evolution of a drawer

[prawda]

hi all ...

im new here ... (15 years old, male, living in switzerland , thats all for the basic infoirmation) ...

at the moment i m trying to learn the basic human anatomy. i ll post sometimes the stuff i draw as exercises ... some comments and/or crits would be really helpful ...


7th august:

ok here we are ... i started at 7th august 03...(just some days ago..) and i began with legs ... these are just copies out of a book ( do you know Bammes ?)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august7_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august7_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august7_3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august7_4.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august7_5.jpg


8th august:

ok next day ... more legs and a male body (again copies)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august8_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august8_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august8_3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august8_4.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august8_5.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august8_6.jpg


9th august:

more crappybodies (copied)) and a live drawing of my legs (with a mirror)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august9_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august9_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august9_3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august9_4.jpg

10th august

two lifedrawings ... legs and body... and my link hand

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august10_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august10_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august10_5.jpg

[prawda]

11th august:

arm and hand studies ... (number 1,2,3 r copies) then my left hand again..

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august11_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august11_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august11_3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august11_4.jpg

12 th august ...

only two pages today , i was lazy .... my left hand in action ...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august12_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august12_2.jpg

ok thats all ...

(i couldnt post all the images at once..)

[metaphysiks]

hey at least you are studying the right things. the best advice i can say it break from the book and draw from life, but remember what the book taught you.
good luck and ill check in
meta

[japasset]

Great studies, looks nice, nice sketch technique with lines. As said before, you've soaked up the book, now apply it to life. It's tricky, it'll take more practice, you'll feel like you're making no progress for awhile drawing from life with what you drew from the book. But it'll sneak up on you and you'll be amazed on how much you've progressed over a period of time. It'll surprise you when you realize it. It's one of the joys of drawing.

Keep drawing til your hand hurts.

--Jeff
Syracuse, NY

[thomasaurus]

very good studies, now as suggested, draw from life!

[prawda]

thx for the comments .

yesterday i draw only lifedrawings of me (with a mirror) as u said ...

here it is

13th august

my link hand

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august13_1.jpg

a leg study

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august13_2.jpg

a arm study


http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august13_3.jpg

[prawda]

ok next udate ...

14th august ,all r lifedrawings with a mirror...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august14_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august14_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august14_3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/august14_4.jpg

crits are very welcome ...

[Hunger_Artist]

ok.. first off you have sandman in your profile, which automatically makes you cool... as for your sketches cubistic studies are always good but dont be afraid to add in some curves here and there...also mabey try some gesture drawing and animals

[steak-tron]

these are excellent studies. if your only 15 you will go places with yer skills. Try drawing some figures without references, you will find what areas you have problems with and then you can address them, jump back and forth. keep doing this untill it hurts and you'll get lots o' understanding o' the figure. you should also look at the skeleton - then add muscles.
keep up the good werk

[DEVARSHY]

your crosshatching style reminds me of Paolo Serpieri.
one who made Druuna.

[prawda]

thx for comments ... heres a little update from the work i did today and yesterday ...

13 september : studies

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/september13_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/september13_2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/september13_3.jpg

14 september : lifedrawings (me at mirror and my brother)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/september14_1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/september14_2.jpg

[golgari]

wheew, considering you're only 15 you've got quite far indeed.
you're still a little bit bound to the bammes-style, but i have to admit that it looks awesome :)
the last two go away from that style a bit, yet they seem a bit unsure. maybe try doing more like that.

oh, and by the way... die "linke hand" is the "left hand", not the "link hand" ;)

[prawda]

yes bammes is awesome ... i think there is a difference between the last two and the rest because i used much softer pencils for them and so i dont have to crosshatch the shadows ...

link hand :rolleyes: stupid mistake thx ...

[prawda]

hi

i havent posted for a long time but yesterday i ve bought my graphire 3 (A6) so i show u my first two sketches ... plz give me some crits...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/sandwar.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/greek.jpg

i will post a part of all the pencil stuff i have done later ...

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/me1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/me2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/game1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/lord1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/pill1.jpg

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle4.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle5.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle6.jpg

[-The Swift-]

this stuff is great. well done. keep up the studies every sketch just gets better, congrats

[prawda]

thx 4 reply swift

some new

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle7.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle8.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle9.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle10.jpg

[endregan]

hey youre doing awesome. great studies too!

your dedication and hard work shows, and for only 15 years old that reminds me how much harder i should be working!

[prawda]

thx endregan ...

some lord of the rings : return of the king sketches :

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle11.jpg

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/doodle12.jpg

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mered.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/meblue.jpg

two acrylic self portraits ... about 40 minutes each ...

plz give me some replys ...

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mono1.jpg

[prawda]

me without ref ... i drew that in the train ....

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/me3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/lung1.jpg

[prawda]

i started a new sketchbook ...

arghhh my scanner isnt big enough ... :bash:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb4.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb5.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb6.jpg

[prawda]

quick sketch with fineliner and eddings:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb7.jpg

[N D Hill]

It looks to me that you're getting into some very good habits. You're focusing on what's real and you'll ultimately find that to be essential. Not only that but you're doing it every day. You're progress is showing too so you should be very encouraged! I've been taking life drawing classes for about a year now and I agree with a lot of the comments here. Observing what's infront of you is paramount. the only way to observe relationships between muscles, colors, light and dark is by studying them first hand and recreating them. Also, being able to walk around your subject in order to put it into context with it's composure and surroundings is an advantage that you won't get from books.

A trick that my professors showed me that you might find usefull, is to study with a renaissance aid. This is basically nothing more than a transparent projector sheet with a grid printed on it. When you buy them, they're loose so you might want try making a rigid frame out of card board so you can hold it by one corner or clip it to something stable in front of your subject. It might seem like a very boring and mathmatical approach at first, but in time you'll find yourself drawing living subjects much more naturally as your proportions correct themselves automatically.

Since you're only 15, I'd bet your getting an earlier start at life-drawing than most of us here. Certainly earlier than me. Keep up the great work and welcome aboard!

-Noel

[prawda]

thx for this very helpful reply , exo i will keep that in my mind...

by the way i m 16 now

here are some new pages...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb8.jpg

scanner is too small so i dont show the lower page ... it isnt very interesting ...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb9.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nb1a.jpg

[bahamut]

hey m!

sooo lang häsch jetzt au wider nöd nüt postet! sind geil gworde am schluss! wott au en scanner dihei! da isch jedefalls de link zu minere siite

n

[van]

Looking good so far...keep em coming!

[prawda]

hey i ve got replys... thx for the motivating words... i should post something within the next weeks but as first i ve to draw something new i ve just worthless scribbledump here ...

at bahamut : nice to meet u here
cu :chug:


edit:: yeah my sketchbook has two pages now that motivates ..... :electric:

[prawda]

a little update: a page of my dumpbook

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/skp1.jpg

and a digitalsketch...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/face1.jpg

i know that suxx :barf:

cu

[van]

That first page is cool. I really like your pen work. Cool style!

[prawda]

thx van , heres a little study with a fineliner...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/study1.jpg


:o

[character]

you've got some good stuff man. keep on postin. i love that last arm study. i <3 ink drawings. peace peace

[bahamut]

I too like your ink a lot... if i had to pick a favourite thing about your drawings, it would be that!
what shall i say? like the arms, but know the original all too well;) , and the faces are nice, too, but too few!. lets see more!

[prawda]

god told me to update my dusty sketchbook so i did it ... (no it was bahamut)

@character : ink rules

@ bahamut : i try to draw more but im very lazy and sometimes very busy :realmad: :electric:

here r two scribbles ....


http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nu3.jpg



http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nu6.jpg

i know boring

cu :o
:chug:

[BRANDISH]

great improvement! i like those last drawings.

(and bammes is great too.)

[bahamut]

wow!
REALLY love the smart guys on the last one...my fav drawing of yours so far -period-. Is that you and your brovva??
update coming tomorow for me too!
n.

PS:I hated this new colour...but like the new vBulletin and beginning to love the bright-modern colours already!!

[prawda]

thx brandish

@bahamut :no it isnt me. but nice that u like it :cool: i hate the new colours too the old brown was MUCH better . after all it has got new weird :mohawk: :baby :afro1:

ok heres a little update i used ink and a brush

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nu1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nu2.jpg

cu :rock:

[mentler]

Looks like you have spent some time with Bammes books.
I teach anatomy at The Society of Figurative arts.
Check out the site for the school - I am starting to post demonstration
drawings from classes. I think it will interest you!
The past several weeks I have been drawing the figure from memory from at least 3 views i.e. front, back and side (the three graces) I think this is a great exercise and highly recommend it to my students.
Am also working on basic skull construction---look for posting on tsofa site in next few days

http://tsofa.com/?faculty.gallery.tre

[prawda]

wow thats really imperssive ... thx for the great link

heres a conceptdrawing for a weird submarine or something like that :crazy:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nu4.jpg

cu

[prawda]

oh god my thread is on page two :bigeyes: :ep: (i love the smiles)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nu5.jpg

that suxx i have to draw more :bash:

[prawda]

@mentler : thx again i love ur page and all the figure drawings ... here is a torso study i did ... i used mentlers stuff as reference

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/torso.jpg

cu

[van]

Great studies!! Keep em coming! :)

[prawda]

thx van.
any other opinions about that stuff ? :mrt:

cu praw :coffee:

[Hyver]

those concept drawings are a great way to improve on perspective while doing interesting stuff at the same time (well i bet you have more fun inventing spaceships than drawinh old chapels in the countryside, yea? :) )
you could give them more depth by shading some parts with markers, or digital.
mind the tailfins on the naboofighter-like ship.
keep up the stuff :eat:

[prawda]

heres a little update ...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/uu1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/uu2.jpg

cu praw :chug:

[prawda]

i tried pencil again (i didnt use it for a long time) and i liked it.the only problem is that dont know how to scan it the right way it always looks so much worse on the screen... anyway here it is...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/pencil.jpg

cu praw :chug:

[waronmars]

Holy shit man, your improvement is phenomenal! Good to see a fellow whippersnapper rippin' it up (not literally), your faces have especially gotten better since you first posted one. Keep going, I will be watching from the wings, like a hawk I tell you, a HAWK!! :bigeyes:

[prawda]

wow waronmars thanks for this very motivating reply :jump2: ... i must draw more ... damn goooo o :scared: :alien3:

cu :chug: praw

[elboy]

hey, there's some great improvement from your first posts to these recent ones. I like your inkwork. The way you're applying value w/ pencil in this last post looks like they way one would work in ink, but I can't really offer much help cause I find myself doing the same thing (working the same in pencil and pen). Anyway, just keep drawing and you'll just keep getting better. nice stuff.

[Jworion]

these are really really great and its so great that you are doing studies because i can see a definite improvement ... keep it up!! :jump2:

[prawda]

thx @ elboy and jworion :waves:

next page:

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/pencil2.jpg


praw :beer:

[Groover McNab]

You show a lot of confidence with your inked stuff. Keep it up!

[prawda]

good news everrryone ( i just watched futurama :btu: )

i visited the zoological museum today and i did some sketching. here are the first pages i just scanned in :

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus1.jpg


http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus2.jpg

praw :chug:

[prawda]

i scanned in the rest

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus4.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus5.jpg

praw

[prawda]

nothing to crit about this stuff ?? what a pitty ...

[prawda]

i just scanned in some of the pics from todays museum session ...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus6.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus9.jpg

[PelleTM]

Who did you sell your soul to be able to draw like that? ;)

Nice ones! Keep them coming

[prawda]

thx pelle, heres the rest of the last museum session :

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus7.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus8.jpg

praw :chug:

EDIT :: WOHOOOOO PAGE 33333333333333333333333333333 ( i mean 3 )

[metaphysiks]

pretty nice man. i always enjoy animal drawings from life. do we get to see more?
meta

[PeggyChung]

Hey Prawda, nice stuff ya got here, very patient rendering. only comment i have is darken your values, i notice i dont see much of the darker scale of shading, only the iris of the eyes. keep it up

btw how long have you been drawing seriously and how much a day?

[prawda]

@ metaphysiks : thx man i feel honoured. i dont know when i m going to visit the museum next time i havent a lot of spare time at the moment...

@ ladylioness : thx, the thing about the value is a very helpful crit. i will try to remember this... i did my first human anatomy study about an year ago (beginning of the sketchbook). i always have periods when im drawing a lot and then i m drawing nothing for months. how much do i draw a day ? the two museum sessions took my about 7 hours but i didnt draw all the time. i spend a lot of time just lurking around ...

cu

[prawda]

here is the short museum session #3, i tried to keep the crit of ladylioness in my mind...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus10.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/mus11.jpg

:chug:

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/torso1.jpg

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/arm1.jpg

no crits?

[prawda]

night session :crosseyed

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/noodle1.jpg

i start to feel a bit alone in here...

[prawda]

i started a new book ( perhaps i post a pic later) anyway heres the first page

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/book1.jpg

[prawda]

update

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/newbook1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/newbook2.jpg

:chug:

[waronmars]

Yeee-haw! Glad to see you've kept it up, those animal sketches are awesome! That last post is the best of you're people drawings, great to see continued improvement there. Vampire cows...w00t! :firedevil

[prawda]

thx waronmars , i was getting a bit depressed cos i was so alone ... its also nice that u can see improvement cos its in my eyes the most imporntent thing , thx again

edit: where is the chug-smile ?????????? conceptart i hate youuuuuu :upset:

[prawda]

hi,

well i didnt post for a while... anyway here is an update , some pages from my sketchbook. i would enjoy some crits and stuff like this thanks a lot ...

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn1.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn2.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn3.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn4.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn5.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn6.jpg

cya. prawn.

[jester]

You've got a good grasp of shapes and light directions. In your portraits / faces the mouths are usually too small and the noses too long (which is due to using the standard scheme, I think). Also it seems that you get bored by rendering the hair. Take a look at how strands of hair form groups and how each have a light and shadow resp. dark areas.
Hope this helps.

Jester

[MrFrost]

for 15 years of age, you blow my mind away. very inspiring to see your work...

[prawda]

@jester: yeah thats true, long noses are something which u can find in all my sketches ... :S

@mr. frost: thx a lot , by the way im 16 now...

here are some other pics from my sketchbook, few weeks old

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn7.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn8.jpg

p.

[prawda]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn9.jpg

http://mitglied.lycos.de/schmatthay/images/nnn10.jpg

p.