I suggest finding another name that way I don't think of some crappy horror series.

[Grief]

well i guess i win for not having seen those movies.

Challenge Of Comics Kompetition?
C.O.C.K
i can just imagine" "this week we have a particularly hard CoCK theme...."

fine fine, i'll stop being needlessly vulgar.
Comic Art Thread.
C.A.T.
simple.

conceptart new thread sequential art comic kompetition mega elimination
C.A.N.T. S.A.C.K. M.E.
not so simple...

weekly art sequential panels
W.A.S.P.
...no not white anglo-saxon protestants

Weekly Themed Comics
W.T.C
oh come on it's not 'too soon'

Comic Lovers Intense Challenge Kompetition
C.L.I.C.K.
wasnt that the name of a bad Adam Sandler movie? didnt see it, but i can safely assume it was bad.

Kompetition For Comics
K.F.C
the colonel is break dancing!

weekly recreational experimental comics kompetition
W.R.E.C.K

grief's acronyms get him overly groaned
G.A.G. H.O.G

[Emerald_Mara85]

Err... I'll go with SAW or CAT.

I vote for the 3 page comic too! Can be every week or 2 weeks!

[bhanu]

Grief you now have officialy too much time on your hand..

[DannySketch]

P.O.W has my vote works on many a level, i hope this idea takes off

[Ilaekae]

Why not just call it "POW!" (with an exclamation point) as an homage to comics? There's no rule that says it has to be an acronym...

[Justin.]

S.O.W.

Sequential Of the Week.

Fits really well with COW, I think :D (A sow is a baby pig if I'm not mistaken)

[Ilaekae]

Sequential/Comic of the Week (SCOW) Covers us if we don't have a literal sequential? We could have the Muppet as an anchor...

[Favila]

You could also make a Comic Cover of the week, and make a cover for the last winner of the sequential of the week :D or something like that

[smugbug]

Still liking POW! - has a nice ring to it.

[Arish]

I like POW or CAT, but SOW works too. Grief cracks me up. :D

[sciboy]

POW! is a definite winner. Looking forward to seeing this start.
Although SCOW, SOW works too, really I don't mind what you call it, I just want to participate.

[Qitsune]

I don't care about the name, if it's not too many pages, I'm in. We could even have a defined format and publish them as PDF anthologies...

[Dizon]

Great idea, cuz I've been thinking about doing some webcomics in the future.

[bhanu]

I think POW! sounds great...

[tensai]

POW! - definitely.

[wheezy]

Very cool idea. Thanks. Will be looking for updates.

[DIMAGYAN]

looking forward for this activity.
about the name i like more the ones with the sequential word as part of it.
pow is to much batman i think (nothing bad with that, but is too represenatational of certain types of comics)
in any case every name has potential, and the important thing is have the activity. so thanks for the effort, and time you put in this.

[HunterKiller_]

I like POW, although it would be nice to have a witty acronym...

Can't wait to get started on this.

[TheGnoll]

"POW!" sound good to me, and its definately an interesting idea.Where did all this comics discussion start anyway, cause since thats what i study its one thing i was hoping to find in CA for a long time...but wy restrict the comics thing to only a challenge? i think an additional sub-forum would be cool (instead of opening useless non-art related ones.
If this is a bad idea, can anybody link some really really good comics online communities?

ciao

[smugbug]

If this is a bad idea, can anybody link some really really good comics online communities?

ciao

Pssst, I just go to this site (besides here) for art/comic related discussions:
Gaijin Studios/forum (http://www.gaijinstudios.com/forums/index.php?sid=b220e574e8917d1bef8e8c0a4cb50ca7)

A few of the members there are members here, too.

[Matsign]

The penciljack (http://www.penciljack.com/forum/) forums has some cool community projects like this going on, check the link but I'll support CA's version, too.

[Cookiedough]

I'm interested in this activity as well. PJ is a good resource indeed, but CA definitely could use some attention for this. Hope to see some action here soon.

[sujen]

This is exciting news! I would prefer the time limit to be one week vs. 2 with a minimum of three pages--I think would be a good challenge period for some solidly finished pages. Alsoooo... sub-forum would be nifty for all of those juicy tidbits (e.g. character design, coloring,penciling..etc)! ;D

[Dizon]

I'm interested in this activity as well. PJ is a good resource indeed, but CA definitely could use some attention for this. Hope to see some action here soon.

Thanks for the PJ link. That site has lots of information regarding comic making.

[Ilaekae]

Thanks for the link, Matsign.

To keep everybody aware of what's going on, I'm making up a list of possibilities for assignments and ways to approach it so I can get together with llothcat for her input and guidance, and to have more than one week set up when we start this.

[Jens]

I'm also for POW!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/CSBG/batman_dark_tomorrow_pow.jpg

[JL.Alfaro]

Im so in, shes gagging.

how many pages? I hope no more than two, cause I just wouldn't have time with work, kid, misses, AA etc.

[Qitsune]

Im so in, shes gagging.

Gross.

[Victor B]

this sounds exciting I'll be keeping my ear to the grindstone for further devolopments

[mrhugecojones]

Let me think of a few names....


The Society of Comic Endeavors (S.C.E.)
Dissociative Image Endevors (D.I.E.)
Lets Talk Comics (L.T.C.)
The Comics Weekly battle (C.W.B.)
The Comics Matrix Society (C.M.S.)
Bring It All For Comics (B.I.A.C.)
The Comics Sect (T.C.S.)
The Comics Cult (T.C.C.)
The Pure Underground Sore Society of Youths (P.U.S.S.Y)
The Comics Crusaders (C.C.)
The Concept Art Comics Syndicate (T.C.A.C.S.)
The Boys and Girls 4 Comics Society (B.G.4.C.C.)
4 Comics (4.C.)

Those are from the top of my head, more to come.

[Ilaekae]

S&S--Sequentials and Strips

CACA--CA's Comic Art

AWW--Art With Words

CACACA or CA3--CA's Comics and Captioned Art

CAPE--Comic Art Page Exercises

POW!--Piss On Witty!

MUPPET BASHERS--Many Uplifting Painted Pages Executed Timely By Artists Sweating Hard Every Realistic Scene

CAW!--Comic Art Work

TYKE--The Yellow Kid Experiment
(This is an homage to what is probably considered the first true colored strip)

SAP--Strips and Pages

SAS--Strips And Sequentials

PULP--Page Upon Lovely Page...

[love Rx]

Im so in, shes gagging.


lyrics for a song perhaps?


anyways It would make me a happy panda if CA had its own comic thing going on. I for one would love to participate. comics are nifty.


I think aww is a good name. it has a rather cute ring to it. awwwwwww


A.W.W.

art with words it is.

[Brendan N]

Pow!!

[AmericanHardcore86]

Awesome. I'm really excited for this.

[chaosrocks]

sounds like fun
hollar if you need a mod in your pocket
crx

[Ilaekae]

Love of my Life, I always need a Mod in my pocket. And embarrassing polaroids to keep them there. Otherwise I would have been out on my ass a long time ago...

Are you volunteering? If so, welcome to the circus.... :sungod: :yayca:

[arttorney]

G.N.A.T.S.
Graphic novels are the shiznit!

[Farvus]

About one year ago I was very enthusiastic towards creating my first comic project. I wrote short story, designed characters and so on. The problem was that I expected too much and overshot myself. It ended really quickly and I realised it would be better for beginning to just do some simple and super short stories or even parts of the stories/single situations. I think this kind of activity could be good for something like that. Two or three pages just to get ready for bigger stuff and not worry too much. Not enough for drawing an developed story but to me it could be more fun than racing against time.

[Whitevillage]

I think this is a great oppertunity for this community, since creating comics is an art on it's own. I'll sure make use of it, I love graphically story telling a lot.

POW is good. ;)

[Fozzybar]

Glad, i saw that shit...if i weren't checking the lounge for cheap porn links again i would have missed that...






oh and btw: now this has capitals and muppet smell in it...

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[Costau D]

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[Ilaekae]

Damn straight, Monkey Boy! :P

[Fozzybar]

i don't understand what he says in the video...even if he says it like 12854 times

[Brendan N]

POW! Right in tha kisser!

[JonZ_]

Pow... wow... http://www.p1x44r.com/smiles/bleh.gif

[Jack the R]

I'll lurk if it's a competition type thing. Between pages I'm paid to do, and pages I do for myself, there's no room for other pages. If I can work my own pages in though, it would be cool.

Perhaps, instead of being given a scene to illustrate, we should all be starting off from step 1 of Scott McCloud's 6 step process, and coming up with our own ideas. Then show how we reasoned through each of the 6 steps to get our final result.

[Ilaekae]

Nice to have you lurking, Jack. When it's finally off the ground, feel free to jump in with comments when the urge hits you, which I hope will be often...

[grabbyninja]

Just what I've been looking for. Lurking around for over a year got lonely : (

POW -.-

I'm looking forward to this!

[ASRA]

What I would like to read in the "POW!"-Forum is:

- calendar with all the interesting comic events, international
- new editions worth reading
- tutorials
- search for artists (szenarists/drawers)

[Jack the R]

Maybe I could post layouts instead of finished pages. "Readability" is my biggest problem anyway.

[Lotet]

lawl, ppls names for this is just hilirius and awezome ^^


anyhow, just wanted to say that this isa terrrific idea,
I LOVE IT!!

[SillyLing]

I'll love to join in... but are we going to get this off the ground or what?

[Ilaekae]

Nobody ever reads the intial announcement on page one, do they...

Yes, it's going to happen. Yes, it will get off the ground. BUT...it will not happen (as previously noted) until AFTER January 1, so it doesn't interfere with the holidays and the LMS3 competition...which I intend to win hands down, btw...

This is a long term project, and it requires a lot of preparatory work so it starts off running at full gallop. That is going on now...

I now return you to your normal cruising of the lounge...thank you for your attention and please note our advertisers and sponsors on the way out or they won't let us in here anymore... :P

[sousterrains]

POW(! with or without exclamation, pref with) is my favourite
CAT is mice, too
nice, even.
or SOW
but POW! is it, really

[Qitsune]

Yes, it's going to happen. Yes, it will get off the ground. BUT...it will not happen (as previously noted) until AFTER January 1, so it doesn't interfere with the holidays and the LMS3 competition...which I intend to win hands down, btw..You intend to win the whole competition by January 1st? Is there something we should be aware of? 3 more rounds in 24 hours weee!

[Ilaekae]

This is a duplicate post from the Comic Name poll, so that everyone will get a chance to see it...


The pissants have spoken and the new comic competition will henceforth be referred to as P.O.W.! I will ask Davi to set up our disgusting little pen at his convenience in the appropriate place so we can begin our first activity on Wednesday, January 2, 2008.

We (llothcat and I, and a few others) will use the time between now and then to establish a set of guidelines that will be impossible to follow, a series of initial exercises in advance that no one will be able to do on time (to make sure we're covered for at least a few weeks til things get rolling), and all that other good stuff. We will also probably establish a sub-set of threads for comics discussion (technique, tools, maybe some tutorials, and skill development), useful links, and other such necessary evils.

P.O.W.! will follow the style of the other challenges, with MOST of the challenges going one week each more or less, and strict rules for finish and acceptance for voting. Voting will be done by any and all members of the forum, and we will try to make special arrangements for those here who cannot read, write, count, are in a permanent coma or may be Muppets.

This will not be a challenge for the weak of heart. We are going to push for the most professional work you can produce, on a professional schedule, using professional clocks, calendars, and linear measuring devices. The challenge will be open to ANYONE who is a member of the CA Forum, whether you have cooties from other places or not.

Take some time to practice your skills, enjoy the holiday(s) of your choice, and just plain relax, because on January 2nd, your asses belong to me...you poor poor sniveling little sods...


and Qitsune...

"You intend to win the whole competition by January 1st? Is there something we should be aware of? 3 more rounds in 24 hours weee!"

Of course! The really stressful part is trying to second guess the subjects that Cody will come up with, and between the drugs, booze, and coffee, I should be able to psychically pull that off easy... :P

[sousterrains]

CART
Has anyone suggested CART yet?
I think that could be brill, too, short for Comic ART, for it i s an art and most of all comics are very much a vehicle to transport messages.
Would be happy to hear your thoughts on this one.

[sousterrains]

oh, silly me, too late, should have bothered to read the last post before mine.

[xenos]

i was bored and came to check out what's happening here at conceptart.org. Im glad i did. This is gonna be like super Awesome!
And the timing for this comic challenge wouldn't be better, Jan 1, that's the day I become unemployed! From then on, I'll have all the time i need :D


About the challenge: I was thinking that the challenges should mostly be a week long, but occasionally they could be longer. Like 2 or 3 weeks. But then the page/panel count would have to be higher.
Also on some week we would be required to draw like only 1 or 2 pages, but the pages would have like 15 (or more) panels each. While on another week we would draw 5-6 pages, but each page would only have like 2-3 panels. Also on some week we might have to draw a silent comic, but it would still have to convey all the emotions and stuff..
As for what i would like to draw (or try to), would be; horror, car chase, sword fight, underwater and maybe some week.. dare i say it.. something erotic :P
Also i think that it would be helpful, if on some challenges the protagonist was a child or really old or an animal. I at least, draw rarely children or old people, and i don't believe I'm the only one with this problem :S

[Ilaekae]

See the thread "P.O.W.! BEGINS..." elsewhwere in this section...

You guys are so observant that sometimes I wonder how most of you made it this far without being eaten by a tree... :P

[xenos]

Ilaekae - heh, i know, i still kick my ass for not noticing early enough that the Last Man Standing III competition was starting.. i would have wanted to join the mayhem too! :(