Demo's Digital Damsels

[Pigeonkill]

I never understood about the twist and turns of the torso well until I studied bridgemen. I think you got it!

That's great you are experimenting with skin tones. Even if the skin tones happen to be different from your own skin value while you paint. You can always take mental notes on those color combinations for other projects.

[JailHouseRock2]

Good work of late man!

The self portraits are going good. Nice sense of light you've got going on, and the brush strokes are sweet as!

And great Bridgman studies as well, fantastic rhythm and your lines are looks awesome!

Keep at it mate,
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[Ananda C]

Wow, there is some dramatic improvement in this thread.

These last portraits look ok, although it seems (correct me if I'm wrong) like you start them on one area and work from there... you could get better proportions if you got the shape of the head, the perspective and the place of the features down first.

Your portfolio looks awesome =)

[Demo]

Amanda C Thanks Amanda thats really helpful i feel like sometimes i can get the features down but over all the shape of the head still confusedness me :ore: Ill try working painting the head all at once instead of focusing on one area and working out :hugsmile:

JailHouseRock2Thanks :asspat:

Pigeonkill Thank u Pigeon although im getting good color sense from doing these portraits i still don't think its helping the cionstruction process so perhaps ill have to look else where to figure that out.

Btw i love all the work your doing in your SB

MitzeThankl u :asskisser:

Grandmassa Mr. Spect TTTTTHHHHAAAAANNNKKKSSSS im glad to here people are looking through the whole book :asslick:

pijus Yes Pijus youve discoverdmy true identity BLAST! :oneye:
thanks for the crit iv been working on lots of studies of my head to figure out proportions but lost most in painter crashes .. although i still have some loomis stuff to show =)

sooo here it goes again
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and i finally finished painting my engine and putting it all back together Demos mobile once more
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Finaly an update, awesome sketch book pages and anatomy studies, keep up with loomis, it helps alot, I know it helped me. Maybe try shading those heads after linework (even if its not shaded in loomis drawings) it will help you understand and memorize planes better. Well it helps me. Keep up. Ill be waiting for another update.

[wild thing]

got some cool studies! the little bits of watercolour and marker really add something else :)
the anatomy studies are sharpening up for sure, youve made a lot of progress
keep it up! :D

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wild thingThanks :rocker:

pijusyes sorry for being lazy.....again
I'm gonna try to update almost every day again
so don't let me slack, i know that Loomis is great
on helping you improve but if theirs any thing
more boring then studying Loomis i don't know what it is
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i love your last enviroment
so im gonna work on that untill i can kick your but.....
wana make things intresting???
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A snneeeek peak of an extended sp im going to work on
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[P]

Loomis, boring? make it interesting, use markers, watercolour, chocolate, other mediums, different kind of paper, draw on wood ;D , draw with oposite hand, dont know, just make it fun :D ywah man study environs and landscapes :D thats what im doing right now, Im upsesed with it after buying all Whit Brachnas downloads, damn hes awesome :D
good studies man, I see you having fun with it, and great landscapes ;D i think Ill upload my thumbnails soon too.

[Hookswords]

Dude, I really like where your life drawing is going. The angular style merging with a loose softer style is really nice. Reminds me a little of the old masters. It's cool to see how far you've come by going through your sketchbook. Keep it up and thanks for swinging by mine! I left you a link for some more tilt shift stuff so come on over when you're bored and want to give your eyeballs a journey.

[Pigeonkill]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=730596&d=1248292299

I like how this one is going. I wouldn't mind a nice castle on top of the hill along with people. The small stair like structures at the base caught my eye a bit.

That's a sweet looking engine and yummy reference material.

It took me a while to get into Loomis too. What got me even more interested in his work is when I read that Loomis was told to go home from art school because they felt he wasn't good enough. He turned around and worked hard not only to prove to he could do it, but share his knowledge to improve the industry.

[Demo]

Pijus :O ill get right on that Loomis study in chocolate, and i also got Whits downloads on environments i was a little disappointed to see that non of em were that concepty but their still really cool and valuable to learn from. im really not enjoying my enviroments..or really much of any of my digital work soo far its all so far from being what i want it il tryto explain more in my next post.

Hookswords thanks its getting better but i still have lots to learn. i loved all those photos i think its completly amazing i also saw a you tube video that was doe in the same style it was worth a look at if i see it all drop t in ur book.

Pigeonlol id work on that more but it was just a small study and it served its purpose i think those are rice pattys btw. and thanks iv also read that about Loomis im not saying hes not god or anything but it seems like his stuff dosnt have much expression or anything dynamic going on with it but still ill pick it back up

Heres a painting i started on. mainly set up the composition.blocked in the color and i started going back and putting all the buildings back in 3d AND sent them into photoshop because my line work wasn't adequate ..ummm iv got along way to go and i need to figurer out this female figure and get the skin tone right.
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[a la bapsi]

OOH can't wait to see that wip finished, very promising stuff. :D
nice studies, keep em coming

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Thanks Bapsi its going slow but ill let u know when its all fin

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Worked on making lots of componets to add to my 3d library too =)
ill post later of coarse also with my Bridgman's studies they take longer to upload
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Updates ...
Sorry pijus i pretty much give up on the Environment challenge .. looks like u beat me by about a week anyways

Heres the few i finished :(
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and i spent too much time on this one.
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and i taught myself a little sketchup an kerkythea soo heres What i made so far thanks every one :)
o its an imperial shuttle
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[P]

those studies look nice, great that you did reflection practice on the last one, was fun to paint that one for me too. now make some landscapes from imagination to apply what you learned and dont spend too much time in sketchup, keep your pencil and other stuff skills sharp too ;)

[Pigeonkill]

*Sirens*

"This is the Do-More-Andrew-Loomis-Study-Police, put your hands down and start drawing!"

Just joking. I actually I need to do some Andrew Loomis Studies tonight >.>


It would be neat if you finished the Environment challenge, the tree one is my favorite.

[Demo]

Once again sorry for not keeping this up to date, Moving to Art school has been a weird adjustment, and Iv gotten a lot less studying done then studying by myself. Ill post some school work when it starts looking good. :P

Pijus Thanks XD I'm getting a lot less digital time so pencil studies all the wayyyyyy :mod:

PigeonKill :(
i sorry, have have neglected the Loomis, but i think ill try to make it through Bridgman guides to the head before i start Loomis again. Ill Check out ur SB later tonight After HW
Thanks

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and once again once iv posted it it looks like crap...

[P]

I see youve improved your pencils, and a fine selfportrait you did there, good that you still find time to update your sb. good luck on your art school and work hard mate ;)

[jatherip]

you should do some practices on how to place the eyes....oh, btw awesome brushwork in your selfportraits!
keep practicing!

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jatherip Most defiantly, its a huge problem I'm having, and i think once i get it i could really move a step forward with my portrait work. thanks :assspank:

Pijus Thanks mate, yeah were getting busy hopefully everything is going good with you. well talk soon give me a time when u think you'll be free so we can catch up.

Well art school really sucks so far if had to deal with, robbery's, shootings, harassment, and probably anything else you can think of, why cant people just focus on their art instead of hatred. Despite all the crap Iv got a few god professors and their really diving in to the basics of art so hopefully that works out.


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Paintings One in the process, the landscape was for master piece in a day and i think i did really well for working 3-4 hours plain air. for kind of the first time with Acrylic..
Remember Painting in the direct sunlight in 90 degree weather will bake the acrylic on to your pallet super fast.
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Charcoal drawing.. right now mainly focusing on proportion, composition and of coarse everything else.
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Thanks all. :lifedrawing:

[Pigeonkill]

Oh man I hate using charcoal. I love the high contrast and dark, dark...but the mess it makes.

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I'm not sure what's going on here in this one drawing. Is that hair on top of cloth or hay?

Keep focusing on your art and hopefully the bad crowd at your school won't bother you. Be sure to carry a can of pepper spray if they do : ) It's good your professors make it worth while.

[Demo]

Finally Iv gotten 5 minutes to upload some stuff heres a small portion of stuff if worked on the past few weeks
Thanks for the reply Pigeonkill yeah every things sorted itself out now ..but im leaving this school soon so :P on all of them.

Lets see some sketches on anatomy, museum studies, compositional studies and what have you
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Negative and positive studies, and one with a different keytone in B/W
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Funny how I'm at an art school and iv only got to spend 1 hour in a figure drawing session...anyone else find something wrong with that??????
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And self portrait work their in order soo look for progress
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[Jazz]

Hi, Demo! Wow, you have some really good portraits going! Also, still-lifes of the sneakers are fantastic--they look like they're coming off the page! I like that!

Very nice pencil work, I must say. :D

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Jazz Hay jazz thanks for the :assspank: I checked out your book and liked what I was seeing.

Portrait sukkieness


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[Shadow Stalker]

Sweet stuff man! I like the life drawings a lot.

[Pigeonkill]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=829749&d=1258239646

I like how your strokes in your pencil work have a lot of energy. It reminds me of one of my favorite music videos. Hope it gives you inspiration:

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My only other suggestion on your portraits is that some of your eyes a bit stylized. They seem to be missing the upper an lower lid?

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Pigeonkill Thank you. I don't know about energy though some of the gesture pieces have good strokes but my longer pieces all are way to systematic and i really hate it. and yeah the eyes I have a good amount of trouble with eyes the upper lid thing well my eyes are really deep set and you cant see the upper lid at all Ill post a picture next reply . :assspank:

Thanks Shadow how about that class huuu good stuff!!

Well heres a few of the photo studies i did of landscapes their terrible Im really struggling with these : (
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and 3d play in sketchup!!!!
I like sketchup!!!
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Any one has any questions about any thing in these models let me know Their pretty easy to setup

[P]

What the fuck happened in here, youve been updating? i havent been here since ages. dude......... you have improved alot, is it the school influence you? You keep rockin! I wish we could talk on skype.

[Pigeonkill]

The conceptart.org police are coming O_o better update soon.

[Demo]

Thanks for the replies Pijus? and PiegonKill
Ill reply with more tomorrow my computers all buggy
and its taken me like 2 hours just to get these
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Heres my first attempt at oils
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And heres an unfinished portrait for my drawing1 final a few months back
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I Back Pigeonkill, And pijus what happened to your name, and no artschool didn't effect me not positively anyway. but Im done with that place and hopefully attending TAD in a year or 2.
And in other news iv got a new SSG starting up!!

Sketchbook pages
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Hers a bigger and better picture of my drawing final
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And Oil paintings
The one below is done. its my first :P
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Heres the setup for my next its got to be drawn perfectly proportional this time with an object touching each of the sides but not going over
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[Pigeonkill]

I never painted with too much oils. I used water water soluble ones before, they are nice. Easier for clean up and less chemicals. One techique that was taught to me was painting a thin coat of burn sierra or burnt umber on the canvas and then wipe away the high lights with cloth. So you end up using less paint. I assume it be done with normal oils or any other color.

The car perspective is looking to me. I think the TAD is nice but also some mix reviews.

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Sorry for the delay I gots a new painting computer so I had to download all my software and a friend had my photoshop disks so it took a while to get emm back.

here we go big dump.
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Heres some still lifes done in painter because no photoshop..i dont like painter i never could get my colors true.
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Heres some still lifes previously done in photoshop after i did the small can one i re thought the approch and looked at how Hanns and Jan do theirs and tryed the same.
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Land Scape Studies

same problem with painter
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Faces not easy painter :(
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Heres some Oil Paintings the first is my last still life
it looks kind of dull but the close up shows its colors are really cool
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Heres a big painting iv been working on for a while its an ongoing process and im running on little time. Hopefully it sells
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If any one wants to see the process shots bigger let me know i have lots of photos of the process.
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thats where i am now

and heres what im starting on while finishing the other master study
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[Blizzard5291]

Thanks for the comment on my sketchbook. I'm so impressed with all of the improvement you have made! Keep it up!

[Dizon]

Hey Demo! Thanks for posting a comment on my sb. :)

Sweet sketches. I particularly like the architecture/perspective stuff. Your Sketch up work looks nice, too. I need to learn that myself. The still life master study is lookin' sweet. Good luck on that.

See ya around!

[ModestMouse]

your improvement is scary, in a good way. "faces not easy painter :(" thats a kick ass drawing

[Pigeonkill]

Your master painting is close, I think in the original they used slightly warmer colors on the cloth.

[Kvick]

You've got some good effort going into these studies. Remember to stick with the basics and keep how you think of everything really simple. In your speedpaints of environments I'd really recommend you slow down and really spend a few hours and try to understand whats going on with the light in the pictures. When you first learned how to shade basic spheres im sure you didn't do a whole bunch of really sloppy ones, you have to take the time to understand it first, and then you grind on it. Keep working at it, it'll get easier.

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Kvick Thanks for the sound advice. yeah i probably need to spend more time on the enviroments then again the ones l posted I spent a few hours but i went through the process of going back and forth between the painting the colors and the drawing for a couple of hours couldnt really get any thing right. But that just means more practice on all fronts. :assspank:

PigeonkillYeah I just started so its like 90% not done but ill keep that in mind Piegeon ;)

ModestMouse Thanks Modest I really hate painter right now but its nice to know we find some-sort of peace treaty

DizonThanks Dizon sketchup with a rendering program is really fun to work with as Ferris beuller would say " It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

Blizzard Thanks!! I hope to make more

Lets see Sketch book pages I have a pretty big book here that im going to dedicate to starting some conceptual characters and more studies on bigger paper. :)
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Heres where im at with my oil Painting
sorry I couldnt get better pics
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Blizzard Thanks!! I hope to make more

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Sketchbook pages
Yeah thats what happens during quantitative class. I have problems drawing heeads from life using the loomis method
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[Evolvana]

I see you like using different medias, that's great :) I can see a good evolution in your paintings and sketches, I will follow your work!

[Onisan]

very creative paintings, I agree with Evolvana on the point with the different media. Very good example for oneself.

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WIP for this weeks Chow
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Ill reply with more in a day or two after I finish this up and ill post some videos hopefully with some interesting info for those who check em out.

[cgaddict]

Your linework is very, very sexy. Great studies here, very inspirational.

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Thanks CGAddict Line weight just seems to get eeasier in time.

Heres my CHOW entrey Ill post alot more steps and info about it later on.
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[Parsakoira]

yes, these are very nice! lovely pencil rendering skills!

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Parsakoira thanks!!

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The last small environment thumbnails turned into this

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And heres some other painting and modeling work.
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[Sonia Leticia]

Heya Demo!! :D I love how you use so many mediums, and you use them all really well! You have so much going on I don't know what to comment on first! lol It's all great. I really like your oil paintings and renderings.
On the poll I voted anatomy/bone studies because I think that that's what you can benefit from most. I'll stop on by later ;)

[Dorkthrone]

I like that you're using a lot of mediums. I would personally work on your line use. Your figures tend to be a little flat.

[odiolitos]

Hi there!

Man, i totally feel your pain: I went to art school too, and I just wish I'd had more live drawing and less arty- farty stuff... Anyway, let's get to things.

I've noticed your portraits are gradually coming together and looking convincing, but there's a tiny little things that I don't quite like: the eyes. They look a bit too big, like you're putting too much effort on them, trying to make them expressive. That's fine, as long as they're in proportion. I'd say just forget they're eyes, and draw them as basic shapes. Then step back and see if you got the expression you wanted. If not, at least you've got the proportions right, and you can work from there. And hey, everything else in them looks fine and dandy, and this is just my opinion, so take it w/ a pinch of salt...

I agree with Ninjacat that you should maybe put some more work on plain linework to try and make the figures stand out more and have a better base from which to build volume and stuff. But hey, I'm the line- only guy, so maybe that's me :)

Keep it up, dude, 'cause it sure is going somewhere nice!

[andres333]

why does that poll say that you should work more on anatomy??? I know that anatomy is important but that's not gonna solve all your problems, in fact right now that ain't gonna solve anything at all. I think you should do gesture studies, and you'll definitely see an immense progress.

[HolyBovine]

Agreed.. you should probably try more expression and suggestion in your drawings, since it looks like you have a pretty strong anatomy foundation to work on. Quick 30 second gestures, lots of them, will definitely help you in that. And I think you could try different expressions / emotions for your portraits.

Looks good, with the potential to be even better. Keep going =)

[Pigeonkill]

*poke* Demo we can use an update :)

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Pigeonkill, Holybovine,Andres333, odiolitos, ninjacat11, Sonia Leticia

Thanks for the comments and the crits, Iv read over them all and am working on most of what has been talked about, already so thank you. I decided to just answer everyone at once so sorry next time ill be better about specific replies, I should be able to post again almost every day now that my life's a little more back under-control ;)
As for comments about the poll and anatomy, the poll was introduced like 2-3 years ago I cant take it down i would if i could. And at no point have I stopped working on any of those things, Yes anatomy will fix things it would be absolutely foolish to believe other wise, and gesture of a figure would be a subset of anatomy. I do have a ridiculousness amount of gesture work but its super tedious to post and really not to much worth it, I don't necessarily have the time to post 500 pages of 15 second drawings, don't hate me for it, just love me :P

soo sketchbook stuff
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AHHHH sorry about the sizes ill try to work on them when I get back home. ;P

[NickTrip]

Nice work, man. Keep rockin' those studies but remember to have fun too!

[Pigeonkill]

Now that's an update. I like the anatomy studies and bones structure is pretty solid.

Is that gold paint or gold foil in your sketchbook?

In your traditional paintings. It looks a bit muddy. I would try to avoid the blacks and whites. You can do a lot with just burnt sierra or umber. You can just paint a canvas in light umber wash. Let it dry slight and take wet brush and erase the paint and white shows through.

[dleoblack]

Nice!

[Rain Walker]

cant wait to see your finished oil paintings... very exsited .. :)

[RSloan]

I was just meandering through here. Very nice stuff. Love the oils and the studies. :)

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Nick Trip:Thank you Nick

Pigeonkill: Thanks Pigeonkill the gold is glued on gold flake you can go to pretty much any general art store and find either shredded up gold, silver or such or you can buy it in sheets, I bought this marker so i can keep it all stuffed in my backpack and play with it during classes. As for the muddyieness mehh Rembrandt studies my professor said to start with black and muddy colors and work to lighter and saturation so it probably is just that in combination with the unfinishedness.

Dleoblack: Thank you.

Rain Walker: Unfortunately I probably wont go into either of those oils any further, but thank you none the less!!

RSloan: Thank you.

Anyways some more school work from the last show First one was bought by the school, unfortunately I did not get great photos before handing it over.
After that a few ceramic pieces, lots of other studies a Priemevera, a Mucha, some still lifes, portrait, then sketchbook pages.

Also big news I received a pretty big Grant from my school which will cover some very nice large paintings (ONE LIGHT BOX!!!) and what not for a show in October. So
I will sneak updates in here hopefully everyday.


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Heres a more stylized piece in progress should be done soon. !!
and I have most of it screen recorded so will post a video along with progress shots.
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Some more different projects
lots of still life's progress on my illustration

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[Black Spot]

I've had a nice journey through your SB. You drawing has improved a lot from the start, but you've lost some of the joy of colours that you once had. I'd love to see that back.

[p sage]

The Mucha piece is really cool, as was this (self?) portrait (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1243719&d=1306799859)

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Heres a finished piece ill post more stuff tomorrow including step by step... Z_z

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[NickTrip]

Nice job, dude, very mystical! :)

[Aryeh]

nice work. looks like you are learning a lot.

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Nicktrip, Aryeh Thanks you two, for the kind words, it was a bit of a ridiculous piece with all those rocks :oneye:

Heres some more what not

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And these are progress shots of one of the paintings done for a grant i received Horray!!

its one of 2 that will be center pieces of an opening of some of my paintings!!

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Here's a little thing l made out of a small little doodle in one of my books.

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Broomba!

[Lightship69]

Hi Demo

Thanks for the SB visit, I have been back through your book and have come to the conclusion that ........ well I have a hell of a long way to go yet!

I liked the heads you did way back in post 274 of your book, they started out kinda vague and built up to a finished image I dont quite do it like that, my opening lines are thin and spidery, not as confident LOL.

All the best and thanks again for the input

[SMILEFACE]

WOW WiCKED WERKS BROTHER REALLY DIG ALL THE MEDIAS MADD SKILL XD

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Sorry every one I have been quite busy with everything and have not had the chance to do a proper dump of images and work heres a small little selection of current paintings. Thanks all
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O sorry for the terrible qUAlity

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[Aryeh]

with the anatomy studies, one important thing to do is to understand the superficial muscle groupings. Sometimes its not enough to just know them observationally. But you must also follow up all your studies with repetition of drawing the musculature from memory. Even if it's wrong the process of correcting an error is more conducive to learning often than simply copying.

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Aryeh : Thank you for the advice
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More recent work...

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Here are some small paintings, mostly landscape studies in oil and various others some have sold!!
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[merl1n]

Hey, great stuff! I like that you don't restrict yourself and do also traditional art.

keep it up

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Merl1n Thank you ^_^

First Some Sketchbook stuff
And then Some Stuff From A Graphic Design Class
^ Ooooooo..... Caps

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A small test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDaqItLhrY4&feature=youtu.be

[Demo]

WiP

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[Demo]

Some more progress shots
and more portraits to come

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[Demo]

Sleepy

[Demo]

Some stuffs..

Echo... echo ...echo
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Something a bit more fun to break the monotony
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[Pigeonkill]

#315 looks pretty trippy with the light effects.

#318 I actually like the lighting and girls face more than the updated version. Only suggestion on previous update was the girls eyes seems a bit intense and the hair look thickly greased rather than fluffy and loose hair.

Keep pushing those graphic designs and car mods :)

[cricketts801]

love your paintings