My little sketchbook

[gris_bouille]

I PRESENT YOU ONE OF MY ILLUSTATION:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/pierrotstep5.jpg


see you later

[Kek]

Interesting :teeth:

[gris_bouille]

thank you, I draw the head of my children..(10 month old)

[gris_bouille]

do you want see another of my work ?

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/piratev2_step4.jpg

look this:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/piratestep6.jpg

[Robert.B]

Have you tried posting these in the crit section of the site? there are alot things that I see not working so well in your illustrations like perspective, praportion, use of color, e.t.c..

[Elwell]

I agree these are more appropriate for CC.
Also, your host is incredibly slow to load the images. You can attach them directly here, solve the problem, and save yourself some bandwidth.

[Whyatt Thrash]

Your pics are cute! But you need to work on your rendering of hands, that's what strikes me the most as being off...

[gris_bouille]

Ok I haven't see the critique section...

another picture:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/fillebarbare1.jpg

[gris_bouille]

again ?

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/boxepetit.jpg

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/branche.jpg

[gris_bouille]

Hello, my last illustration, i finished yesterday:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/blackv2.jpg

arrivederci !!!

[gris_bouille]

zero comment ??? for the last illustration ???

[alesoun]

You have tendency to use pure white for the eyes, which makes them stand out a little too much and the hats are a little too small in the last illustration, I think. Plus, you have paid much more attention to rendering the flesh than the clothes
Something, too, about the depth of shadow which I don't know how to put into words. It's not terrible, but you did ask for crits

[Juhani Jokinen]

I'd recommend removing that lens flare from the latest painting since some people here have a grudge against lens flares ;D

Seriously though, don't use pure white for highlights and pure black for shadows- it often results in images looking flat and plastic.

Juhani

[johanerik]

study anatomy and use refrense when you create. the closest arm in the last pic lookes weird...
I like the first pic best though..

[gris_bouille]

my last illustration,
I try to be more instintive ...(excuse me for english)

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/bangpetit.jpg

[Whyatt Thrash]

It would be nice of you wrote a reply or two on the comments you receive so it seems that you're actually listening to any of the critique given. Otherwise you'll see the comments vaning, vaning until suddenly there are none...

[gris_bouille]

It's true, but I'm not speaking english very well, and I do not always understand.

Escuse me.

[Whyatt Thrash]

If you don't try you'll never learn... :D

[gris_bouille]

It's true, but I'm not speaking english very well, and I do not always understand.

Escuse me.

[Reject-D]

work on anatomy of your character and focus on lightsources..

good job

(english made easy)

[gris_bouille]

Yes anatomy of my character is not correct but for the last illustration, I dont want to draw a realistic character.

For the lightsources You are right...

Now a little sketch:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/militaires.jpg

[gris_bouille]

Another picture, I finished today:

A benegeserit, (Dune you know ?)

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/benegeseritpetit.jpg

[gris_bouille]

un new picture:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/yuopetit.jpg

ciao !!

[Onir]

quite a collection of pieces you've got here :) I like the variety of content you've got going, and you have some nice ideas in here as well. it definitely seems like you were trying to understand the lighting in this last one, which is definitely good stuff. it feels as though the character and the background are very separate from each other though, and I don't think the dark spot on the wall behind her works well as a shadow. also, I recommend using a bigger brush when you are working; I learned that from numerous people on this site and it certainly helps.

I think the majority of your characters in here are pretty stiff; doing some gestural studies should help give your characters a bit more life. also there are anatomical errors present in a number of spots as was pointed out, so studying anatomy wouldn't hurt either. drawing realistically might not be one of your main goals as an artist, but understanding anatomy helps in understanding the assembly of a character in my opinion. either way keep at it and good luck!

[gris_bouille]

Thank you for the long feedback, I am very happy.
Yes I know that my problem is the anatomy and shadow and light ... but I try , I try, I try ...., even if I do not have much time.

[gris_bouille]

Do you like this one:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/gossepetit.jpg

[Jason Rainville]

Tu parle le francais, oui? Je comprend eh... petite francais, mais je illustrerai les problems plus tard... Pour que vous a regardez.

Man that probably made no sense. Basically I'll do a paintover later for some of these to illustrate the problems.

[gris_bouille]

Ok I would like ...

[Jason Rainville]

Here you go, hope this helps (hope my french is understandable, needed the help of an online translator.... :))

[gris_bouille]

Yes, I see my mistakes especially the last 2, but I draw intuitively ... I will try to correct me for the next ..
Thank you very much.

[gris_bouille]

my last picture:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/colonelpetit.jpg


see you later

[gris_bouille]

HI !

there is two last picture,

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/MAN2petit.jpg

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/superg.jpg


see you later

[gris_bouille]

I present you, 4 latest picture:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/gardbut.jpg


http://jmpersichini.free.fr/gosseecharpe.jpg


http://jmpersichini.free.fr/lutincp.jpg


http://jmpersichini.free.fr/necroman.jpg


see you soon !!

[Drunken_hand]

Hey Gris, I don't mean to be a bastard here, but... maybe you should start a sketchbook thread and put these in there. Critique Center category is meant to focus more on ripping one (or a few) piece(s) apart. If you want critiques on these, you might want to create a new thread instead of recycling this one over. Sorry for the kick in the pants.

[gris_bouille]

Oh ok, but how can you take everything and put it in the right section?

[Drunken_hand]

I'm afraid I can't do anything like move this to the sketchbook area, I'm just a lowly catervarii. Just start a new thread in the sketchbook forum and post your stuff again there. From that point on, don't worry about this thread.

Well while I'm here, I really should have given some crits for your work. I would say for the last two that you posted, it looks like you've got some perspective issues going on there. In the homicidal santa/elf pic, I'm guessing you were trying to pass it off as a stylistic piece, but some of the elements feel unintentionally skewed and won't fit on other planes correctly (mainly the nightstand and the bed) - you should draw more attention to the blood and what's going on. Right now the sword and blood don't pop out. I thought it was part of the elf's costume. Only one the second time around I noticed the arm flopping from the bed and the knife. You might also want to put blood on the covers too.

As for the last piece, the angle we're viewing the mountains and the angle that we're viewing the ground markings are different and probably shouldn't exist in the same picture like you've got, without some other distortion going on for everything in between and around.

[gris_bouille]

I try again:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/landscape2.jpg

[Drunken_hand]

perspective it better, but it's not the most interesting thing to look at. That long stretch of river is distracting. I guess we're supposed to be looking at that monastery-like set of structures, but my eyes are stuck on that bright streak of milk flowing through the ravine. Tone down the whites on that thing. Furthermore, while water is reflective, it's also transparent, give us an idea of what's under the river.

And it looks like there's almost four sets of the same cloud in the background. If you've put this much work in the rest of the piece, clouds should be cakewalk

[Stoat]

Mmm. Clouds in the last one are definitely five clones of one set (and the same clouds appear at least twice in the drawing above. Pattern cloning really sticks out to me because I did digital photo retouch for a lot of years (and obvious stamp artifacts and tiling are such a problem).

Which isn't a huge problem all by itself -- certainly most observers aren't going to be hypersensitive to stamp marks -- but it speaks to a real difference in rendering style between the sky, the mountains and the people. They don't go together comfortably.

[gris_bouille]

You are right, the clouds are done with a brush of photoshop, I would focus next time.

And the treatment of character is not the same as the background, It was difficult for me to do

[MarkWinters]

My only bit of advice is to learn to draw and paint before you try to fudge things with Photoshop. The ground looks like there was a pattern that you blurred and mush around and I agree with the others and avoid rubber stamping objects unless your REALLY gonna give it a go. I've seen matte painters do some incredible things with it. But at this stage in the game I'd avoid it. Stay away from white as much as possible and you should almost never need to use white as a light source.

[Qitsune]

Pas d'excuse! Tu peux contacter un moderateur pour deplacer ce thread dans les sketchbooks. Pour ce qui est de dessiner instinctivement, c'est comme un medicin qui veut apprendre à operer instinctivement. Un jour ça va fonctionner mais il va y avoir du grabuge avant que ça arrive. Il existe pleins de thread qui donnent des trucs, pleins de livres et de cours. Commence avec des sujets simples et assure-toi de bien les maitriser, tu va avancer bcp plus vite. Ça ne veut pas dire qu'il faut que tu arrete de dessiner ce qui te plait, si tu t'emmerde tu vas arreter, mais un sain melange d'études et d'exploration est le mieux. De plus, le modele vivant et les études, c'est gratifiant car on voit rapidement une progression.

[gris_bouille]

Tiens une frenchy !! enfin, je comprends quelquechose....
C'est pas parceque j'ai dit que je dissinais à l'instinct que je ne dessine pas des trucs d'apres modeles vivants...mais pour ce que j'ai posté jusqu'à present c'était le cas, sauf le 1er post où je me suis servi d'une photo de mon fils (pour le visage)

Voilà deux petites nouveautés:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/ali.jpg

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/moktar.jpg

Allez à plus, et j'essaye de contacter un modo pour bouger mon thraid..

[corspufo]

Something else that would be useful, rather than showing your new work, try to update your the work you've posted here. Show us your progress in trying to make your pieces better.

Use reference. Drawing from your mind will only get you so far. I know because I tried to get away with never looking at reference. Bad Bad BAd Corspufo. Reference is your friend. Reference doesn't mean tracing or cheat, it means helping you to get it right.

Gris: What language is most comfortable for you?

Rhineville: You rock dude. Your French is awesome. Way to step it up around here. I only wish I could be that helpful.

[gris_bouille]

Hello,
I present two new works:

this one:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/lance004p.jpg

close up

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/lance004cu.jpg

and this one
http://jmpersichini.free.fr/epee3p.jpg

[gris_bouille]

hello guy !

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/drapeau.jpg


see you later !

[BANNED_For_POOPY_PANTS]

Hey Gris_Bouille,

You're obviously talented.. why stay stuck at a level where you have to second guess anatomy? Think about all of that wasted time.. all those wasted erasers..

Your compositions are interesting, you know how to use color, your characters have life (although many of them need some attention to their EYES.. some of the characters don't really have a look, but just a pair of eyes.. does that make sense??)

Learn the human body inside and out, your drawings will greatly improve.

There's no way around it, but luckily for people who are interested in imporving their artistic technique, anatomy studies are rather fun to do.

Cheers, best of luck and START A SKETCHBOOK ;),
JonathanS

[gris_bouille]

ohhh thank you very much JonathanS !! I will try to think of the anatomy!

[gris_bouille]

there is two new pictures:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/pistolet2petit.jpg


and this:


http://jmpersichini.free.fr/guitarP.jpg



ciao !

[MARMENTIDO]

i like your ilustrations!! you're ilustrations are growling up
continue in this way!!

[gris_bouille]

what is it "growling up" ??
I m not understand ...

[gris_bouille]

there is two last works:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/dinop.jpg

and this

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/surfp.jpg

[Clochette]

Salut Gris bouille!
Qitsune t'a donné d'excellents conseils! Tu devrais commencer par t'entrainer à dessiner des corps humains dans des milliers de poses différentes. Parceque apparemment c'est ce qui cloche le plus dans ton travail. Ce serait bien de voir des pages et des pages entières d'études de poses, de bras, de jambes, de main, etc... Si tu n'as pas accès à des cours de modèle vivant par exemple, utilise ce site : http://www.posemaniacs.com/ C'est très pratique pour s'entrainer. Tu devrais commencer par dessiner des poses de façon simple, sans couleurs pour le début, jusqu'à ce que ton trait soit satisfaisant, et que tu ais compris les formes de base. Tout doit s'imbriquer de façon logique et quasi géométrique dans le corps, et dans tout d'ailleurs! Une fois que tu seras plus à l'aise, expérimente la couleur! Essaye de comprendre la lumière. Il éxiste plein de tutorial interessants et très instructifs!
Bien sûr ceci ne représente qu'une partie de ton travail! Rien ne t'empêche de te lacher et de dessiner ce que tu veux en même temps! Mais si tu veux progresser, tu devrais vraiment tout reprendre du début, et comprendre les bases. Ton travail est trop fouilli, tu te perds dans trop de couleurs, trop de plans, alors que tu ne les maîtrises pas. Et aussi, laisse tomber le halo Photoshop, ça n'apporte vraiment rien !:)
Pour la couleur, essaye d'éviter le noir pour les ombres et le blanc pour la lumière. C'est quelque chose qui n'éxiste pas dans la réalité! Essaye plutôt de te servir des couleurs complémentaires : les ombres sont souvent bleutées et les zones lumineuses plus dans les oranges. Essaye de prendre la couleur de base de ton objet, et de trouver les variations autour : exemple une pomme c'est rouge, dans la zone où la lumière ne vient pas elle sera un peu violette (rajoute un peu de bleu dans ton rouge) et dans la lumière elle tirera plus vert le jaune orange (plus de jaune). Mais ce travail doit être fait tout en nuance.
Voilà, j'éspère que je ne t'ai pas blessé, je ne suis pas une autorité en la matière loin de là, mais il faut parfois se faire violence et appliquer de l'auto discipline si on veut devenir meilleur!
En éspérant voir bientôt des planches d'études anatomiques! Continue! :)

[gris_bouille]

merci clochette pour ce retour...
Le site posemaniac est tres sympa je ne connaissais pas...super !!

Au fait , j'ai l'impression que l'on se connait (ton pseudo me dit quelquechose)
t'es pas aussi sur le forum cafe salé ?

c'est vrai que je reprendre un peu les bases du dessin, anat et couleur, mais bon, comme je dessine juste par plaisir..et que je n'ai pas beaucoup de temps..je passe un peu sur ça, même si tu as completement raison..
J'essaierais de m'entrainer en anatomie..

bye et merci encore

[gris_bouille]

last work:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/cornesPETIT.jpg

with a wip:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/corneswip.jpg

good bye

[gris_bouille]

you don't like ??

[gris_bouille]

Hello guy !!

two illustrations with the theme robots

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/speedrobot.jpg




http://jmpersichini.free.fr/robotdieu.jpg


bye bye

[gris_bouille]

The cover of a comic book that does not exist.

I have the scenario in my mind but I did not write.
The tittle is : "SANG mêlè" >> blood mixed....

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/sangmelepetit.jpg

good bye

[gris_bouille]

Hello my new last picture:

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/ogrepetit.jpg

ciao

[gris_bouille]

another picture and zero comment ???

http://jmpersichini.free.fr/johnpetit.jpg

[gris_bouille]

another:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4371/speedguerrrierv2petityv7.jpg

[gris_bouille]

another

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/354/balezeppk8.jpg

ciao

[gris_bouille]

another one zero reply ??

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6787/combatdragonsz8.jpg

ciao

[gris_bouille]

Hi! , a little moment without any post ...
ok here is my last picture :

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7128/roiaillh5.jpg

and now many sketch I drew when I go to work...

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3284/divers1ih8.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3820/divers2nc2.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2057/divers3cu0.jpg
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4697/divers4xs4.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5802/divers5za5.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9536/divers7zg0.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8026/divers8ns4.jpg


In the subway...

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5528/divers6ph9.jpg

ho ho some nudes...

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5361/nu1gy9.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6358/nu2nd3.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3051/nu3jr2.jpg

there was indiana Jones on the french TV...

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9943/indi1zi3.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5020/indi2nz3.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5232/indi3qt2.jpg

And finaly a little series with title "IN MY building"


http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9104/hlm1nm6.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6739/hlm2nj6.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3567/hlm3hv2.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6623/hlm4bm7.jpg

BYE BYE

[humanNature6115]

Hey man cheer up,
Just keep on pushing that pencil.


=================================
:mittenbop: :mittenbop: :mittenbop: Sketchbook:mittenbop: :mittenbop: :mittenbop:
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120761 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120761)

[gris_bouille]

I try..I try... Thank you

[gris_bouille]

another one

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/2262/divers8mw1.jpg

[gris_bouille]

last work:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/144/sectegq3.jpg


olla !!

[gris_bouille]

hello guy, today many new sketch
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/241/sk1vw2.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3369/sk2jh9.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8645/sk3mj7.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2339/sk4tj6.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5282/sk5kk4.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6818/sk6ia9.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2691/sk7ln6.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5176/sk8qs1.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/443/sk9dd4.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/654/sk10qv1.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1534/sk11ye0.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9275/sk12ed5.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8629/sk13yg8.jpg
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6669/sk14md0.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5812/sk15ec1.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5353/sk16xb0.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/235/sk17tk9.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/68/sk18su7.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2083/sk19cg9.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4691/sk20md2.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9505/sk21rb7.jpg
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5811/sk22xy9.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2014/sk23cv0.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3739/sk24xj3.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9679/sk25mr3.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1637/sk26cq8.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1864/sk27qd1.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3449/sk28li7.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3094/sk29ra8.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7633/sk30vb8.jpg

bye bye

[gris_bouille]

two illustrations for childrens:

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/178/4/c/nenette1_by_gribouille77.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8427/nenette2mp3.jpg

and the sketch for the next


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/797/nenette3skan1.jpg

[gris_bouille]

there's really nothing you like?

why ???

[gris_bouille]

now two little speed:

forest devils:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8679/diablotinyr8.jpg

and drag queen on the morning

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2323/travlodj9.jpg

bye bye

[gris_bouille]

new speedpainting:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/644/speed1pfj4.jpg

[gris_bouille]

hello,

I present you de second step of this illustration:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2329/nenette3step2xn1.jpg

and two for the fun:

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6338/grosju3.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8163/monnetpdc6.jpg


bye bye

[gris_bouille]

no feedback ??

This picture is finished:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9754/nenette3step3fc6.jpg

bye

[gris_bouille]

a little speed painting. I make this in a few minute on soft Opencanvas:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3914/robot3wu6.jpg

ciao

[Caffeine_stream]

Just would like to say i enjoyed the sketches and some of the paintings. some people i think are missing the point on your paintings, They have their own style being semi cartoon and semi realism. Imo if you changed the perspective and the anatomy these paintings would loose their identity. (Its like if you copied van gogh's chair, Do you fix the perspective?)

[gris_bouille]

This is the nicest feedback that I had ... I thank you very much!
I'm really happy.

[gris_bouille]

Hello , a new little speed painting:

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs35/300W/f/2008/239/3/0/contree_perdue_by_gribouille77.jpg


ciao !

[gris_bouille]

another one:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/248/tcioz9.jpg

[Caffeine_stream]

keep up the good work. I am getting to like your paintings more and more. they are different compared to almost everything anyone else does on this site. And i mean that in a good way! :mittenbop:

[gris_bouille]

Thank you very much, for these answers that motivate me well :}