View Full Version : What Tutorials do you guys need?
davi
August 26th, 2003, 12:28 AM
If a bunch of tutorials were going to be done by serveral well known and professionals artists what type of tutorials would you guys like to see?
What general topics do you need help on?
gekitsu
August 26th, 2003, 02:41 AM
yeah, it's the basics...
values
value patterns in composition
color temperature
etcetera...
curvilinear perspective seems a good idea to me, seb. next to no one really knows it, everyone heard about it and its hard to find good sites in the web about it.
i had to teach it to myself :/
Fipse
August 26th, 2003, 02:59 AM
I´m mostly with Gekitsu and seb - my focal points depending on my main deficits would be colour theory and it´s appliance.
I would be interested in some tips to customizing brushes in PS and Painter, too. Oh, and not to forget the perfect guide to get a super artist in two month ...
Fipse
BTW has anyone mentioned a "how to apply lensflares"? :D
newman
August 26th, 2003, 04:00 AM
some sort of tutorial about composition would be really useful
poopinmymouth
August 26th, 2003, 09:08 AM
Well I personally would love some in depth fabric studies, and how someone goes about creating dynamic and beautiful cloth.
gasmask
August 26th, 2003, 09:32 AM
Id would kill for a good tutorial on marker rendering like feng, etc. and another digital paint and or oil painting tutorial, this would be very muh appreciated and i think especially with the marker rendering since not many people know how or can find alot of stuff out there regarding the matter, seeing as how people are always posting questions about it and such, that type of tutorial would go over quite well, like one that like fengs goes over process, materials, how to set it up, stroke techniques, and effects and tricks that pros use, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.... or get hawkprey to do one hehehe like with combining markering and photoshop to get effects etc.... ID pay too see that!! oh BTW, where can i find manleys old oil paint tutorial?
I really need help with rendering, its tricky thanks davi!!
bRyaN
August 26th, 2003, 11:34 AM
I personallyrequest, advance perspective tutorials ie fish eye camera views(i believe it's 5 points but not entirely sure)..
And for the sake of inexperienced artist, some basic figure drawing(Head, Torso, Arms, Legs, Hands and Feet) as done by the best..(you guys could prolly whip something up in 15 mins)..
Everyone else covered what i would be interested in..
gasmask
August 26th, 2003, 12:00 PM
Kchen has a forum here for life drawing, tons of notes, check it out
jester
August 26th, 2003, 12:55 PM
I'd appreciate a tutorial on composition.
Jester
LiL QoH
August 26th, 2003, 01:10 PM
Hohoho I had to keep my mouth shut before saying something bad!
Drapery
Elements in Costume Design
Composition
Color Harmony
Values
Lono
August 26th, 2003, 03:01 PM
texture.. and i dont mean overlays, cause i already know how to do that. :)
id like to see the tricks that other professionals use to convey material and surface texture and things with mild or strong reflective nature or even completely dull,, hard,, soft,, wet,,,, etc.
-Lono
stalecracker
August 26th, 2003, 03:12 PM
Right now.... I could use one that would help me massage my own back without twisted my shoulder outta joint. IF you REALLY want to know.
jmascho
August 26th, 2003, 03:16 PM
I would enjoy a 133754UC3 tutorial on seeing color as value. Or methods that help improve it, or something.
And one as Lono said about the surface material.
Plus a Happy Meal.
bRyaN
August 26th, 2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by gasmask
Kchen has a forum here for life drawing, tons of notes, check it out
Oops :bash: i worded it wrong, i meant it for inexperienced artists(plenty do visit this here website) but ah well, it never hurts to get in more figure drawing :rolleyes:
gekitsu
August 26th, 2003, 05:28 PM
now that i think about it...
a quick and dirty run-down on techniques, tools etcetera... used from sketch to finished picture would be cool. just like the hulk thing justin sweet started.
this could be handled like a feature (title could be "studio visit" or "peek over the shoulder of ..."):
a new painting demo by jason (since his dark elf one is quite old :))
an oil painting emo by coro
digital demos by justin sweet and vance kovacs
ron lemen
we have enough pros here to keep this kind of thing interesting.
one could just be inspired by some ways of working, learn some tips of the trade etcetera...
the picture doesn't even need to be uberhuge, just to show progress and technique, along with some explaining text.
tyboogie
August 26th, 2003, 09:44 PM
LIGHT AND LIGHTING!!!
I.was.ink
August 27th, 2003, 02:42 AM
These all sound like great ideas. But I have one question for you davi. Are you going to get these tutorials for us, or were you just curious?
I'm hoping you can get em for us. :D
davi
August 27th, 2003, 03:26 AM
I'm going to try to make conceptart.org the leading tutorial site on the net.
The point of this thread is to gather a list of subjects that people are needing help with and then try to find suitable artists that would be willing to do them.
I won't be asking just anyone either, i've been to alot of tutorial sites that just let anyone post and there ends up being 300 'how to draw anime head' tutorials.
gekitsu
August 27th, 2003, 04:08 AM
that sounds like pretty much of a task, but the result would be well worth it.
as a rule of thumb, what would you think about no "how-to" style tutorials at all but real, constructive tuts, covering info and background knowledge? that alone would set ca apart from all other tutorial sites.
jester
August 27th, 2003, 07:45 AM
I second gekitsu's request. A tutorial that gives you a step by step to a single picture isn't that helpful. Anybody who can read and has minimal abilities can follow them and get reasonably good results. But tutorials that teach you the background and basics spiced with a few step-by-steps are really rare and highly appreciated.
Jester
Orban
August 27th, 2003, 10:10 AM
Maybe we should separate artist's demo from tutorial/tips.
And i second gekitsu... a step by step tutorial is rarelly interesting, it's more a demo.
I've seen here lot of good tutorial - for noob and for advanced user. I'm still curious to see a demo from Dodowa :p
For the subject... here texture in various technique, I don't like to reinvent the wheel or loose myself to find a good way to do those kind of thing(weaves, wood) and the work of color. I've seen a lot of cool stuff in the proposal...
It's good to see that such a web site is allways in evolution :)
gekitsu
August 27th, 2003, 10:24 AM
actually, i don't have anthing against step by step demos, as long as they are done well.
just telling now i'm doing this then i'm doing that and having a few pics is boring and you don't learn anything.
saying what you do and (important!) why you do it, how you achieve this and that, why you choose this color over that for that fill light down there, what you were thinking when putting together the compo, what you are heading for in this stadium of the image, what to do next and why...
things like that are helpful because they don't just show what happened but why it happened.
keyth
August 27th, 2003, 02:59 PM
more color stuff.
davi
August 27th, 2003, 10:37 PM
i don't want to put artist demos on the site, they don't teach much besides how to copy that exact piece of art.
amphex
August 28th, 2003, 11:34 PM
I completely agree with davi and gekitsu..I can never learn anything from step by step demos/how-to's, unless theyre written with useful and helpful comments on how they learned their technique and what one would have to do to perfect their own, etc..stuff like that y'know?
I think 'tutorials' that give outlines of what one would have to learn to excel in a certain aspect or area of art as well as giving tips as to how to get started studying and practicing are the most helpful ones out there.
I really hope that you are able to follow through on this davi...frankly, im excited =)
Nimrod
August 29th, 2003, 01:49 AM
composition and anything to do with water, but especially rain.
Ian Mack
August 29th, 2003, 12:23 PM
composition would be a good one as well. Not to mention, dynamic posing.
Pencil Soldier
August 29th, 2003, 11:23 PM
Id would kill for a good tutorial on marker rendering like feng There is one on his site...
Id go for a tutorial on placing light sources. Where to place them for dramatic effect, etc.
gekitsu
August 30th, 2003, 12:11 AM
yeah, controlling light is a great idea!
rob howard recently mentioned a book about it, forgot the title, though :( have to look it up again.
edit:
the book title is "learning to light", amazon is here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0817441794/qid%3D1061468217/sr%3D8-1/studioproduct-20/103-8835527-5432607
kimchee
August 30th, 2003, 12:21 AM
I'd really appreciate a tutorial on lighting as well. Specifically how light plays off the planes of the human head. However, any tutorial in regards to lighting would be great. I'd even pay for it.
Szyslack
August 30th, 2003, 05:07 PM
maybe something on inking.
Pencil Soldier
August 30th, 2003, 06:33 PM
There are many inking tutorials around, just look.
Sorry if that sounded rude, but it would seem to me that this site should have tutorials that others don't, not their version of the same tutorial.
Artist demos would be cool. They may or may not be very helpful, but they are still fun to watch.
gekitsu- hmm. Isnt that for photography? Perhaps I should've reworded my question.
amphex
August 30th, 2003, 08:23 PM
knowing photographic lighting can be very helpful for choosing lighting, and rendering it realistically, for pieces of other mediums...or so Ive heard.
N D Hill
August 30th, 2003, 08:50 PM
"How to draw anime heads"? No way! I need to find one and draw me a whole mess of anime heads! For some reason my big spikey hair always comes out all wrong.
z3djinn
August 30th, 2003, 10:38 PM
I have been watching this site for a while and I usually visit almost all of the tutorial sites listed. The tutorials give good info on the process used but I would like more INDEPTH discussion on the particular tool settings and the technique used for each picture. Thanks.
Richie
gekitsu
August 31st, 2003, 02:53 AM
pencil soldier: yea, it's a photography book but who cares?
the rules for about controlling light are the same, no matter if you know the light you see when painting plein air, if you imagine a lighting situation or setup something in your studio.
difference is that a good bit more of "old masters knowledge" about composition and light controlling has survived in photography while it got lost with the painters.
Pencil Soldier
August 31st, 2003, 04:42 PM
Im sorry, i din't mean it wouldnt be useful, i just wanted to make sure it was a Photography book. We have soem in our library at school, but not any books on painting. :bash:
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