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pagedown
August 2nd, 2007, 03:38 PM
Welcome!
Hello!
I have always loved art and just recently decided to get serious. I admit ive been lurking these forums for a while until recently i chose to seriously peruse art as a hobby. I am 20 years old and live in toronto with my parents while attending university. My artistic heros are, spart, vylle, hull, church, samwise, and...
CnC are welcome!
Recently got a tablet, no scanner for pencil works though, maybe someday when im done eating ketchup on bread.
Here we go!
SEVANS
August 2nd, 2007, 04:16 PM
Just keep drawing from life and reference. Your images aren't quite 'right' to me, but they seem fairly solid and more drawing can only help.
Do you have any Loomis (my favourite) or bridgeman books. You can find old loomis pdf's online for free. Hunt them down, I think has ways of creating guides and structure would greatly strengthen your work.
pagedown
August 2nd, 2007, 04:41 PM
No sir, never read anything from Andrew Loomis or George B. Bridgman. Which book do you recommend from the Loomis series?
i only wish i could somehow haul my comp to model sessions lol. Most of these digital sketches are from memory.
SEVANS
August 2nd, 2007, 06:14 PM
Ignore the Loomis cartooning books (a very dated and simplistic style) and just get the anatomy book and maybe the illustration one (lots of theories about composition, layout etc - good to see other peoples ideas).
pagedown
August 5th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Heres a quick line sketch:
CTseng
August 5th, 2007, 11:12 PM
ooh, my favorite so far is the quick line sketch. i like the muted colors. watch the legs though, the right leg seems to be a lot thicker than the left, even if it is being foreshorted. awesome pose with the legs to practice with, by the way :)
anyway, looking at the earlier cgs, i'd suggest practicing some more flow in your lines instead of making several short strokes to find the form. And do some more pencil studies before playing around too much with digital.
keep updating!
pagedown
August 6th, 2007, 10:07 PM
Tytseng: Holy crap, I can’t believe that I missed the fatness of the legs, and I just realized that the right shoe is pointing in the wrong direction lawl. Thanks for the critique man.
Some analog sketches
Model drawings are done with 15-20min timer with Kimon Nicolaides - The Natural Way to Draw theory of feeling the form, and touching the model as you draw. Also there is one 10min blind contour, 10min water color modeling, and some cross hatching of drapery.
ped454
August 6th, 2007, 10:34 PM
Ta-da
http://acid.noobgrinder.com/Loomis/
Found that on the forum somewhere. Don't know who posted it but lets both thank him for it.
Another website is this. Its got loads of poses if you're interested. check it out
www.posemaniacs.com/blog
On final notice. Welcome to Ca. I like the way you do Lifedrawings. They're very. curvacious and actually look 3dimentional. See you around
pagedown
August 6th, 2007, 10:40 PM
ped454: oh snap posemaniacs...gold. And thank you for the loomis link, currently reading "Andrew Loomis - Figure Drawing for all it's Worth". And thank you for the w3elcome, i hope to enjoy my stay here!
pagedown
August 9th, 2007, 08:22 PM
another quickie sketch. Doing a lot of Burne Hogarth studies aswell, will post soon.
SEVANS
August 9th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Good set of updates. A few of the studies have some very nice form to them.
Keep posting.
pagedown
August 11th, 2007, 03:21 AM
from ref. 2 hrs experimenting with brushes. Any painting advice?
dierat
August 11th, 2007, 01:51 PM
Hey, great start so far. Your sketches defintiely have character, and though the porportions aren't spot on yet, they're certainly in the right direction. In the first couple, I thought the torsoes were a little long, and I wanted to say that with the first chick, the sketch in brown with tablet, when lying down her breasts should flatten a little. Just a thought.
Keep it up!
pagedown
August 11th, 2007, 08:07 PM
thanks for the critique and support!
an update! Usually i give up a piece once it really starts to bore me or "taking longer then i expected" but i am gonna finish this no matter how long it or tedious it is.
pagedown
August 13th, 2007, 05:33 PM
update
pagedown
August 14th, 2007, 01:42 PM
practice.
dannE-B
August 15th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Hey, im liking these recent studies, they should help your digital painting skills a fair bit. I find it interesting the way you sketch, that overlapping circular motion really captures the shape of the figure...especially on the Larger life class models. Good work , keep at it and i shall keep checking.
pagedown
August 15th, 2007, 03:01 PM
hogarth studies cnc greatly welcome!
Thanks alot prophet! will post some analog stuff soon
designboot
August 15th, 2007, 06:32 PM
work on your anatomy .. don't waste your time for blending or other painting effects ...
practise anatomy with single line
pagedown
August 16th, 2007, 04:32 PM
Thanks for the advice Designboot
update
Kind of pissed that i lost some of my anatomy studies...:xpld:
dierat
August 16th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Posts 15 and 16 are great. That chick really went through a transformation from one stage to the next. I'm glad you fixed whatever was up with her nose. And how did you do the pattern on her dress, is I may ask. Are those individual brush daps on another layer? The way you build skin tone as in post 16 is awesome. It reminds me of seeing a portrait modelled in clay, smuding around the planes of the form to get the right volume.
Keep it up, dude. This stuff is really inspiring ;D
pagedown
August 16th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Thank you for the support Dierat. I made the pattern in separate window and turned it into a custom brush in photoshop, and just played with strokes to reveal her body form. It worked for the most part, turned out ok.
pagedown
August 17th, 2007, 10:07 PM
Paint practice..
pagedown
August 18th, 2007, 10:53 PM
paint practice
Gears
August 18th, 2007, 11:01 PM
realy nice skills. your really grasping anatomy and lighting. great job!
pagedown
August 20th, 2007, 04:03 PM
gears: thanks bro!
Im have so many problems with color picking when im painting, whats worse is that i can't seem to flatten the image to simplify it with my eyes. The only analog painting ive ever done is with water colors, and not so much of it. I scrapped so many crap digital paintings. i dont know i can't seem to grasp it, im really desperate for some direction for digital painting in photoshop...feel really lost.
Well anyway here are some color and continuing anatomy studies.
dierat
August 21st, 2007, 04:25 PM
lol Cute color studies ;D It's nice that you're practicing reflected color on those guys, but try to incorporate color into your shadows as well. An orange sphere, according to color theory, should have blue in the core shadow area that neutralizes the orange and produces a grey/brown shadow effect. Same with the blue and green slabs. I would suggest taking a few days to practice color from observation in still-lifes or models (self-portraits if you can't get a poser ;D). And it can help to put down the tablet and practice in pastels or colored pencil now and then. That isolates the issue so you're only practicing *color* and not struggling with color *and* photoshop simultaneously. (Unless you're more comefortable with photoshop than pastels, that is ;D)
Keep it up, duder! It's nice to see consistent updates :D
Mohd.N
August 22nd, 2007, 02:04 AM
u have a potential of creating something really awsome.nice sketches though.keep it up.
Ashrumm
August 22nd, 2007, 02:42 AM
Keep up the Hogarth studies, they will definitely help you in the long run. I see alot of digi work but what i think is more important for you right now is to keep moving your pencil that means anatomy and value studies. You really have the right idea with Hogarth keep up the good work.
pagedown
September 10th, 2007, 10:40 PM
I feel really guilty about not posting in a while. My isp suspended my internet service for about three weeks due to suspicious activity on my end of the line. And with no internet, it kind makes you realize how you've taken advantage of the service. Apart from going to the library like a bum to use the crappy internet stations, it was nice breath of fresh air to sever my self from the computer and do things that require a little more muscle activity.
Well it seems that everyone is strongly encouraging me to keep moving my pencil and lessen the wacom doodles. So i guess these last two sketches i did three weeks ago will be the last of my wacom work. Kind of feels like a step backward though because the whole idea was to do stuff like sparth, vyle, or hull (yea im a loser...lol) some day.
Kind of depressing as well now that school has started i wont have much time to focus on my SB anymore. But if anything i got from reading these forums, it has to be that one should steer away from discouragement and stay positive, constantly better yourself, and never let arrogance take hold.
So here is the latest of my digi sketches. Came across bumskees forum
pagedown
September 21st, 2007, 06:48 PM
heres some pencil stuff
pagedown
September 23rd, 2007, 11:58 AM
another sketchbook
Ashrumm
September 27th, 2007, 04:37 AM
Thanks for posting in my book!! I see you have been recently focusing on studies lately! Keep it up! Those bridgeman studies are looking good. Definitely keep that pencil moving!!:rendered:
funfetus
September 27th, 2007, 12:38 PM
I see you're studying Hogarth and Bridgman. Bridgman's great, but I'd avoid Hogarth at this point -- his stuff is pretty exaggerated, and may throw you off. Check out Andrew Loomis (http://acid.noobgrinder.com/Loomis)' books, they're excellent.
Anyway, it looks like the studies are paying off. Don't just copy out of the books, though -- make sure you understand what it is that you're copying. Put down some construction lines to make sure you keep stuff straight, and in proportion. Some of your copies are drifting a bit.
You're definitely on the right track -- keep it up!
Buckster
November 6th, 2007, 05:16 AM
Nice work and progress here mate. I reallt like the anatomical studies, specially the shading technique in post 7 and I think that you've got something nice going in post 23. The advice you got form funfetus goes for me as well. You are doing good here, I can see improvement, keep at it!
Cheers
pagedown
November 7th, 2007, 10:47 PM
ahhh so long...since i update. too much [portal]
I have a ton of pencil doodles....well anyway i found an old guy whose face was reflecting so many colors...i gave it a try.
pagedown
November 9th, 2007, 08:24 PM
another speedy
pagedown
February 15th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Omg its been too long since i updated my sb. Architecture is a time consuming bitch. Well heres a quick one for those who care...had to dust off my wacom. lol
pagedown
March 13th, 2008, 12:09 PM
gave up on this one. Back to pencils
mentler
April 20th, 2008, 09:23 AM
Thanks for dropping by
my thread and
feeding the monkey.
Returning the favor.
Good solid feel for
form and a love for
the figure will carry
you far.
Talent is about
love of doing
what we do.
Fishspawn
May 8th, 2008, 01:07 AM
Thanks for stopping by my book! You're doing all of the right things - those life drawings and anatomy studies are looking good. My favorites are the really weighty ones on the previous page. Life drawing is the best way to improve, studying other artists is the next best! A few tips for photoshop painting - start and finish with opaque brushes. You can use more transparent ones for blending like you're doing, but you need to start with solid colors and finish with solid colors - yours look muddy from too much transparency.
The other thing is that value is way more important than color. I'm still learning this truth, but color almost doesn't matter at all compared to value. You can put weird colors all over the place, but if your value is right then it looks fine. Obviously some color theory makes your stuff even better, but focusing on value is the way to go.
I also see a lot of really obvious errors in your stuff that could be fixed really easily if you took some more time measuring angles and proportions. Measuring, while it may seem dull, is one of the most useful tools for an artist. The more you do it, the less you need it!
All of that said, there's major improvement in here already, and If you keep up this practice you'll be pro in no time!
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