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Creatinity
August 22nd, 2007, 05:58 PM
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Hello all,
I’ve really hesitated before creating a sketchbook here...because I’m extremely intimidated…The quality is so high here! But while lurking on the site, I’ve seen the advice of starting a sketchbook repeated so many times that I figured I should do it…
I don’t want to bore you all but here’s some background on who I am and why I’m starting a sketchbook.
I am 26. French…living in the Netherlands presently…Art-wise I was doing this type of work a few months back…
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Creatinity
August 22nd, 2007, 05:58 PM
As you can see I was (and still am) pretty much into space stuff…maybe also related to my job as I am an astrophysicist in real life :D
But recently I felt the urge to go beyond space art…my head is constantly filled with images that I need to draw…so I decided to leave Photoshop behind me, buy pencils, papers and went back to the roots…in the purpose to go back to Photoshop/Painter with stronger skills…especially to draw humans comfortably…
So I will post here the results of my journey into human anatomy drawings mainly and hopefully get some comments on how to improve :D
i'm afraid of taking some bad habits..so that's why i seek the guidance of talented people from CA... :D
You will recognize examples/poses from Hogarth, Bridgman, Jack Hamm, Loomis, Sarah Simblet…
Krigbrann
August 22nd, 2007, 06:01 PM
Please, share. :-)
Creatinity
August 22nd, 2007, 06:04 PM
here's the first bash....
can somebody explain me how the put attachments between text and not at the end?
final word: sorry for my english to all english native speaker...
Creatinity
August 22nd, 2007, 06:10 PM
some drawing and the rendering in PS/painter...
Kozak
August 22nd, 2007, 08:00 PM
Your anatomy studies seem to be going well, and i love your paintings!
Keep posting your work. It's good to see you've decided to start a sketchbook.
Creatinity
August 23rd, 2007, 01:59 PM
thanks for the comment...
a view of some street...
inspired form a sketch of "Pencil magic"
Creatinity
August 27th, 2007, 04:24 PM
edge on torso studies...
please feel free to comment...i'm just beginning
and i dont want to go into bad drawing habits...
so if you spot something :D
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August 27th, 2007, 11:33 PM
You got some really great stuff in here.
Keep it up xD
sweet_sorrow
August 28th, 2007, 12:14 AM
Nice stuff here! Your studies are great.
Creatinity
September 5th, 2007, 05:17 PM
loomis studies....
feel free to give advices...
Ellingsworth
September 6th, 2007, 05:16 PM
Thanks for dropping by my book, dude. I love your studies, keep them up! Also your piece titled heat in the beginning is very nice. Has lots of energy in it. Keep goign strong, man. Later! :)
Moftah
September 6th, 2007, 07:00 PM
hey man good work,keep it up u may find great help at this link,ull find AMAZING work done there:
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1432
Moftah's Sketchbook
Creatinity
September 8th, 2007, 01:15 PM
loomis study...
this man was just so talented :D
Creatinity
September 8th, 2007, 08:08 PM
after a photograph from "Comic artist's photo reference - People and poses"....well i messed up some parts and the drawing maybe lost some dynamism... anyway...still hoping for some helpful crits....
EDIT:...played with PS a bit
Idiomatic
September 8th, 2007, 10:28 PM
Wow, lots of talented newcomers have joined since last I frequented these forums! This is a solid start, and I really like the narrative feel of your 'Heat' piece. And since you asked further up, I'll give you my two cents worth of advice :wink: - when you're starting anatomical studies using Bridgman, Hogarth, et cetera methods, it's tempting to want to 'finish' a study by copying it perfectly. . . what I believe (and this is a draftsman's perspective, certainly not the 'only' or the 'right' way) is that it's better for the beginner to put as much if not more effort into quantity. The beginner will inevitably make observational errors that are only compounded by full renderings (and it's time consuming!), whereas in the same amount of time you could feel out the essence of single drawing by finding it's contours and critical indications of depth (overlapping 'T' intersections, et cetera) and drawing those few things 3 or 4 times. Also in my opinion, artists like Bridgman and Hogarth in particular include a lot of detail noise in their drawings that may make sense in their own vernacular, but won't necessarily correspond to how you might interpret the figure on your own (sometimes this noise doesn't even correspond to actual anatomy, but that's neither here nor there).
Keep it up!
Creatinity
September 9th, 2007, 05:57 AM
Idiomatic thanks...
i totally get your point...it's true that each time i feel the pressure to get as close as the original...for my own satisfaction i guess, and the belief that it will help me to achieve tight rendering on people later...
but for now it's probably also a good idea to do more quick studies...
i'll do both...thanks
Creatinity
October 1st, 2007, 05:06 PM
Work is burning me out...i'm not drawing much..
here's something i did this week end...
no ref..jus to see if these past weeks learning anatomy were useful...
daestwen
October 1st, 2007, 05:29 PM
Hey!
Some great looking stuff here, just a few suggestions:
You've mentioned you hate hands a lot, so you should probably focus some studies on them. Getting down well-rendered hands instantly adds to the image, while leaving them undrawn makes the quality of a sketch a lot less, even if the rest of the image is nearly perfect. The hands/feet don't have to be perfect, you just have to get the right shapes in, and the general values.
I would definitely back up Idiomatic with the quick sketches, and add that you should try to get from-life reference. Even sitting on the bus is good, you can do really quick 30-second sketches of people who stand near you, sit across from you, ect. Or the park, or whatever. It'll help you get down true-proportions much better, and also give you more reference for different types of body shapes.
Creatinity
November 4th, 2007, 03:12 PM
Hello all...
Havent post for a while...
Was a bit demotivated, so decided to change my setup...i was kind tired of drawing at the computer desk...(i'm already at a computer desk all day)...
First i consider a TabletPC, but Gateway didnt want to sell to europeans and the modbook take forever to be released...
so instead i've build myself a little piece a furniture to hold my laptop and 24 inch screen..see picture...
i'm very happy with this configuration...so i drew again :D
the 3 following doodles were quick studies from Simblet and Peck...
software: The Gimp 2.4...
yes...i decided to try the new version of Gimp..must say i'm really surprised...
for the most, it's as convenient as photoshop for me, except for custom brushes...ah what the hell, it will force me to be good at drawing everything...
anyway...thanks for any crits/comments :D
Btw, i just bought and watched the Jason Chan video...
great stuff...very motivating and inspirational...
Creatinity
November 11th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Few more studies...
Jakers
November 11th, 2007, 02:24 PM
Great stuff! You sound like you completely understand what you need to do in order to get better...and your actually doing it. There isnt a ton to say in order to guide you, just keep experimenting and trying to change up how you sketch.
When you start your anatomy or pose studies, do you ever start with very light flowing gestures to try and get more movement? The leg study above this post is fantastic looking...do you think the lower shin bone is too long?
The anatomy from your head is quite improved, but it will probably be that the dynamic poses will still be quite challenging (strange twisting/angles etc.) Next time you draw on paper, try and do more confident flowing lines, some of it gets very scratchy a rough
Creatinity
December 10th, 2007, 03:08 PM
back!
I decided that it was time to tackle those things I'm afraid of...heads, hands, feet....
Starting with heads...
a bunch of noses...
Creatinity
December 10th, 2007, 03:16 PM
Bunch of eyes....
especially trying to understand how to draw them when seen from an angle...
i have some troubles controlling the expression they convey...will work on that...
Creatinity
December 10th, 2007, 03:17 PM
more eyes...
Creatinity
December 10th, 2007, 03:20 PM
again eyes....
plus some try with GIMP...
bunch of profiles...
i was completely off at the beginning...but the more i drew the more correct they were...it was a good exercise....
cw
December 10th, 2007, 03:52 PM
nice drawing spot! a cunning plan indeed. good work with repeating studies, its the only way to get there, and smetimes its hard, but worth it in the end. :D
great stuff!
Creatinity
December 11th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Hello there,
Apocalypse_Rex: thanks for your reply :D
i'm trying to improve my color knowledge...
i've started this type of exercise...i take a random picture, apply a mosaic filter...and then try to guess colors...i then color pick the original color to see how far i am...
like in this exemple...
lefts dots are my guesses...right are the correct colors...
hopefully, i'll get better...be guessing without the mosaic filter on...and start to have some knowledge about the color of stuff in nature...
Does it sound like an ok plan? or is it flawed? do you guys have better exercise to train with colors?
ikuru
December 11th, 2007, 09:38 AM
some cool dynamic bodyparts in here... Id sugest you try and go for a black silhouete and then ad some color and light to it... It will with the light and shadows working up the values from dark to light... and also dont focus too much on what color you pic when starting... the impoortant thing is how diferent colors look together.
Mihail
December 11th, 2007, 10:21 AM
Nice sketchbook,Creatinity. I like the rendering in those b/w digital studies you've made.
As for color training, your approach is interesting, but i find it too mechanical. If you want to understand color you need to analyse it, not just copy it. Try making some studies without the mosaic and don't be afraid to paint from life. I also suggest to look for some materials about color theory, it realy helps in dealing with color.
Cheers.
theUNKNOWNsketcher
December 13th, 2007, 11:34 AM
U're getting better!
must draw more from life ... let us see ;)
lennon
December 13th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Very good, if possible stick with the figure. You're getting it almost nicely but with some effort, try to get more confortable with it so that you don't even need to think about it.
Timmy the Turtle
December 14th, 2007, 11:19 AM
Those studies are really cool! As for the mosaic thingy, I have the same color problem! :)) Nice exercise! Good thinking. But don't use only landscapes... cheers!
Creatinity
December 16th, 2007, 04:55 PM
Thanks for all comments guys...Really appreciated.
Lennon: yep...i struggle..I am master Eraser...
I guess with practice my lines will get more confident and right on...
I've read that some people are sketching with ballpoint pens to train themselves using erasers the least possible...
anyway, some heads...I think i'll stay on the head for a little while...It's so important for the look of a character!
Peter Stapleton
December 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Great progress! Thanks for the comment on my sketchbook.
I agree with Ikuru, the important thing is how the colours correspond to one another. Think more in cool colours and warm colours, very important and a lot of people dont understand at first.
Also you were referring to bad habits? When drawing lines its better to take your time and get the first line right rather than go over the same line many times. It will look better and cause you to concentrate more and learn faster...well I believe so anyway
Creatinity
January 20th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Update!
Been working on heads lately...
Here's 3 sketches I doodled with The Gimp yesterday...
First 2 are ref'ed from Ally Mc Beal screen caps...I hope some of you can recognize the characters! I've lost the likeliness a bit, but I did my best given I didn't take measures or used marks of any kinds.
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The last sketch is from mind...didn't have refs or models...sort of a test of what I know about heads....
I guess it shows that there is still a long way to go...I messed up on some proportions and feature placement...
aah..It's look human enough so I can show it to you :D
As always...I can't get enough comments, they are important for motivation.
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Carbono
January 21st, 2008, 01:50 PM
Looking good, i can recognize lucy liu, i just believe you should pay some more attention to her noose and cheeks! Since i didnt watched ally, i dont know who the other guy is :P
The guy from your mind is looking cool too, just take some care with the distance between the mouth and the nose, it is too big!
You got some nice studies there man, really like it!
Keep it up!
Mischeviouslittleelf
January 21st, 2008, 02:28 PM
Hey dude, thank you so much for the reply, the bluntness kinda put me straight, and I am trying to improve. Where do you live, by the way? I am thinking of kidnapping you when I am eventually gonna start a studio, and use your powers! Cool?
Anyways, great stuff here, love the CG, work gonna let myself ge inspired by you^^
all love
-Even
Sedig
January 22nd, 2008, 01:54 PM
This sketchbook shows great improvement. Always fun to see improvement. Just keep doing your thing. I think all of us would like to see some life sketches from you. No substitute for the real thing.
megamax
January 23rd, 2008, 01:07 PM
Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook, Creatinity. Looks like you're doing well keeping up with the sketchbook. Your space stuff is pretty cool looking, but it's good to see you're branching out and trying to study the human form. Keep it up!
Jack Nugget
January 29th, 2008, 07:13 PM
Hi guy! i like the first's two work,very plastic portrait and realistic by me....Last one i quote Carbono for the distance of the mouth by the nose...Great work's! post more :)
Kuutamo
February 8th, 2008, 07:48 AM
I almost feel bad commenting here, because it's obvious your skill level is way above mine (and you don't even work in the art field!). I must say that from the very first sketches, I was surprised by your very energetic lines. I think a lot of the expressiveness of a drawing lies in them, and you already get them right.
I don't think you should worry too much about "getting bad habits". You seem to know what you're doing, and of course you realise there is no one correct way to draw. The only suggestion I can make is to study other body types except the very muscular ones you see in anatomy books. Also more women, more faces, expressions, old people, kids... but I'm just ranting :D
Either way, keep it up, I'm interested to see your progress! It's an interesting sketchbook indeed.
Creatinity
May 19th, 2008, 06:56 AM
Here we go for a long overdue update.
I've changed my setup a bit, now I draw on a TabletPC...
It's really awesome...drawing digitally is now painless...
I've discovered also a new painting soft...SAI Painttool...just unbelievable.
I've been more then happy to pay for it (so cheap too!), it compliments very well the tabletPC...
the interface is onee the best ever-made, anyway
enough of technicalities...
I'm still focused on heads...
I've done a bunch of movie captures...want to train on expressions a bit...i've been doing only dead serious faces in the past...
I take a capture, draw it as close as possible (I dont shoot for perfect likeliness though) then try to deviate a bit from the model...
My main point is to learn what happened anatomically when somebody smile, shout or whatever...trying to increase my knowledge of the human face...
here's some examples...
(From Star Trek Voyager)
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(from Fight Club)
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I tried to record the process here...not a lot of steps...bah....
(From Fight Club also)
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Here I took a shot at the daunting exercise of coloring my B/W...
I'm scared by this exercise, but I had to tried one day :D
I will probably find these crappy in a few months, but I'm suprisingly ok with those at the moment...
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feel free to say what you think...
Jasper_
May 19th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Hey man your stuff is looking pretty good, paintings are really improving. One thing that may help in defining some forms and shapes a little more is focusing on going from a soft gradient to a hard gradient. Here (http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm) under "light stuff" where he talks about speculars with a silver surface, dull surface, etc. is what i mean. it may help to get a little more detail if thats what your looking for.
D@niel
May 20th, 2008, 03:18 AM
Hey man, some good studies here, keep em coming:)
Creatinity
May 29th, 2008, 04:53 AM
thx for all comments...they help
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2kre8
May 29th, 2008, 07:08 AM
there is nothing like drawing from life, what about signing up for a life drawing class, that would greatly help.
Monkeydominator
May 29th, 2008, 07:22 AM
I'm very inspired by the effort you put in art! I'll stalk your sketchbook to see your future improvements!
Now, this sounds wird coming from someone WAY below your level, but drawing from life IS the best approach, or so I've heard.
I usually do sketches of people when I'm at the library... there, I can draw people sitting still, as well as people moving around. And the ones passing the window.
I'd like to see some studies from life, but that again is just me.
Either way, wonderful work... and keep it up!
lennon
July 29th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Wow, very good stuff. Those light studies look really good (great movie by the way).
gardenrusalka
July 30th, 2008, 01:53 PM
The last one of Tyler Durden, especially the colored version, I like. The sketchy quality works really well with the punchy color you've chosen. Nice!
Creatinity
July 30th, 2008, 03:00 PM
thx for comments guys...
I'm taking your points about life drawing...i'm still pretty scared with drawing with people around...i'll get a hold of myself soon I promise :D
here's some in the mean time...
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Sedig
July 30th, 2008, 07:18 PM
Do you know what, exactly, it is that makes you nervous when you draw around other people? I was embarrassed at first, but I eventually got over that. The only thing for it was to go out into public and start drawing. Most people don't even notice you, especially if you're sneaky.
Creatinity
October 12th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Do you know what, exactly, it is that makes you nervous when you draw around other people? I was embarrassed at first, but I eventually got over that. The only thing for it was to go out into public and start drawing. Most people don't even notice you, especially if you're sneaky.
Well i'm just worried they think what I'm drawing is crappy...
I will get over that soon i hope :)
In the mean time...an update...
There's an exemple on how I work...
I pick up a subject of study...and fill several sketchbook pages of it...
first page is always very hard...
at some point I stop, hoping it's imprinted in my memory :)
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This is a quickie done in SAI Paint tool...inspired by Mr Delicious yummy boxer studies!
SAI is a really impressive program...a combination of Painter and Photoshop...but faster! more straight to the point...especially when you add some custom brushes...
anyway...try it!
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Hope you find that interesting...
I'm a bit depressed..I feel I'm not progressing fast enough...
I'll keep practising though...
agelaos
October 12th, 2008, 02:33 PM
"I'm a bit depressed..I feel I'm not progressing fast enough...
I'll keep practising though..."
nononono, stop thinkin, and more drawin. You'll progress, if you push it to the limit. I mean, shit 10 hours a day, or something, pushin your weakness's, you are gonna improve. Don't let your mind tell you shit. Stay with it, you will improve. Just make sure after you do your studies, 18 or whatever, do one from your head. Do a character or somethin. Make sure you are using the knowledge. Otherwise your brain will just discard it. Keep it up!
By the way, whats so cool about sai? Any advantages, disadvantages?
katinki
October 12th, 2008, 02:45 PM
the boxer is comming along nicely! sai must be intersting, i've heard many good things about it by now. the boxer has a nice sense of volume, i think the skin could use some more subtle colour variations. and it could be the ref, but the head looks a lot stiffer than the rest of the body.
what are all those identical gun holding hands about? do you plan a painting with it? i think a problem in some of them is the connection of the pinky to the rest of the hand.
keep it up!
Creatinity
October 12th, 2008, 02:59 PM
"By the way, whats so cool about sai? Any advantages, disadvantages?"
SAI?
Pros:
Dirt cheap (35 euros) and tiny program...(less than 10Mo)
Most clever interface I've seen..everything you'll need is there, a click away...
Blending capabilities of Painter...(meaning when you put down a stroke it interacts with the paint already there)..but way faster...
the cpu comsumption is minimal...you can watch videos, playing music...no lag noticeable...(perfect for tablet pc and stuff like that)
Each brushes can have it's one shortcut...
Top notch anti-aliasasing at every zoom level
Custom brushes possible...
Vector-capable...
Rotating canvas like in painter (though it'll also be possible with the next PS coming out in a few days)
Cool mixer pad...
it's pretty much a Painter-light...that feels right!
Cons:
You have less control of your custom brushes than in PS...
I guess those guys must be working on it!
there's a 31-day trial...it's worth trying...
Christian223
October 12th, 2008, 04:29 PM
I just want to tell you that the way to study by drawing from reference and then try to draw it from memory and correcting again and again is the fastest way i know to learn, but have patience, give yourself a couple of years before you learn enough so that you reach the level you desire, but for now allways have in mind that you are just learning, so dont feel depressed abput it. Keep your motivation up ! :anime:
realextension
October 12th, 2008, 06:45 PM
your paintings are looking good. keep going learn from mistakes as we all do. what helps me lately: block the main values with size on pressure then change to opacity on pressure for blending and change the size on the go. godspeed mate!
Jaytea
October 12th, 2008, 07:10 PM
You have some impressive portraits! Haha, really like the progressions of the pics at the top of the page. Great work on the boxer, love the brushwork.
DigitallyDumbfounded
October 15th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Niiice! I like this a lot. Seems like in your unrefd portraits your values go a little more flat than in the referenced stuff. Ah, yes. Don't we all just love when that happens. :D
I find that way of studying in the last post really inspiring. Will do that too. :^^:
fullmetaljacket
October 21st, 2008, 08:52 AM
Well i'm just worried they think what I'm drawing is crappy...
I will get over that soon i hope :)
Omg, i got the verry same ideas XD. You shouldn't be worrying though, youre portraits are just Great. Also the lady in this picture is lovely, attachmentid=425006.
What i do think in the brad pitt painting, that has been smoothed, it looks a bit too smudgy to me.
Great work, Grts
Creatinity
January 26th, 2009, 12:51 PM
oh yes...it's been a long time....
been busy changing country...live in Norway now..Bergen...
here's a small update...a compilations of studies i've done recently....
nothing extraordinary...working my way through hopefully :D
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walnut
January 26th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Your progress seems to be coming along nicely. One thing you could focus on is losing some stiffness in your work, but i'm betting more practice'll take care of that. Keep on trucking ...
Creatinity
January 28th, 2009, 04:33 PM
trying to be more active :D
few quick sketches from today...based very very loosely on a ref
I try to explore proportions in female's face...and stick them into my head :D
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Creatinity
February 5th, 2009, 01:54 PM
Probably doesn't look like much...
but when I look back over my first sketches..(those before I even posted here), it's just day and night...and it was taking me forever and a whole eraser per drawing to get what I thought was "right"....
whilst here those are quite quick sketches...
It's slow progress I guess...but it seems it's slowly going somewhere...
but the weird thingis that right back, I thought I was not far of getting it right...same as I feel with these, while now I see them as absolutely lame :D ...I do everything I can to change my "view" of them, zoom in/out. flip etc...so my brain is not "auto-correcting " them...
I hope it doesn't too much...and these don't look too crappy too you:D
please do tell...:^^;:
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phoenicorn
February 5th, 2009, 02:54 PM
Great stuff mate. Loving your latest piece. Keep it up mate
Creatinity
February 6th, 2009, 04:57 PM
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jedininjaman
February 6th, 2009, 05:07 PM
the jaw lines on your chicks are little masculine, you should shorten and soften them a bit it would help get that feminine look
nice proportions on your sketches, and ya the under view of the jaw is way tough, keep it up man
thanks for sharing
-jedi
Creatinity
February 6th, 2009, 05:43 PM
the jaw lines on your chicks are little masculine, you should shorten and soften them a bit it would help get that feminine look
nice proportions on your sketches, and ya the under view of the jaw is way tough, keep it up man
thanks for sharing
-jedi
oh you are right on....I struggle with jaw lines... :D
I hope I will get it better soon...
thanks for the comment
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Creatinity
February 7th, 2009, 06:02 PM
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