Painter X brush strokes just circles?

[Aric]

My first post here... I am new to Painter, I usually do line art, animation, video, and photoshop stuff. I want to start out simple, and painter essentials 2 seemed fine at first, except the digital water color strokes are always outlined with thin dark lines (wet fringe?).
So I am trying out the Painter X demo, just to avoid that problem. But all my paint strokes are made of circles. In other words I can't make a line that starts thin and gets fatter, just bold continuos lines that turn to distinct circles when fading away. Although the pressure sensitivity seems to work, and I can make paint strokes fine in Photo Shop and Painter essentials. Also after I painted a whole picture when closed it, and opened it the next day, it appeared to add blocky black pixels all over!

I'm guessing there's no way to lose the wet fringe in essentials, so can I make a normal stroke in painter x?

Thanks

[sandman]

Hi Aric,

Just curious, but are you 'inking' your lineart with a digital watercolor variant? If so, you would probably have much better results using say the Smooth Ink Pen from the Pens category.

What is the exact name of the variant producing the circles? My thoughts are that maybe you have spacing set too high, or you may be looking at the paper grain in the stroke.

For a line to go thick and thin, in the Size section of the Brush Controls, minimum size needs to be less than 100%, with the associated expression option set to say Pressure. It is also important to set up the Brush tracking in the Preferences, otherwise you may run into a problem like the one described in this example (http://brushport.com/sub/2007/07/05/the-great-brush-mystery/).

David

[Jin]

Hi David,

Your "this example" link isn't working, though it does take us to your BrushTalk blog.


Jin

[sandman]

Hi David,

Your "this example" link isn't working, though it does take us to your BrushTalk blog.

Jin

Hi Jin,

That is strange, my link should open on a perma-linked page with an article entitled 'The Great Brush Mystery'. In that article, I show an image depicting brush strokes produced by two differing Brush Tracking setting combinations;

http://brushport.com/brushtalk/images/fast_inking_tracking.jpg

Brush Tracking Settings for the Left / Right Hand Strokes;

Velocity Scale: 35.67 / 35.67
Velocity Power: 0.60 / 0.60
Pressure Scale: 0.21 / 0.97
Pressure Power: -3.10 / 1.50

As can be seen, the brush tracking settings can completely override the expected Size/Pressure variable.

David

[Aric]

I changed the spacing, and that was what made my lines look like a row of large circles. Thanks for the specific brush tracking numbers! My (digital watercolor) line now fades away at the ends, but it doesn't get sharp like in your image. Like you said though, that is an inking trait.

[Jin]

Hi David,

Here's what your BrushTalk page titled BrushTalk >> 2007 >> July >> 05 says when I click the link in your post above:


Ooops...Where did you get such a link ?

Server cannot locate what you are looking for !

The Server tried all of its options before returning this page to you.

You are looking for something that is not here. Please try searching or browsing the archives.

Posted as Not Found



I'm using the latest version of Mozilla Firefox.


Jin

[sandman]

Hi David,

Here's what your BrushTalk page titled BrushTalk >> 2007 >> July >> 05 says when I click the link in your post above:

SNIP

Jin

Thanks for the heads up Jin, for some reason I had erroneously set that post to Private access, which meant I could see it (as I was logged in to the blog), but no one else unfortunately. :nohope: The link should work correctly now.

David

[sandman]

I changed the spacing, and that was what made my lines look like a row of large circles. Thanks for the specific brush tracking numbers! My (digital watercolor) line now fades away at the ends, but it doesn't get sharp like in your image. Like you said though, that is an inking trait.

I'm glad you were able to set the brush up to your liking Aric. There is a vast amount we can do in terms of brush customisation in the full Painter versions, so I can recommend upgrading for that facility alone.

David

[Jin]

Yep, the link is working now, David.

Jin