Ringling College of Art and Design 2008 Hopefuls

[Jollesslauds]

This is a thread for anyone who is planning on applying to Ringling for the 2008-2009 school year.

I'm a recent high school graduate from Chandler, Arizona. I will be attending this upcoming school year at a local community college taking care of some liberal arts courses so I have more time for studio classes at Ringling.

I just finished Ringling's precollege program yesterday. An overall great experience. I learned a great deal from both the faculty and teaching assistants. Anyhow, I took some photos of the campus while I was there; you can view them here:http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x44/Jollesslauds/.

[zeitgeist]

This is a thread for anyone who is planning on applying to Ringling for the 2008-2009 school year.

hey Jollesslauds, I'm going to apply for the game art and design course in sept. I've never actually been to sarasota... so thanks for uploading the pictures you took :)

[poisonedsodapop]

I'm more of a 2009 hopeful while I finish my associates in Fine Arts. Maybe, I'm not set yet. It's the closest but tuition is a complete and utter ouch. But since this is the second time I've debated Ringling I think it may stick.

Oh, and I'm pretty much set on animation although illustration is my backup. I'm more interested in 2d although 3d is the standard.

[bluefruitbowl]

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The 2008 threads have begun!
I may or may not be a 2008 Ringling hopeful. I'm definitely a 2008 college hopeful.
Hello!

[Onceuponastar]

Hey everyone,

I'm Once, I have also just finished up the Ringling Precollege program and took the animation and figure sculpture electives. I'm a 2008 hopeful for the illustration program. I found out animation doesn't tickle my fancy, but ringling sure does. I'm going into my senior year, crazy senior year, filled to the brim with art courses of course.

[CherryLunar]

Oh wow. The 2008 thread is here already and it's off to a good start. :)

I'm a 2008 hopeful for RCAD's Computer Animation program. I'm currently living in Woodbridge, Virginia. I graduated in mid 2006 and have been attending college here for the past year or so. I'm more of a "creepy" lurker than an actual poster, myself. I'll be sure to read most of this thread, though I may not post much. :)

I'll be sure to start a sketchbook of my works here pretty soon. :D

[afromadness369x]

ya i just finish precollege too it was really fun and i learned alot im going to be a senior this year in high school so i will aplly for the next year soon im pretty sure i will get in.can't wait to go back to ringling everyone is so awesome and enviorment there was awesome too i miss it :\

[Odyism]

I'm about to be a senior, and I'll be applying to Ringling as a safety school. The main attraction for me is the new Game Art + Design major. But their Illustration program looks pretty good too.

[thesinfulsaint]

The main attraction for me is the new Game Art + Design major. But their Illustration program looks pretty good too.

Make sure that on your application you mark that you're interested in GAD, not Illustration because there are a limited number of slots and you'll have to turn in your portfolio and application earlier. You can always switch to Illustration later. Just a thought. :)

[Onceuponastar]

ya i just finish precollege too it was really fun and i learned alot im going to be a senior this year in high school so i will aplly for the next year soon im pretty sure i will get in.can't wait to go back to ringling everyone is so awesome and enviorment there was awesome too i miss it :\

I miss it as well, I didn't want to leave precollege..it was a very sad day when we had to leave.

[ThabisoMhlaba]

I am a hopeful. Ringling is one of the schools I have in my sites along with Sarah Lawrence, SVA and Pratt

[Jodo]

I'm hopeful. Actually, I'm wishful. Its just so dam expensive.

$12.5k per semester + fees. That's over 25K a year (over $100,000 for all 4 years). So now I have to decide whether or not to sell my soul to corporate america and drown myself in debt for the rest of my natural life.

(I know I'm being dramatic. I just hate that the only school I want to go to, I can't go to.)

[Jollesslauds]

Hey, all. It's nice to see that this thread's off to a good start. :^^:

For those of you who are interested, here's a list of cities where National Portfolio Day will be taking place: http://www.npda.org/events.html. Though the site doesn't specify which events Ringling will participate in, they attended most last year.

During precollege, an admissions represenative explained that during National Porfolio Day, faculty from various art colleges will critique prospective students on their work for their application portfolios. It was highly recommended that we attend one near our city.

[ThabisoMhlaba]

I just want to know actually a little bit about the skill level of the average artist in the school. *Points to SB in Signature* Do you think I would fit in on that level?

[artmessiah]

I just want to know actually a little bit about the skill level of the average artist in the school. *Points to SB in Signature* Do you think I would fit in on that level?


Oki, you should be fine. Just remember to include lotz of observational pieces in your Ringling portfolio - stuff like life drawings, figure drawings, still life, etc. Try and stay away from the manga, anime, comicbook or cartoony stuff. Two or three original pieces are fine and encouraged, but they really like to see stuff drawn from life.

BTW someone should copy and post the Ringling criteria from the first page of the Ringling 07 or 06 threads and post it somewhere in this thread to have a good understanding of what the school wants to see in students.

[Onceuponastar]

Also.. About still life the admissions at ringling was telling us about an uh-mazing still life concept and how to be original forget the fruit..forget the cow skull forget the damn flowers. This still life he was talking about was that a kid glued a fly to a stick, took some turf of grass, a staple and positioned it so it looked like the stapler was chasing after the fly trying to eat everything in sight..I thought that was pretty cool. Also..if you do anime and plan to put it in your portfolio, just don't. You won't be accepted. As one teacher in the illustration department says..Theres a whole country that can do it better than you, so why should you do it.

[Onceuponastar]

THE NEW STUDENT CENTER
Ringling School of Art and Design's most ambitious construction project in its 74-year history is now taking shape! Our new 5-story Student Center is fully under construction and scheduled to open in the fall of 2006.

Destined to be a dynamic environment for learning, living, and creating, the new Student Center will provide 80,000 square [url=foot of additional office, classroom, and residential space.

On the first floor will be the Office of Admissions, a fitness center [complete with locker rooms and shower facilities], and dance/exercise studio, "The Fishbowl" [student lounge/ recreation area], School mailroom, as well as other student activity and meeting spaces. In addition, a 300-seat exhibition hall is being designed which can be used in an auditorium-type configuration, or divided into four individual classroom spaces.

The second floor will house the Office of Financial Aid, the Bursar's Office, the Office of Student Life, the Center for Career Services, the Academic Resource Center, and will contain a variety of conference rooms, student meeting spaces, a commuter lounge, media rooms, and more!

The third floor will be home to the Department of Computer Animation including classrooms for Traditional and 3D Animation and Game Art and Design, as well as faculty offices, and open computer labs.

Floors four and five will be home to 96 students. Each residence will include a private shower/bathroom. On each floor there are two laundry room facilities and three student lounges.

This exciting new space will be dedicated to the academic, professional, and social development of all Ringling School students and will create additional opportunities for collaboration between students, faculty, and staff.

THE NEW GAME ART & DESIGN MAJOR

Ringling School will debut a new Game Art & Design major in the fall of 2007.

On average, half of Ringling School's Computer Animation graduates have accepted employment in the computer gaming industry. Now, Game Art & Design majors will have the option of targeting their demo reels and portfolios to this $10-billion business.

Students will explore the challenges of creating visual art for gaming audiences and develop a game-based senior thesis as an entry into the world of interactive entertainment.

The Game Art & Design major brings Ringling School's feature film aesthetic to games. You'll begin by studying the basics of game design – meaningful play, player interaction and options for creating and refining game content. You'll go on to study multiple narrative, interactive narrative and character structures in relationship to gaming environments. You'll also understand the influence of games on society and their enormous potential to educate as well as entertain. Above all, Game Art & Design is more than creating entertainment. It's creating an experience.



The following info was taken from the old Ringling 2006 Thread

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random facts/info/tips etc.

-The number of freshmen is about 400 with a total of about 1100-1200 students
-70% of students recieve some form of financial aid
-Computer animation major is a little more selective then other majors
-Ringling prepares you for 3d animation by teaching you traditional first
-MUST make half of your portfolio life drawings, and FINISH them. They frown upon sketches
-Ringling seems to like figures and self portraits a lot
-Be careful submitting a portfolio with really light shading.
-Ringling puts AP credit towards electives.
-To send in your art work scan it in or take slides. If you make a DVD or CD make it really easy to find the work because the faculty looking at it may become grumpy and not give your work the time it deserves.




The following info was taken from the old Ringling 2005 Thread

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Originally Posted by sula_nebouxi
Official requirements:
Ringling requires a portfolio of artwork which ranges from 10 pieces(if you're in high school) and 15 (if you're transferring). In addition 2 pieces from each studio course must be included if you want credit for it. At least half of the artwork must be done from direct observation. Ringling also requires an essay and 2 letters of recommendation. You need to have a high school GPA of at least 2.0, not sure about college GPA if you're transferring, but I'm guessing it's the same. SAT scores are not required, but they may help if they are high. An essay is also required on one of the following subjects:
1. The creation of art is the result of many influences. Who or what has most influenced your work? In what way?
2. Discuss your goals as an artist or designer. How will attending Ringling School of Art and Design help you achieve your goals?
3. Discuss a local, national or international issue that is important to you. How would you address it in a work of art?
4. Describe an important experience that has shaped you as a person and as an artist.

Unofficial requirements(Or probably what they like to see, in no order)

-Figure studies and still lifes, lots of them. When Ringling means observation from life they mean this. -Don't ignore composition in still lifes, they can turn a dull piece into something really interesting to look at.
-Be very careful in including 3d work, only include it if your 2d skills are top notch and even then only include a few, and even then still, only include it if it kicks ass.
-Be diverse. Include a little bit of everything, by which I mean different mediums. Paintings, charcoal, pencil, etc...
-I've heard from a person who got in that a representative from Ringling said they like to see motion studies, and that you have some understanding of animation or movement (ie walk cycles, the bouncing ball)
-No storyboards. Stick to observational drawings.
-Scanning drawings can be a bad thing. Use slide film or a good digital camera in good lighting.
-It is possible that attending a college prep/precollege program will increase your chances of getting in. The official requirements stated that they like to see that you have taken a bunch of studio art and art history courses prior to going to Ringling.
-Plan to spend LOTS of time with your drawings, expect to spend at the very least 6hrs on each one. It's grueling but the amount of effort will show in your work.
-Your current GPA and portfolio are key to getting in. If you have a very high GPA(3.5 and up) you can probably get by with a decent portfolio, if you show potential. But if your GPA is low(between 2.0 and 3.0), your portfolio must be fantastic to offset the GPA. GPA's are important because they show that you are willing to work hard to improve. And also because academics are also important to Ringling.
-Your essay is also very important. It may tell a bit about you that your drawings cannot. To a lesser extent it also shows that you can put words together to form a sentence . Your essay should have a sense of eagerness to work hard, humility, no arrogance, and don't say something like "If I don't get in that's fine, I can do it on my own". They might think "OK, next!".
-Ringling wants to see a few things above all else: Potential, drive, creativity, skill, and your personality shine through your portfolio.
-Not sure if this matters too much but, do your drawings on a nice unwrinkled sheet of paper with no rips or tears or whatnot.
-Showing contrast in drawings is a must. Have a large range of values in your drawings. It's never good to just have grays in your drawings. Include dark blacks and bright whites.
-Play to your strengths. If you have weak figure studies, try not to include too many of them. Instead include what you are good at. Just don't neglect the observational art.
-Show only your best. Including bad or relatively average drawings can hurt your chances. It kinda gives a rushed feeling and they may think you aren't consistent with your work. Even if you have very few pieces, it's better than filling it out with mediocre work.
-Try not to wait until the last minute to send in the portolio, while they may be lenient on this, it doesn't hurt not to take any chances.
-Quick gestures may be a good idea to include. Maybe a large sheet full of them.
-Ringling likes to see creative works alongside the observational stuff. Show them what you are interested in. Remember, this portfolio is supposed to show who you are.
-Ringling, and most other art schools for that matter, don't want to see comic/manga style work. It's hard to be original with those kinds of styles. They also do not want to see stuff drawn from photos. Usually a trained eye can notice whether or not something has been photographed beforehand.

Random Info: (Also in no order)
-You should get your response from Ringling between the end of February and mid-March. It seems to depend on how many have applied and when and if you get weeded out(sorry if that sounded harsh).
-It doesn't really matter if your drawings are done on large paper or small paper. Whatever you're comfortable with.
-Solid foundation in art goes a long way. Understanding the human body will help tremdously in creating not just realistic works but believable ones.
-You can call the computer animation department to see if you have been accpeted. Sometimes they can check for you. Or they might give in from all the requests
-To be eligible for the Presidential scholarship(all expenses paid) you must complete your application and submit your FAFSA by March 1st. It goes to one person from each major and depends on your entrance portfolio. It only goes to the best.
-Unconfirmed: You can reduce your tuition by working as a Resident Advisor in the dorms. By doing this you do not have to pay for housing. That's $5000 less each year you have to pay.
-Freshmen are required to have a meal plan, after freshmen year you do not have to have one. This is because Freshmen dorms do not have a kitchen.
-FEWS is a great extra-curricular activity. Kids get together and just draw live models. Perfect for those who want to improve their skills.
-There are LOTS of scholarships out there. Pretty much every major corporation has one(it's a nice tax write off) Target, McDonald's, Taco Bell etc...It is possible to pay off a major part of your tuition with just scholarships. Check fastweb.com, lots of scholarships are available for those that just graduated high school and those who are undergraduates in college. Hell...I found a scholarship just for atheists.
-Word is, the Keating Freshmen dorms are full of fresh out of high school partiers. It will be loud and hard to concentrate on work there. Look into "family housing" or check to see if you can transfer into the Quads or Bayou dorms. Quads are also considered to be the nicest of the dorms so, if you're transferring in as a freshman and you have transfer credits and you are older than a traditional freshman, you have a good chance of getting in there. The Cove is supposedly quiet but it's quite a walk to the main campus.


Hmm...I think that pretty much sums up the last Ringling thread. Just remember to do your best and don't ever give up! Oh, and if you don't get in immediately, don't worry. Get on the waiting list and usually a couple people who got accpeted choose not to attend. It seems the wait list position can be anywhere from 3 to 10. Wow this took quite a while to write...well...anyways good luck...we'll need it.



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Ringling 2007 hopefuls
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Lieu

[Lake]

hey, I'll give you a couple more.
Me,
and also Tamte.


Ringling Students on Conceptart.org
Advocate of Fate
Hett15
Sula_nebouxi
EccoXile
RNS
Jayneko
JesterCapp
Sartell
Chicken and IceCream
McLean
Red_Rook
Oogiboogi
Amaranthine
Ringling 2007 hopefuls
thesinfulsaint ACCEPTED
rblitz7 ACCEPTED
Richter ACCEPTED
artmessiah ACCEPTED
StxSwanson ACCEPTED
Atsurou88 ACCEPTED
Lahlah ACCEPTED
Nilaffle ACCEPTED
Gbertek ACCEPTED

[RNS]

Good luck to all you 2008 hopefuls! And don't be nervous, just try your best! :3

[sula_nebouxi]

Teehee...I think it's cool that my post is still getting circulated :D. Good luck all!

PS. I really need to go back and see if that things needs revisions. It's been over 2 years since I wrote that lol.

[Jollesslauds]

I was trolling around Facebook tonight and discovered a group for all us 2008 hopefuls: http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4277411555. The group is headed by an admissions office staff, so it should be a good source of information. On the discussion board, there's a list of the National Portfolio Day sites Ringling will be attending; be sure to check those out.

[Lieu]

*adds me*

Ringling Students on Conceptart.org
Advocate of Fate
Hett15
Sula_nebouxi
EccoXile
RNS
Jayneko
JesterCapp
Sartell
Chicken and IceCream
McLean
Red_Rook
Oogiboogi
Amaranthine
Ringling 2007 hopefuls
thesinfulsaint ACCEPTED
rblitz7 ACCEPTED
Richter ACCEPTED
artmessiah ACCEPTED
StxSwanson ACCEPTED
Atsurou88 ACCEPTED
Lahlah ACCEPTED
Nilaffle ACCEPTED
Gbertek ACCEPTED
Lieu ACCEPTED

Ringling is awesome, guys :)

[thesinfulsaint]

Ringling is awesome, guys :)

Much agreed. You'll all love it!

[Jodo]

Anyone know how important it is to have different mediums in your portfolio?
All I have is a pencil and paper...


...and a wacom but I was told submitting digital stuff is a bad idea (plus I'm better with pencils than with a wacom).

[zeitgeist]

it seems like... as long as it's traditional... and you focus on things like anatomy and perspective... you'll be fine.

but im sure they wouldn't mind variety... if possible.

im sure somebody that knows how to answer this question better will be along shortly. :)

[thesinfulsaint]

As long as your graphite pieces were strong, you'd be fine. Something demonstrating that you know color would probably help you, but you don't need expensive materials to be accepted. Just make sure that you show the full value scale, pay close attention to anatomy and perspective, and work from life. Figure drawing classes are really a life saver to otherwise mediocre portfolios, so do those if you can!

Digital work is discouraged... I would DEFINITELY not include anything 3D. I've heard it said that that actually works against you. If you have some strong 2D digital pieces, you could probably stick them in alongside your strong from-life traditional pieces. I wouldn't include more than 1 or 2 digital works.

[Jodo]

Just what I wanted to hear. Thanks Zeit/Sin.

Everything in the portfolio will be from life, but I have no access to figure models so i'll have to improvise.


Gonne be applying for Illustration btw.

[Onceuponastar]

As long as your graphite pieces were strong, you'd be fine. Something demonstrating that you know color would probably help you, but you don't need expensive materials to be accepted. Just make sure that you show the full value scale, pay close attention to anatomy and perspective, and work from life. Figure drawing classes are really a life saver to otherwise mediocre portfolios, so do those if you can!

Digital work is discouraged... I would DEFINITELY not include anything 3D. I've heard it said that that actually works against you. If you have some strong 2D digital pieces, you could probably stick them in alongside your strong from-life traditional pieces. I wouldn't include more than 1 or 2 digital works.

Actrually...I was told to put 3-D into my admissions portfolio by the teachers at ringling to show that I could do 3-D, and that was after I told them I was going to be applying for illustration...

[artmessiah]

Actrually...I was told to put 3-D into my admissions portfolio by the teachers at ringling to show that I could do 3-D, and that was after I told them I was going to be applying for illustration...


Do so at your own discretion. I would just include traditional media as much as possible, especially if you're applying for illustration.

[thesinfulsaint]

The reason that 3D is discouraged is because Ringling wants you to learn the programs their way. If you are using it in another way, you are reinforcing bad habits. There are people who get in with 3D in their portfolios, but I've heard it from the mouth of a Ringling official that it has hurt the outcome of a few otherwise OK portfolios. It's up to you if you want to put it in there, but again, IMO it's a bad idea.

[Jodo]

I have limited knowledge of 3d programs so I won't. Besides, I don't think 3D is all that relevant when applying for Illustration.

[Onceuponastar]

I completely understand why your saying no 3-D I had no plan to put 3-D into my portfolio of course they told me to put a figure sculpture into my portfolio and perhaps a 3 Foot Wire Kangaroo that I put. Just throwing it out there, some students at ringling in the illustration major, do their projects as sculptures, said from a Ringling official..I think anyone in precollege over the summer can back me up on that ringling official I believe that was said in the presentation about the illustration department. So that is just the reason why I said in some exceptions..3-D could possibly be ok. But, I was not really set on putting 3-D into my portfolio, for I want as much money as I can get in order for me to even go next year or I simply can't go and will have to wait a year to save up more money, which I may do.

[thesinfulsaint]

Sculpture is probably OK (but again, stick mostly to 2D life drawing). I meant that you should stay away from 3D software like Maya, Max, etc. Sorry for the confusion. :)

[Hinovae]

Hello everyone :) I'm Jackie from Cincinnati, Ohio. I have actually been around here since last year, haha. I was accepted into the Computer Animation program but due to personal stuff I decided to hold off until 2008. Hopefully I will be accepted again and can finally start college life!

If anyone has any questions or anything I can try to help. The Ringling thread from 2007 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77793) has a lot of great information in it also!

[Onceuponastar]

Hinovae may we see what pieces you entered into your admissions portfolio to get accepted into the computer animation program?

[strangedays315]

I was at precollege this past summer, I really cant wait to go back to Ringling. Hopefully I get in for illustration

[Hinovae]

Hinovae may we see what pieces you entered into your admissions portfolio to get accepted into the computer animation program?

Sure thing. Though I should warn you that I was put on the waiting list, I wasn't accepted immediately. So you will want to have a bit better of a portfolio than I submitted. I have since updated mine :)

morphing.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/morphing.jpg)
acrylic.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/acrylic.jpg)
skeleton.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/skeleton.jpg)
oil.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/oil.jpg)
nude.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/nude.jpg)
camillepissarro.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/camillepissarro.jpg)
mirror.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/mirror.jpg)
mother.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/mother.jpg)
pumpkin.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/pumpkin.jpg)
keys.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Hinovae/portfolio/keys.jpg)

For my updated portfolio I am taking out the mirror.jpg, nude.jpg, and probably the oil.jpg but I'm still deciding. I'm going to replace them with a self portrait, another still life, and one original piece. I suggest keeping basically everything in your portfolio from life. :) I was just pressed for time and had to add some things I didn't really want to, haha.

[artmessiah]

Hi Hinovae, Hope to see you here next year. You'll love the CA Dept, the instructors are what I expected... hilarious. Truly animators. Lotz of work tho - right from the very start, so get ready.

[Hinovae]

Thanks artmessiah. :) After having a year off I'm sure I'll be ready to get to work, haha. What kind of projects are they having you start with?

[Onceuponastar]

Strangedays, I was at precollege as well, were you in appleton or student center? I was in Appleton.

[CatHicks]

Howdy howdy.

I'm Cat and I'm a junior year animator here at Ringling.

Just dropping in to say hello. Feel free to bug me with any questions you may have about life as a Ringling animator. I don't necessarily visit CA.org every day so if you have any questions that you'd like to ask, PM and I will get to you when I can. I will also post the questions/answers here so all can see what's up.

Ok that's all!

-Cat

[Onceuponastar]

Hey Cat, Ed Gavin showed us one of your animations during Computer Animation in Precollege, absolutely amazing. I believe it was your sit/ stand animation.

[artmessiah]

Thanks artmessiah. :) After having a year off I'm sure I'll be ready to get to work, haha. What kind of projects are they having you start with?

Well for me since I skipped most of my core year and was able to go as a sophomore, I jumped right into to Computer Animation 1, Traditional Animation 1, Concept Development 1 and 3d Design (my single Core class). I still work nights as well so I'm probably more busy than the average transfer, I guess. I plan on updating my blog with my assignments as best I can until I can't work or post anymore, ha ha.

[Jollesslauds]

Strangedays, I was at precollege as well, were you in appleton or student center? I was in Appleton.

If I remember correctly, Strangedays was one of your fellow "Appletonians."

[CatHicks]

Hey Cat, Ed Gavin showed us one of your animations during Computer Animation in Precollege, absolutely amazing. I believe it was your sit/ stand animation.

Ohhhh Ed! I was in his CA class when I went to Pre-College. He played the key role in me becoming an animator instead of an illustrator.

Thanks for the compliment!

[thesinfulsaint]

This is very random, and should have no impact on your REAL decision to attend Ringling, but I just wanted to share some of the cool stuff that's been going on on campus here lately. :)

-We had a day to tie-dye Ringling t-shirts yesterday along with a cookout.
-We had a bonfire by the bayou
-A campus-wide game of capture the flag
-There was a dodgeball tourny over Labor Day weekend
-We have a pillow fight this coming Tuesday evening (don't ask me either, but it's too entertaining of an idea to pass up)
-There's also an evening of pancakes coming up on Tuesday.

Sooo... During all of you guys's freshman year, there are plenty of fun activities to keep busy with (alongside your homework, of course.)

[zeitgeist]

aw sin, you're making me jealous! :)
I hope you're having a blast!

[Richter]

-There was a dodgeball tourny over Labor Day weekend
Team *f-bomb* Awesome FTW!

>.> <.<

[Devvv]

How much is tutition at Ringling? All I heard was that it's very expensive, close to $100, 000??? What is the percentage of grads finding decent jobs after graduation at Ringling?

[zeitgeist]

How much is tutition at Ringling? All I heard was that it's very expensive, close to $100, 000??? What is the percentage of grads finding decent jobs after graduation at Ringling?

here's a pdf that should answer any questions about tuition and all that. going to any major art school... when all is said and done... your owing ballance usually comes to around 100k... that's what financial aid/scholarships/student loans are for ;D

http://www.ringling.edu/fileadmin/content/admissions/pdf/Fees_07-08_for_website.pdf

[nilaffle]

I missed the cookout yesterday! That is the last time I let an opportunity for free food slip by me....

Anyway hi guys :) I'm nilaffle, a Computer Animation major. This is my first year at Ringling, but I transferred in as a sophomore. I'm one of the many current students who will be popping in to help answer questions.

What is the percentage of grads finding decent jobs after graduation at Ringling?
Devvv, a percentage is hard to give because of all the factors that affect a student's marketability when they graduate, but as for the CA major, the hire rate is pretty good. Really, it's all about how much effort a student is willing to put into their success. Ringling won't find a job for you, but it gives you the resources to get you headed in the right direction.

Here's another fun download to show you all the job opportunities available to students and grads.
http://www.ringling.edu/fileadmin/pdf/RinglingSchoolCollegetoCareer2005.pdf

[Lieu]

Ah, by the way- I'm a freshman CA major :) Can't wait to get into the studios!!!

Ah- I totally missed the caputre the flag game! I was at HIP HOP CLUB!
Yes, be jealous.

I *will* catch the next game, though!
I also joined Salsa...I've been practicing ;)

[afromadness369x]

wow that sounds like so much funn dam i thought precollege was fun. i can't wait to go there now im waiting to apply but ringling website applying signup is down right now :-/

[philsturr]

possible to transfer into sophomore year in spring semester 2007?

I know 2007 school already started, but for the spring semester i mean.
is it too late to apply for spring semester? is it even possible?

[nilaffle]

Lieu, if ever I make it out to a dance class, maybe we'll finally be able to meet. :p

What major, philsturr? Computer Animation/Game Art and Design majors can only enroll for fall semester. Every other major is on rolling admissions.

[artmessiah]

Ah, by the way- I'm a freshman CA major :) Can't wait to get into the studios!!!

Ah- I totally missed the caputre the flag game! I was at HIP HOP CLUB!
Yes, be jealous.

I *will* catch the next game, though!
I also joined Salsa...I've been practicing ;)


What the... Where, and what is this Hip Hop club you speak of? :party:

Are there flyers on campus somewhere?

[Onceuponastar]

As said prior, Ringling won't find a job for you, but recruiters come to ringling, theres about 59 different well known recruiters that came last year I believe. Ah man the capture the flag game reminds me of our massive precollege manhunt well the appleton kids had a massive game of manhunt. Of course indeed there was a massive game of marco polo on the 5th floor with rolling chairs on the last night..where an elevator owned my foot..long story..hehe.

[thesinfulsaint]

is it too late to apply for spring semester? is it even possible?
If you have actual transfer credits that apply, possibly. Probably not for CA, but it might work for another major. Call down to admissions and ask about that. They can definitely help you out. :)

I thiiiink Hip Hop club is through the fitness center (there's a schedule by the front desk there, artmessiah). They also have an awesome yoga class that I am now a member of. Yee for campus activities! :)

[Lieu]

Hip Hop is in the SC exhibition hall at 6pm (or 6:30...*forgets*) on Saturday :O Last time there was only about 20 people (maybe less?)

there's also a group on facebook...totally join!

[CatHicks]

To any upcoming freshman CAs, and any current freshman CAs:

Involve yourself in as many on-campus activities during your fall semester. Starting spring semester of your freshman year you start CA classes and your spare time is cut in half. By sophomore year you don't have spare time. Just a tip.

-Cat

[copperfire]

Hi everyone!!! I'm a 2008 CA major hopeful! Yay! I took a year to go to a community collage to get some liberal arts and art history courses out of the way. I'm still unsure of my Liberal Arts Physics however, and if it will transfer, If I even need it. I looked for a councilor number on the Ringling website, but found none. Anyone know it? I'd like to speak with someone in order to understand what credits I could use next year. I also have SAT scores, but they're not great, 1040 (I only took it once o.O;) so I'm wondering if it would help or hinder to include them when I apply? Also what sort of figure drawings are acceptable? Can they be gesture or must they be finished pieces? I'll try and post my porfolio in order to get a better critique from everyone.

[artmessiah]

Also what sort of figure drawings are acceptable? Can they be gesture or must they be finished pieces? I'll try and post my porfolio in order to get a better critique from everyone.

Include both, if the gestures are good. Definitely include more finished figures than gestures, but again if the gesture stuff is good than why not add them :)

[thesinfulsaint]

I'm still unsure of my Liberal Arts Physics however, and if it will transfer, If I even need it. I looked for a councilor number on the Ringling website, but found none. Anyone know it?
Call down to the general admissions number at 800-255-7695 or 941-351-5100. Explain your question, and they'll transfer you to the right person.

[copperfire]

Thanks to you both!!! It's so great to have people who have been there and done that here to help! You're both so great!
Argh, I really hate my physics class.
But about my SAT scores, good idea, or bad idea? o.o I also noticed the online applications are still down, but that buys me more time! Yay!

[thesinfulsaint]

SAT scores are not a huge deciding factor--it's probably 10% test scores, 20% GPA, and 70% portfolio; however, if your scores are above average, they might help you in the running for scholarship money. I also had a friend who was offered a job as a note taker through student life simply because he had good score on the SAT English section. Unless your scores are really terrible, I'd say you might as well submit them.

[Lieu]

Haha...SAT scores...
I totally forgot about sending them until like...the night before...and, of course, it takes about a month for them to send. I doubt they ever made it. Mine were pretty awful, though...but I had confidence in my portfolio.

Then again, you best not follow my example :p I think Thesinfulsaint has the best percetage idea (10% test scores, 20% GPA, and 70% portfolio) for Ringling. This might not apply to a different school that takes scores more into consideration.

By the way....I learned to WELD and PLASMA cut on friday :D best day of my life!

[artmessiah]

By the way....I learned to WELD and PLASMA cut on friday :D best day of my life!

Lieu who do have for 3d design? I have Vicky Randal on Friday.

[Lieu]

I have John Williams on Tuesdays and Fridays at 12:30.
Were you the guy I saw standing outside of wallgreens?

[artmessiah]

I have John Williams on Tuesdays and Fridays at 12:30.
Were you the guy I saw standing outside of wallgreens?

If you saw a chubby guy looking confused... then yeah, it was me.
My class it at 0830, I may not see you when you get there.

[thesinfulsaint]

Hey, for all y'all GAD wannabes, you'll be happy to know that Ringling was just licensed today as the only school to have Crytek. Check out some of the links below:


http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15521
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7183&Itemid=2
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/news/?id=17444&ncid=AOLGAM000500000000017

[zeitgeist]

oh wow! that's brilliant! just another great reason why Ringling is my one and only choice!

[Jodo]

Hey, for all y'all GAD wannabes, you'll be happy to know that Ringling was just licensed today as the only school to have Crytek. Check out some of the links below:


http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15521
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7183&Itemid=2
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/news/?id=17444&ncid=AOLGAM000500000000017

:O

That's sick. Almost makes me want to apply for GAD rather than Illustration. But from what I can tell GAD is more theory rather than creation. But it would be pretty awesome to work with CryEngine2.

I hate dilemmas.

[zeitgeist]

:O

That's sick. Almost makes me want to apply for GAD rather than Illustration. But from what I can tell GAD is more theory rather than creation. But it would be pretty awesome to work with CryEngine2.

I hate dilemmas.

more theory than creation? how'd you come up with that? I got more of a perfect meshing of the two based on the GAD curriculum.

[artmessiah]

Hey, for all y'all GAD wannabes, you'll be happy to know that Ringling was just licensed today as the only school to have Crytek. Check out some of the links below:


http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15521
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7183&Itemid=2
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/news/?id=17444&ncid=AOLGAM000500000000017

Ringling is the shiznit SONnnn

[Jodo]

more theory than creation? how'd you come up with that? I got more of a perfect meshing of the two based on the GAD curriculum.

I suppose you're right. I'm just more of a 2D guy.

But GAD sounds like fun and probably more secure in terms of career opportunities down the line.

I think I'll apply to GAD then maybe check out the CA Atelier after I finish.

Either way I think I can change majors during my first year if I decide it's not for me.

[copperfire]

Thanks again everyone! Man, Ringling just keeps getting better, O.o SCAD was my second choice, but I hear they're a lot more academic.

Also, I have a friend in the illustration major, she tells me that next year she might not have a dorm room because getting one is based on a lottery of sorts? So do freshman always get first dibs on a dorm or is that by chance as well?

[Magami]

~First Post~
Hi....I'd thought I'd make this my first post, since I'm most certainly a Ringling hopeful....and I'm currently in the process of completing my CD portfolio for my tour & portfolio review on 8/22, and will be sure to apply anyway for the '08 school year. I'm really excited to go, and have heard a great things about this school's animation department/art curriculum in general, area(Sarasota! even though I'm all the way up here in NY)), and job placement. I just wanted to thank all those who provided helpful insight to allow me to have this school down as my first (quite possibly only, if all goes well) choice. And any further advice would be warmly welcomed.
So...yea. I'll be sure to post here again.

[thesinfulsaint]

Also, I have a friend in the illustration major, she tells me that next year she might not have a dorm room because getting one is based on a lottery of sorts? So do freshman always get first dibs on a dorm or is that by chance as well?
Yes, freshmen always get first dibs and are guaranteed housing. Since Ringling is admitting so many new freshmen each year, there's beginning to be a bit of a housing shortage. They were having a tough time finding a spot for everyone THIS year, and in the next couple of years Ringling is adding something like 5 new majors (Sculpture, Painting, Print-making, Business...and something else that I can't remember). They're starting to build a new building the size of the Student Center in January that's supposed to house only freshmen. You guys will probably be fine on housing for your freshmen year... there's just going to be a shortage when you get to be an upper classman. It's a lottery system for their dorms.

Magami-- Start a sketchbook thread of your portfolio work and I'd be glad to critique you specifically. :)

[Jodo]

Anyone know how important recommendation letters are? The site says I need atleast 2, but I've been out of school for about 2 years so I don't have any teachers to get a recommendation letter from.

[nilaffle]

Welcome to the club Magami :)

Jodo, the recommendation letters aren't nearly as important as the portfolio. There are a ton of students here who are several years out of school or haven't taken art classes. If you're unable to get academic recommendation letters, Ringling will take personal recommendation letters - from employers, friends, religious leaders, etc. who can testify as to your character. But even though you're two years out of school, you could still go back and ask a couple of your professors for help - I've done that.

[zeitgeist]

jodo, I've been out of school for 7 years. all my letters will be from employers etc. I'd love to go back to my old teachers... but their views would be quite outdated. two years isn't really that long ago... their letters should still hold up.

[Jodo]

I suppose you're right.

By the way, I started working on my portfolio (better late than never) to apply for GAD (and incidentally discovered the true meaning of low self esteem.)

I started a sketchbook (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106698) to try and better my chances.

[UriL]

Hey Everybody, I am new here :) Would like to firstly introduce myself, I am Uri, from Israel, I am interested in the Computer animation program.

I read the original topic, and Ringling's requirements, and I understand that traditional skills are very crucial. I was wondering, how they look upon a portfolio with 3D work? if it's good 3D work, will it still be ignored? I am mainly a 3d Artist, off course I am working now on a traditional portfolio, including life drawing's etc.. but I feel it will be weaker then my CG.

I was wondering what would you do in such a situation? My 3d contains modeling, lightning, animations etc..? I currently work a generalist 3d artist in a post production house, and really really want to get accepted to ringling fall 2008.

Thanks for the help.

[CatHicks]

UriL,

Do not add your 3D work to your portfolio.

No matter how good you believe it to be it is still unimpressive to these teachers. You must realize the caliber of work that these teachers see with seniors on a daily basis and compare that level to your own. You don't want them seeing something and thinking, "Oh gee! This needs so many corrections!", which is most likely what they will think.

Let me see your 3D stuff, just in case.

Keep it traditional. Work hard on spit polishing that 2D portfolio.

[UriL]

Hey CatHicks, You can check my site and let me know if it would be wise or not.

www.wizcg.com

Also I have about 2-3 monthes of Commercial Work Which is pretty high standart (well some is..) would adding
chops and pieces of it would do good?

Thanks.

[copperfire]

Hey there Uril! Wow, I must say after looking at your site, that's some awesome stuff! If it were me, I'd include some of your finished pieces, they look excellent! However, I'd only include one CG piece, one that I felt was industry standard, and my best work, the rest of your portfolio needs to be traditional still life, and figure drawings, Ringling also loves self portraits as well.

Again, very nice work!!!:}

[UriL]

Hey Copperfire, thanks for the advice..
I think I will add 1 max' 2 3d works.. there's one I am thinking of adding, and another which I am working on work, which contains underwater scenery, very colorfull and rich of movement and atmosphere, how's that?

Anyways, I only add 3d since my 2d is not "bad" or anything like that, it's simply non-existent, but I am learning now, I would love if you guys visit my sketchbook, hopefully i'll have something to show by the deadline. thanks alot!

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1463817#post1463817

[copperfire]

well, I've got my sketchbook up, I'll try and add more soon.

:tihi: Meh Sketchbook (http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1464035&posted=1#post1464035):tihi:

[CatHicks]

UriL I have sent you a PM.

[Magami]

I know I've yet to make a sketchbook, but I promise I'll get working on it.^^;
Can anyone who's had a portfolio review done when they visited the campus enlighten me on their experience?
Appreciated(and sorry if this was addressed looooong ago :S)

[thesinfulsaint]

I had a rep look at my portfolio when I visited during my junior year of high school. Basically, he looked through my art, told me which pieces were good, which ones I should probably throw out, etc. He also gave me a few tips about good material to include. You've all heard the drill--Work from life. Do figure. Try to capture some sort of motion in your art (if you're interested in animation). It was helpful for me because I hadn't created the majority of my portfolio work; I was able to mold mine specifically for Ringling.

However, you don't have to to go to Ringling to have a rep look at your work. Check out a National Portfolio Review day that's near you. (check out http://www.npda.org/) I HIGHLY recommend visiting one if you can. I got a lot of really great feedback from representatives from a bunch of art schools. Being critiqued by people who are actually responsible for admission is an excellent experience.

[Magami]

Oh dear...I've already set up a portfolio review on the same day (I have no choice in the matter unfortunately)...I hope I didn't jump into it too soon after a tour. As for that site...they're no reviews in my area in the near future...*trying not to be negative* I guess I needn't be, I'll just put up my work sometime this weekend and get needed feedback. Not to mention the guidence from my highly competent art teacher and the AP classes...anyway, thanks for the info.

[m.engdahl]

I am a hopeful (not probable) for the Animation program. I have no explanation as to why I want to go to Ringling of all schools, but hey, can't complain about beaches and sun if nothing else, right? ;)
I have about 50 liberal arts credits from North Park University, and I have a GPA of somewhere around 3.25. Would that be good enough to be a bonus factor for me?
Oh well... draw draw draw! :)

[copperfire]

I have about 50 liberal arts credits from North Park University, and I have a GPA of somewhere around 3.25. Would that be good enough to be a bonus factor for me?
Oh well... draw draw draw! :)

Holy COW, lucky you. I think Ringling only takes transfer credits with a grade of B or higher I hear, no C's :^^;: I hear Ringling is iffy about transfer credits, since most of their classes differ greatly from regular collage courses. I doubt you'll have much of a problem though, but if you read past posts, GPA is not as important as your portfolio, triple that if you're trying to get into the CA major.

[Richter]

In my case, Ringling took in 57 of my transfer credits. Those knocked out all the liberal arts and all but 2 electives. You'll definitely have a head start.

[Magami]

Sketchbook started, any input would be most appreciated! (though it's meager right now)

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107012

[thesinfulsaint]

GPA is not as important as your portfolio, triple that if you're trying to get into the CA major.
Not true! Not true! Artmessiah, a current CA sophomore, didn't get in the first time that he applied because he had a lousy GPA from high school. You don't have to have a 4.0 or anything like that, but you should probably shoot for at least a 2.5, possibly a 3.0 if you can.

[0535am]

you can include 3d work as long as you put emphasis on figure drawing
for my case, half of portfolio is 3d works, and the other half is a collection of around 30+ figure drawing studies.
you should look into nearby community college near you, and take an figure drawing classes if possible. once you understand the gesture, your figure will improve dramatically. Get some figure drawing books, and studies them. I would recommend Vilppu Drawing Manual, Force: Dynamic Life Drawing for Animators. I wouldn't recommend Bridgeman, just because his work is too styles.
At this point, do not care too much about shading on the figure, just focus get the dynamics, and the motions. I think it would be good if you can design your portfolio. I made DVD cover, along with Disc label, and DVD cases. Giving the admission a good impression on how you presenting your portfolio is important, which gives you a better chance to be accepted than those who just drag img files onto a disc.
Overall, Figure drawing is very important, and practice daily, because the more you draw, the better you get. I hope my post helps.:wink:

[UriL]

That's alot of great info 0535! helps a lot thanks.

Another question, is there any preference for earlier submitions? I mean if I send it by the 13th of january will I have a dis-advantage? Also what kind of format is most recomnded just a plain CD with some averge sized jpg's or something more high quality?

[Jodo]

I don't think it matters when you send it in as long as its before the deadline. I don't know for sure though.

I'm planning to send mine in sometime in December.

[copperfire]

Sending in a portfolio early is very helpful if you are aiming to get any scholarships.

[copperfire]

thesinfulsaint does have a point! :) Of course GPA needs to be higher then a 2.5 or so, but m.engdahl, since you've got a 3.25, you don't need to worry, that's helpful to have! But like I said before, at this point your portfolio will be a much bigger decision factor then your GPA if you're going for CA. So at this point that's where your focus should be. I'd love to see some of your work so far! :)

[nilaffle]

Just to reiterate what Betsy said, do not discount GPA as unimportant. Grades matter regardless of what school you're applying to. But m.engdahl, a GPA higher than 3.0 and lib arts credits put you in very good shape. Ringling is more accepting of lib arts transfer credits than studio credits.

UriL, there's no preference for earlier submissions. In fact, it's better for you to wait to send your portfolio so you have time to refine it. That's not to say you should wait so long that you miss the deadline. :) But Ringling does not have early decision preference. They review all the portfolios at the same time - after the deadline.

On the point of scholarships, again, sending your application early will not matter because financial aid has a different deadline... March 1 I believe? Ringling will have reviewed your application by then anyway. Of course, if you're talking about applying for scholarships outside of Ringling, then that's an entirely different process.

When I applied I sent a labeled CD with some high quality (around 300 dpi I think) JPEGs.

[artmessiah]

Ditto what Saint and Nilah said. BTW I'm loving how these Ringling threads take off. It's like a tradition or something now, lol.

[thesinfulsaint]

Yeah, definitely don't worry about sending your portfolio in early. I thought that I would do that last year, too, but I'm REALLY glad that I didn't. I think I sent mine around the 10th, and it was due the 15th. There's absolutely no preference to portfolios that are submitted early. Take your time and put your best effort forward. The CA faculty themselves are the ones who make the decisions for CA & GAD, and they look at everything all at once.

[Magami]

This information's great. So if they review my portfolio in person and aren't thrilled with everything, I can still submit the CD along with the application at a later date? Good...*nerves are slightly clouding judgment*
I'll keep working on it.

Edit: I just received the new Ringling catalog for '08 (Have yet to flip through it) If anyone has it....any comments?

[Jodo]

I'm curious. I have no transfer credits to speak of, how much of a bad thing is that?

[nilaffle]

Jodo, most freshmen straight out of high school will not have transfer credits - that's the norm. In which case, you just follow the curriculum outlined by Ringling for your major. Transfer credit only allows you a little more flex room for electives in your schedule.

[m.engdahl]

Bah, this whole applying to Ringling thing is tearing me apart! I want to be accepted NOW! ;)

[copperfire]

Bah, this whole applying to Ringling thing is tearing me apart! I want to be accepted NOW! ;)

Same here for sure :) !!! It's a pain having to get everything together though ><;
This thread is VERY helpful, everyone is so nice, AND they're all rocken artists! :} Besides, I don't have the first clue about most of this stuff I thought I did :dur:

So far I've tried to find complaints about Ringling, but everyone I've come across say they love it!
Well, except the price :teeth:

Anyway, I have a freshman friend in the illustration major that mentioned to me that early applicants have a better chance at getting some kind of "scholarships", what? I have no idea since she didn't go into further detail except that she had heard it from someone else. So, as of now I've heard different from everyone on the thread. I'm so confused. I checked the website and didn't find anything except stuff about financial aid. Can anyone shed some light on this?:^^;:

[m.engdahl]

There is a 10k scholarship for the no1 applicant in each field, renewable every year or something... its on the site somewhere :)

[Meloncov]

I'll almost certainly be applying for CA next year. I'm a little worried because my 3D skills (and to a lesser degree, my digital and traditional painting skills) are a lot better than my drawing skills. At least my 3d skills come from training at a respected art school, so hopefully that will be enough to convince them I didn't pick up bad habits. Plus, I have a year to improve.

[thesinfulsaint]

Again, to reiterate, there is NO preference to people who submit their portfolios early to those who submit them later. I know a couple of people who turned theirs in last minute, and they got scholarship money.

There is a cut off date for financial aid--this applies to the majors that have rolling admissions like Illustration, GIC, Photo, and basically all other majors besides CA and GAD. It was sometime in March last year; I'm sure it'll be something like that again this year. You can still be accepted for those majors after that date, provided there is room in the program. You are just not eligible for scholarship money.

Who's your friend, copperfire? :)

[Richter]

15 May

In the state of FL, you must submit your FAFSA by that date in order to be eligible for government aid

[copperfire]

Thanks everyone, thesinfulsaint, I feel easy knowing there is really no rush to get my portfolio in! :D I think I'll send it in around December.

Also, I dropped a liberal arts physics, o.O; but both my teacher and I agreed that even if I made A's on the rest of my tests I'd get a C, I hate the grading system in that class. You screw up on one test and you have no chance at an A, (only 3 tests!?) wish I spent more time on the rest of the chapter instead of the math -_-
But I didn't want to risk my GPA (3.6), I don't think I'll have any problems with one W on my transcript. I hope. Anyone else ever withdraw from a class?

[drd]

Although not this year, I probably will be applying later on. I'm only a Sophomore right now, and my entire High School art class (1st-4th years), headed over to Ringling last Friday. It was a great experience. While we were there we got some tours through the school by student guides, they took us through the animation department, the interior design building, etc.

The work that was in the Selby Gallery near the street was absolutely nostalgic (It was a faculty exhibition) I saw some figure paintings that blew me away. I was questioning whether some of them were even art, though, which saddened me =(. Somebody had included a print (framed) of The Last Supper by Da Vinci into one of their little set-ups, which isn't right. You shouldn't use someone else's work to make a part of yours, imo.

Then after that we headed over to the Ringling Museum and I got to see for the first time in my life, master paintings up close. They were by Rubens, they had to be at least 20 feet tall, larger than the walls of my house, it was so amazing to just stand there and stare up at them. I recognized almost all of them from seeing them on ARC.com, and then it just seemed to be a thumbnail, of no importance to me, really. I didn't really understand until I saw them in person. Then rest were by other artists I didn't know, but I did see some names I recognized, like Van Dyck, who I learned was a student of Rubens.

Anyways, I got a great vibe from the school, and I'll definitely apply when I can.

[Richter]

But I didn't want to risk my GPA (3.6), I don't think I'll have any problems with one W on my transcript. I hope. Anyone else ever withdraw from a class?
plenty. they dont have an effect on your GPA, just shows a 'W'

[Amaranthine]

It should be noted that some of the work in the faculty show is from not just the teachers of the different art departments but also from the liberal arts teachers, library staff, etc. So some of the art will naturally be more questionable then others as far as standard goes. I'm sure some of the figure paintings you saw were Hodges Soileau's. If anyone here is an illustration major, take Soileau for figure painting your junior year. He's just awesome.

[copperfire]

plenty. they dont have an effect on your GPA, just shows a 'W'

Thank god, well I think I'm ok then for now ::D I think I can still get pell grants as well.

[Crimm]

Hello everybody! I've been a lurker for about a year. I used to comment in the last Ringling thread, but stopped cuz I was second guessing myself again over my major. I've decided now that I am sure I want to do animation. (cuz as much as i'd want to do engineering, im clearly not meant for the intense math side of life. hehe)

So yea, I plan to lurk around here more now. : ) And I'm eager to go to the portfolio review down in San Diego. >.O It'll be quite a drive, but i reall need some advice before I send in my work for admission.

Oh, and I'm shooting for the Animation program if it wasn't clear. Pleasure to make your acquaintance. ^^

[quick Q] Do we have to RSVP for portfolio review day?

[Lieu]

drd! I totally saw your tour while I was on my break! I left figure drawing to go to my room in the SC, and I come back down and the lobby was packed with people! If you saw a blonde, short girl wearing a black ringling sweatshirt...who had a stupified look on her face...it was me. Haha, y'all caught me off guard!

Crimm, do you mean a national portfolio day? No, you don't need to rsvp for those. It's moslty just a lot of waiting in line. But it pays off- I got my portfolio accepted to MICA and Ringling (for illustration...later switched to CA) and a bunch of good advice.

[Magami]

Wow, in the span of one week, I got a second '08 Ringling cataloge, and the new poster distributed to schools, since my teacher already had one.
Oh, and I've finally updated my sketchbook.
Am I heading in the right direction ? >.>;

[thesinfulsaint]

You guys who are interested in CA and GAD... If you haven't actually seen the mystical "third floor", here's an interesting way to tour it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu9AIZqWawI.

[Jodo]

You guys who are interested in CA... If you haven't actually seen the mystical "third floor", here's an interesting way to tour it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu9AIZqWawI.

LOL. I'm at a loss of words, that's brilliant.


One of the comments on there says that non-CA students aren't allowed to be on the CA floor. Is ringling really that segregated between majors?

[thesinfulsaint]

:D It was a fun waste of a Saturday! (That's me and a friend on the sound effects, by the way)

One of the comments on there says that non-CA students aren't allowed to be on the CA floor. Is ringling really that segregated between majors?

I think it has to do with keeping our CA program secret (the part about only CAs being allowed on the floor). That's not entirely true, though, because there are tours there all of the time. Students are very cautious because Ringling is very protective of their intellectual property.

There is sort of a divide between majors, but I think there is a movement to improve that. It's just hard because as people move up through the years, they become more and more focused on their majors. CAs are always in the labs, Illustrators are always working hard on their projects... You get the idea.

[Amaranthine]

technically, you're not allowed in the labs unless you are a CA major. I've gone in a couple times during open lab hours to see some of the work my friends are doing but I generally have no reason to be up there as you're not allowed to log in to the computers unless you are CA. It sorta sucks but is understandable as they need the computers open for homework at all times. You're definitely welcome to walk around, check out the posters, etc etc. It's a pretty neat facility. I will say though that they're starting construction on two new buildings, one of which will be the new 2D (!!!!!) building for illustration and gic. It's really exciting and I can't wait to see that finished. It'll supposedly be ready for the 08-09 school year (my senior year) so that'll be a real treat.

[Jodo]

technically, you're not allowed in the labs unless you are a CA major. I've gone in a couple times during open lab hours to see some of the work my friends are doing but I generally have no reason to be up there as you're not allowed to log in to the computers unless you are CA. It sorta sucks but is understandable as they need the computers open for homework at all times. You're definitely welcome to walk around, check out the posters, etc etc. It's a pretty neat facility. I will say though that they're starting construction on two new buildings, one of which will be the new 2D (!!!!!) building for illustration and gic. It's really exciting and I can't wait to see that finished. It'll supposedly be ready for the 08-09 school year (my senior year) so that'll be a real treat.

That's awesome, I was kinda getting jealous that the 3d people get all the cool stuff.

[m.engdahl]

That's awesome, I was kinda getting jealous that the 3d people get all the cool stuff.

Im jealous of everyone that got into Ringling.... :} Although just thinking about applying has made me more productive than I have ever been!

[CatHicks]

Students are very cautious because Ringling is very protective of their intellectual property.



Betsy is right and I just want to quickly add the reasoning behind that. Ringling's CA department handles it's curriculum in the same way a feature film studio handles it's pipeline. The department is protective over it's information because it is what makes us so successful. Rival schools have tried and are finding ways to still try (I have stories...) to "get Ringling's secrets" and part of what CA does to prevent that is to set up guidelines concerning who can enter the labs, can or can't they take photos and video, ect.

Also, a second key reason for students of other majors being unable to log into our computers is because they cut that machine off from the render farm. We CAs need sleeping computers just as much as we need the computer we are logged in on. Though they may look like they are not being used, the CA workstations are constantly working as they are linked to the farm.

[Magami]

^That's quite informative...especially since I'm considering CA...I wouldn't be able to find much on that subject were it not for this thread.

[UriL]

I got today 2 things, the 2008 catalog, which disappointly is the same only with a different cover =/ (well for information about CA anyways). And a Letter with missing requirements for my appliance.. I was wondering, why do they Write : First letter of recommendation, portfolio.. etc , 2nd letter of recommendation? why do they separate it? Is there More influence to which I refer to as my First or Second letter? I know probably doesn't matter, Just wondering why they write it that way..

[m.engdahl]

Does anyone know if there are any student jobs on campus, or maybe assistant jobs? I am a welder by profession, and I can teach TIG and MIG/MAG. I understand Ringling teaches this to some extent for some classes. Anyone know?

[thesinfulsaint]

UriL--That is a strange way to phrase it. There's no difference in the importance of either letter. As long as the recommendation letters don't say anything bad (and why would you ask someone who would write a poor review of you?) you'll be fine.

m.engdahl-- You should definitely apply to be a lab monitor for the 3D design studios while you're here. This semester, the shift switches between two monitors, and only one of them knows how to weld. If you're a professional welder, you should be a shoo-in.

[m.engdahl]

That sounds really good. Even though the pay probably sucks (worked in the restaurant at North Park, just guessing the pay is about the same) every little penny is valuable to for that monster tuition+everything else fee.
BTW, what kind of welding do you guys mostly do over there?

Martin

[Magami]

I got today 2 things, the 2008 catalog, which disappointly is the same only with a different cover =/ (well for information about CA anyways).
There appeared to be a few different artists featured, from what I can see.
I guess.....

[nilaffle]

Ooh, I'd like to see the 2008 catalog.

I wouldn't expect a college catalog to change from year to year, as it's mostly stagnant information. Or were you talking about the design?

And UriL, yeah I have no idea why they did that. Might just be the person who wrote the letter didn't think to list them together or write "2 recommendation letters". Don't worry about it. :)

I have noooo clue about the welding m.engdahl, you might want to try and get in contact with the Core Studio department.

[Jodo]

PRetty much everything thats in the catalog can be found on their website.

[Magami]

It's nice to have something tangible though, I feel. [/pun]
and those not as computer savy around me have been able to benefit from them as well.

[thesinfulsaint]

BTW, what kind of welding do you guys mostly do over there?

We've just been doing some basic welding. Most people were making simple wire animal sculptures and making sure that the joints were together, etc. I made a monkey out of sheet metal, and I had to weld various parts together. We weren't doing anything overly involved, but it was definitely enough where I could have used some help at a couple of points.

[Richter]

I made a monkey out of sheet metal, and I had to weld various parts together.
have pictures?

[m.engdahl]

Yeah, pics would be awesome! About welding: I havent seen Ringling's equipment and whatnot, but judging by the picture I saw on facebook you guys are mostly using wire fed machines (mig/mag) right?

[drd]

drd! I totally saw your tour while I was on my break! I left figure drawing to go to my room in the SC, and I come back down and the lobby was packed with people! If you saw a blonde, short girl wearing a black ringling sweatshirt...who had a stupified look on her face...it was me. Haha, y'all caught me off guard!

Crimm, do you mean a national portfolio day? No, you don't need to rsvp for those. It's moslty just a lot of waiting in line. But it pays off- I got my portfolio accepted to MICA and Ringling (for illustration...later switched to CA) and a bunch of good advice.

I don't remember anyone else besides the people in the group and the tour guides, also there were 3 groups of us, since there isn't a possible way to shuttle 71 students around the campus at once. =P So I might not even have been in that group. Oh well

Hahah

[Magami]

So, what are the chances of someone getting accepted based just on portfolio review? I've heard of it happening before...

[Jollesslauds]

So, what are the chances of someone getting accepted based just on portfolio review? I've heard of it happening before...

I could be wrong, but I believe that if you're applying to either CA or GAD, you must submit a portfolio to the school so it can be reviewed by the faculty in that department. However, if you're aiming for any of the other majors, I think it is possible to be accepted at National Portfolio Day.

[Lieu]

An accepted portfolio does not guarentee your acceptence into the school. Your normal application, such at GPA, etc, needs to be reviewed as well. The only difference is that when you apply, you can just put the little slip of paper they give you inside your application instead of your slides/CD ;)

And yes, your portfolio will not be accepted at a portfolio day if your applying to GAD or CA. This is because the department heads decide who gets in, not the admissions people.

When I went to portfolio day I lied and said I was applying for illustration *haha* Of course, I applied for CA and included my portfolio with my application :}

[UriL]

Hey, I Saw all the time "3d design" now I understand it's no 3d as in CG, so what does this mean? as I heard alot of people say it's not very fun.. so just wondering.

[Meloncov]

Hey, I Saw all the time "3d design" now I understand it's no 3d as in CG, so what does this mean? as I heard alot of people say it's not very fun.. so just wondering.

Assuming it's the same as AP 3D design at a high school level, it's abstract sculpture.

[nilaffle]

3D Design deals in using various media to explore design elements; mass, form, shape, etc. The media and projects vary and can be both abstract and representational. It's not simply sculpture. It's basically a class to get you thinking about how forms interact in a 3D environment. Depends on your personality how much you'll like it. I have classmates who absolutely love it... some of us are not so enthusiastic, but that's mostly because it's challenging and we're not used to working in 3D. It all depends on your attitude and how seriously you take the class.

[Kamayari]

Thought I'd post an update, not that any of you remember who I am. benchmarking myself, i suppose? :]

Busy as hell between work (designing ads for a college newspaper) and school (one class at CCAD, three at a local community college for what I'd describe as "GPA redemption"). New portfolio is a long way from done, and as you all know, January 15 is coming. I only have to take these academic classes for one quarter, I believe, which will give me a tiny crunch-time window between that point in December and Game Art & Designs portfolio deadline.

My fear of failure is almost under control :]

So, how're all you other Fall '08 CA / GA&D hopefuls coming along? Anybody have some portfolio pieces (preferably observational) that they'd be willing to share? I think it's always good to know what your peers are doing/not doing :]
I'd be more than happy to post some of mine once I make some notable progress. So busy :[

Also, '07 guys, thanks for being here :D

[copperfire]

Hey everyone! Wow, lots of new faces! I need to catch up on everyone =3

So, I was looking though my portfolio at pieces I'm thinking of using, and noticed I don't have any paintings. Is it a good idea to include at least one painting if you're going into CA? Or is the medium you use in most of your pieces not that important?

[copperfire]

So, how're all you other Fall '08 CA / GA&D hopefuls coming along? Anybody have some portfolio pieces (preferably observational) that they'd be willing to share? I think it's always good to know what your peers are doing/not doing :]
I'd be more than happy to post some of mine once I make some notable progress. So busy :[

Also, '07 guys, thanks for being here :D

Hi Kamayar! :) Nah, I don't remember you, so sorry, but it's nice to meet a fellow o8 hopeful! I'm also taking community college classes as well, just so I can get some liberal arts classes out of the way, I hope that might make Ringling's tuition cheaper too :P I have some figure drawings and unfinished pieces (I should polish I guess) in my sketchbook I think I might use, but I dunno. Anyway, I'm eager to see some of your work! So hurry up and post some XD

[artmessiah]

3D Design deals in using various media to explore design elements; mass, form, shape, etc. The media and projects vary and can be both abstract and representational. It's not simply sculpture. It's basically a class to get you thinking about how forms interact in a 3D environment. Depends on your personality how much you'll like it. I have classmates who absolutely love it... some of us are not so enthusiastic, but that's mostly because it's challenging and we're not used to working in 3D. It all depends on your attitude and how seriously you take the class.

This is my all time FAVORITE class\w/ :P Nilah you know it to be true ;).

[Odyism]

So I have a dilemma. I'm not sure if I want to major in Illustration or Game Art + Design. For the most part I'm more interested in the concept art of game design, but not so much the actual animation and modeling aspect. But I've never done any real animation, so I don't know if I'll actually love (or hate) it.
But part of me says Ringling has one of the best (if not the best) animation curriculums in the nation, so I feel like I shouldn't pass up the opportunity to apply to CA + GAD (especially other schools have pretty good illustration programs).

But then I feel like Illustration will allow me to be alot more versatile and still work on GAD (and the minor is visual development looks amazing).

So do you guys think I should apply to GAD (where the acceptance rate seems to be alot lower) or go for Illustration?

[nilaffle]

This is my all time FAVORITE class Nilah you know it to be true .
Oh of course, in fact every time I see you all we talk about is how awesome you think 3D Design is. Do you need to rub your love of wire sculptures in my face online too? :p

Odyism: Hi! Check out this thread (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107569), there are some perspectives shared there that may be of help to you. :)

[Jodo]

@odyism,

I had a similar dilema but now I'm pretty much set on Illustration. The whole 3d thing doesn't interest me much. I've been leaning towards Illustration more than 3d anyways which probably means thats what i should do. I have a feeling that if i did apply for GAD then i would simply end up switching to Illustration anyways.

There are more than a few Ringling grads who are working as concept artists in the game industry that started as CA and switched to illustration.

[Red_Rook]

So, what are the chances of someone getting accepted based just on portfolio review? I've heard of it happening before...

I was, as a sophomore transfer student, and on good faith that i had completed a core year somewhere else, they where pretty good about it, not to ruin the mistique for everyone but acceptance rates arent as astronomically low as you think, its not THAT hard to get accepted.

Segregation between other majors isn't nearly as high as with ca, gic and illustration ae pretty close, they share a building and some labs etc, which is a very good thing (we are mostly type retarded). We dont have any special intellectual property to hide away like the ca's its a different kind of information we get taught.

Most of the concept artist type kids are illustrators, who just gear their work towards it, if your doing ca your learning how to model and animate, and all though I havent seen much of game art i suspect its alot more modelling animating, map building, theory of game design maybe, probably no coding, but there are so many tiny things that go into a video game, concentrate on drawing.

Do illustration and draw alot, you can always apply that to whatever you want, its up to you to educate yourself about whats good design or not, the faculty will help you and there are concept designy classes here open to illustrators but from what ive heard from all the people that have taken them they are a pretty big waste of time its kinda like free drawing environment,s or character or whatever, its not going to teach you critical design thinking, concentrate instead on learning how to draw and learn how make a good picture and you will get alot more mileage out of it.

I know ca is famous, but that doesnt mean illustration isnt good, acctually we probably have one of the best illustration departments in the country right now, its certainly up there.

edit: James Gurney, the dino topia guy is coming to do a demo tommorow too :D im excited.

[nilaffle]

Hey Red Rook, do you know if those concept designy classes were part of the visual development minor?

Feh, I'm gonna miss the Gurney demo today, I've got work. Ah well, I'll just quiz other people on how it went later. :p

[Red_Rook]

Yeah those are the ones, from what ive heard though if you already hanging out in a place like this, not really worth your time, but in all honesty this is second hand information, im not super sure. Dont take my word for it.

[Magami]

Great response Red Rook, thank you. I'll be applying for CA myself.
]

So, how're all you other Fall '08 CA / GA&D hopefuls coming along? Anybody have some portfolio pieces (preferably observational) that they'd be willing to share? I think it's always good to know what your peers are doing/not doing :]
I'd be more than happy to post some of mine once I make some notable progress. So busy :[

Thanks. Here:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1490393#post1490393

I have a question myself...what pixel size if preferable to be read on a CD, you guys think? I have my own ideas, but it doesn't hurt to ask I guess.
Also, in .jpeg, yes?

[thesinfulsaint]

The Gurney presentation was awesome. :) We've had a lot of great illustration guest speakers over the past two months. It makes me proud to go here! With speakers like him coming to Ringling it really shows the strength of our illustration department. It's awesome for us CAers, too.

Magami, I think the largest dimension I made any of my images on my CD portfolio was 800 pixels. Don't submit anything too small, but if you submit work at ridiculously high resolutions, it just makes more work for the portfolio reviewers. I would say between 500 and 1000 pixels for the largest dimension, depending on the piece.

[Magami]

Got it.
My portfolio is more or less finished now. Many thanks to everyone here.^^

[Red_Rook]

They wont be printing them out, make them look nice on the screen, slightly on the larger side then smaller, they will be happy with that.

[m.engdahl]

Seems Im no longer a hopeful :/
I contracted antibiotic resistant pneumonia a couple of weeks back and will be spending at least 2 more weeks in the hospital. Im not giving up Ringling just yet, but it just got a tad harder for me :(

[Magami]

^Oh dear...what's more important is your life, of course. Plus you have at least a few more months should you press on with it...feel better.

I just came back to say I'm looking forward to visiting tomorrow. First college visit EVA. >.>;;;; Needless to say, in my excitement comes a bit of nervousness.^^;

[CherryLunar]

^Oh dear...what's more important is your life, of course. Plus you have at least a few more months should you press on with it...feel better.

I just came back to say I'm looking forward to visiting tomorrow. First college visit EVA. >.>;;;; Needless to say, in my excitement comes a bit of nervousness.^^;

Get better m.engdahl. Like Magami said, you have a few months left to get back up to speed. Be sure to use your time wisely and join us back in the hopefuls corner. :wink:

Be sure to share when you get back Magami. We're looking forward to it. At least I am anyways. :confident

[nilaffle]

I'm sorry to hear that m.engdahl, but don't give up hope! :) For now just concentrate on getting better.

Hey Magami, was that you who stopped into the traditional animation lab today around 2:30? I was one of the girls in the back hard at work on our latest project. Hope you enjoyed your tour, and yes, do share. :)

[Magami]

Was Bugs Bunny in the on the big screen in the bg? =P I loved that room especially.
Yes, I was the only one on tour, with my dad. XD Nice guy named Hymie (sophomore) took us around.
I think I'm hooked. =P (Sorry I can't talk more, at the airport right at this moment...)

[artmessiah]

Was Bugs Bunny in the on the big screen in the bg? =P I loved that room especially.
Yes, I was the only one on tour, with my dad. XD Nice guy named Hymie (sophomore) took us around.
I think I'm hooked. =P (Sorry I can't talk more, at the airport right at this moment...)

I saw you guys. I wanted to hype on Ringling more than Hymie, but I figured he was doing the tour so I kept my trap shut. You'll love Ringling. Lotz of hard work, but hey it's work we love to do. The fact that we were watching (actually studying) Looney tunes cartoons tells you what we are about - great animation, - that is if your going for CA. :D

[Magami]

I believe I am. That traditional animation room really stirred something within me, from my childhood actually.
As for the portfolio review....t'was short & sweet.
I was a bit surprised when Amy Fisher said she'd like to see even more pieces in my portfolio, but I have no qualms about it.

[CheesecakeBree]

-First post-

I'm another Ringling hopeful for 2008! I actually lurked in the 2007 hopefuls thread before, and it was a huge help to me in decision making (so thanks to everyone who shared there). I'm glad I checked back to find this thread for '08. I decided I'd finally join in, too.

So, to introduce myself: my name is Bree Lundberg, and I'm planning to apply for Illustration. I already have a 2-year General AA Degree from a local community college. I graduated with honors and a GPA of 3.8 back in December, and I've been taking some extra art classes to keep myself working in the meantime. I was home schooled throughout my early education and high school, so I dual-enrolled and fulfilled my high school credits at the same time as my college ones.

I visited the Ringling campus a couple months ago and it seemed wonderful. (At least what I got to see of it! I didn't get to look in the illustration building, supposedly they were painting the floors...?) I also spoke with an admissions counselor, she was extremely helpful and nice.

From my visit and everything I've read and researched, I have a pretty good idea of what Ringling expects in your portfolio, what else I'll need to apply, etc. But I do have some more questions that came to mind while I spent the better part of an hour reading through this thread. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it!

1) Someone mentioned here that they won't accept transfer credits with grades lower than a B. When I talked to the counselor, she looked over my unofficial transcript (I have one C in College Algebra) and she didn't say anything about that. In fact, she even told me all my liberal arts would be fine. So, is this just rumor?

2) Do transfer students get better pick of dorms? I seem to remember reading this on their site, but someone mentioned earlier about something different.

3) Is the first year really such a joke? I've read elsewhere that the core classes are not at all challenging. Although I'm a transfer student, the admissions counselor said I might not have what I need to skip much in terms of art classes. (The couple of classes I would still need aren't offered at my community college!)

4) For the art classes that I will be able to transfer, is there anything special I have to show in my portfolio for them? i.e. a certain number of examples from each class or to label them differently?

5) I noticed a lot of hopefuls on here are coming straight from high school. I'm 20 now, and I'll be 21 by next fall. Is this an average age? I don't want to be out of place, especially if I get stuck in freshmen year.

[zeitgeist]

cheesecake...
question five.
im 26. from what i've gathered... there's a lot of students straight out of HS... but plenty of people in their 20s. I doubt you'll really feel outa place... and if you do... just flash your "i can purchase alcohol license" and you should make friends pretty fast! :vodka1:

just kidding... you should be right as rain.

[MDurante]

My first post as well.

Ringling is on my short-list for 2008, illustration. Thanks everyone for the great information in this thread.


5) I noticed a lot of hopefuls on here are coming straight from high school. I'm 20 now, and I'll be 21 by next fall. Is this an average age? I don't want to be out of place, especially if I get stuck in freshmen year.

I'm 33! Or maybe 34, I'm not really sure and I don't want to know. If you're out of place, I'll be out of this world or out of my mind. Or something.

- Matthew Durante

[CheesecakeBree]

cheesecake...
question five.
im 26. from what i've gathered... there's a lot of students straight out of HS... but plenty of people in their 20s. I doubt you'll really feel outa place... and if you do... just flash your "i can purchase alcohol license" and you should make friends pretty fast! :vodka1:

just kidding... you should be right as rain.

Oh right, I'm sure I'll get real popular fast being legal! :vodkamachine:

But seriously, thanks for your reply. Since my only college experience has been at the community college, I wasn't sure what I should expect. It's nice to know there's a good number of 20's and up. I usually get along best with people my age or older.

[CheesecakeBree]

My first post as well.

Ringling is on my short-list for 2008, illustration. Thanks everyone for the great information in this thread.



I'm 33! Or maybe 34, I'm not really sure and I don't want to know. If you're out of place, I'll be out of this world or out of my mind. Or something.

- Matthew Durante

Matt - I'd hang with you!

[nilaffle]

Welcome CheesecakeBree! I'm a 25-year-old transfer sophomore in the CA program, I started this year. I'll try to answer some of your questions.

2) Define "better pick." Do you mean transfers get to pick their housing, or they are placed in better housing? I did not have an opportunity to choose housing; where Residence Life placed me is where I am. But because of my age I was placed in Family Housing, which is basically apartment-style living. Most transfers I know were either placed in the Quadrangle (another apartment complex) or the Cove (dorm)... though I know of one transfer who was placed in a typically traditional-age residence hall. Generally I think Ringling tries to match you up with a roommate of a similar age (my roommate's 27), unless you get a single.

4) Doubtful. I submitted my portfolio before I even knew I had the option of transferring credits for core. A lot of my pieces were done outside of the classroom. As it turned out all my core-related credits transferred and the only class I have to take is 3D Design. I think the CA department was more concerned with how strong my drawing abilities were overall (especially figure), rather than what sort of exercises I completed in class. They will look at the skill you exhibit in your work as well as your transcript.

5) You will definitely not be out of place. Many students here have previous college experience, and some of us are much much older. :) There are a ton of 20-somethings. Don't worry about fitting in.

That goes for you too MDurante, there are other students in their 30's. Age doesn't matter. We're all one big happy family. :D

[thesinfulsaint]

I don't feel like CORE is a joke this week... I have to make a sculpey skeleton, finish making a sculpey toy & package it, do a painting, complete an 18" x 24" charcoal drawing, and I have an art history test next Thursday! It's a busy week!

CORE kind of goes in phases. There will be some weeks where I don't have much homework and others where I have quite a load (like this week). I'm sure it's not as challenging as future years will be, but it's nice to have a year to settle in and improve. I'm probably sounding like a hypocrite to Nilah right now because every time I see her I whine about how I wish I was a sophomore. :P

[CheesecakeBree]

Thanks thesinfulsaint and nilaffle! That's good to hear that I probably won't need specific examples from my previous classes. I took Drawing 1 during my first semester at the community college, which was back in 2003 so I'd be embarrassed to show examples of classwork from so long ago. If it's just based on demonstrating that those classes taught me something, then I can definitely show that.

When the admissions counselor looked over my transcript, she mentioned that the classes I'm missing that I'd need to possibly skip the first year would be 3D Design, Color Theory, and another advanced and/or figure drawing class. The only one of those available at my community college is 3D... I could always try to see if one of my professors would be willing to do independent studies for the others, but I don't know if it's worth it (or even possible). I'd love to get a good foundation with Ringling's core classes, but at the same time, I want to save money and save time.

If some of my classes will transfer and fill the core requirements, and some don't, will I just end up doing what core classes I'm missing for the first semester? I don't want to end up spending an extra semester there just to do one or two classes. I guess I'm making this a little more complicated than it should be, but I feel like such a college-moron! :dur: Neither of my parents went to college, and community college was far from a "real" college experience. It's a little overwhelming and my situation is unique making all sorts of new problems. Thanks everyone for your help so far, though.

[artmessiah]

Hi CheesecakeBree like Nilah said, you won't feel out of place if you're 18, 20 or 30 somethin - there is wide range of age differences in CA and illustration alone not to mention the entire student body. I'm a transfer sophomore as well, but I was ready to go in as a freshman knowing that the experience would be great. You may be able to bypass most if not all core class, but you have to make sure that addmissions honors you existing credits. If you can, take a figure drawing and sculpture class. Sculpture with be considered 3d design and the figure class will hopefully get in as a sophomore - no guarantees tho. It can get overwhelming, but once you're in the hard part is not taking the smile off your face when you get here and graduate.

BTW Saint enjoy your CORE classes cause it gets hectic sophomore year ha, ha.

[copperfire]

If you can, take a figure drawing and sculpture class. Sculpture with be considered 3d design and the figure class will hopefully get in as a sophomore - no guarantees tho.


First off, hi CheesecakeBree! Nice to meet a fellow Ringling hopeful! And second, I think it was I that mentioned you had to have a C or better for transfer credits, and like I said, that was something I heard, but I found this on the website:

"If you have taken Liberal Arts courses at another college/university, those courses will be evaluated by the academic advisors in the Office of Advising, Records, and Registration Services to determine if they meet the degree requirements for the Bachelor of Fine Arts Degree. The number of Liberal Arts classes completed has no bearing on your class level. Only studio classes determine your class level. Students enrolling with an Associate of Arts or a Bachelor of Arts degree from a regionally accredited college or university will be considered to have met the Liberal Arts requirements for the BFA degree. Students with an International Baccalaureate diploma may be given credit for individual liberal arts courses if they score 5 through 7 on the IB Higher-Level Examinations.

Transfer Credits



Transfer credit is granted for college-level courses earned at a regionally or NASAD accredited institution of higher education for which you received a grade of “C” or better that meet a course requirement for your degree program. Grades do not transfer and do not affect your Ringling College of Art and Design GPA. Studio credits are evaluated for transfer credit by the Office of Admissions. Liberal Arts credit is evaluated by the Office of Advising, Records and Registration "

Hope that helps!

Anyway, a big Thanks artmessiah! You just helped me figure out what to take next semester at my community college :)! I was thinking of taking sculpting, but now it's a definite. Although I've already taken figure drawing. So far I'm thinking of taking a liberal arts writing class, art history 1, and....well, still trying to figure that one out.....

[CheesecakeBree]

... "Transfer credit is granted for college-level courses earned at a regionally or NASAD accredited institution of higher education for which you received a grade of “C” or better that meet a course requirement for your degree program. Grades do not transfer and do not affect your Ringling College of Art and Design GPA. Studio credits are evaluated for transfer credit by the Office of Admissions. Liberal Arts credit is evaluated by the Office of Advising, Records and Registration " ...

Thanks for looking that up, copperfire!

... I'm a transfer sophomore as well, but I was ready to go in as a freshman knowing that the experience would be great. You may be able to bypass most if not all core class, but you have to make sure that addmissions honors you existing credits. If you can, take a figure drawing and sculpture class. Sculpture with be considered 3d design and the figure class will hopefully get in as a sophomore - no guarantees tho. It can get overwhelming, but once you're in the hard part is not taking the smile off your face when you get here and graduate. ...

I've taken two pottery courses and admissions said I might be able to put them towards a 3D credit depending on what examples I had to show. I've also taken two drawing courses already, but I was told I would need another one on in addition to those. The community college doesn't offer anything beyond Drawing 2 (which was basically a figure drawing class), and color theory isn't offered at all. I'm not sure what else I can do beyond seeing if I could get a professor to do independent study for me (like I mentioned before).

I just didn't know if it was common for transfers to end up as freshmen or not. But if it's not a huge deal, then I can make peace with it.

[nilaffle]

Betsy: Hahahahah of course I don't think you're hypocritical. But I can't wait to see your reaction to sophomore year. :tihi:

I think the core curriculum's one of those things that you really don't appreciate right away. Maybe in a year or a few years you'll start to see the benefit. In my case, if it weren't for my year spent at the Art Institute of Washington, I probably wouldn't be here.

I just didn't know if it was common for transfers to end up as freshmen or not.
It's actually less common for transfers to enter as sophomores. I think it says somewhere on the site that transfers are accepted as freshmen - you're only bumped to sophomore if you've completed a good portion of first-year classes and the department thinks your portfolio is strong enough (I don't know the details of the illustration process, but the computer animation dept. is pretty critical of this). If you're able to knock out some courses in community college then that's great. But don't worry about having to reach some sort of level of completion by the time you enroll. Even if you have just a couple of transfer credits, that's putting you ahead of the game.

[Bubstar]

Hi y'all I just want to share my experience as almost attending Ringling as a sophomore illustration transfer. I pretty much took all my art classes at my local community college really made sure I spoke to the great folks in admission about my classes and what I was covering and just tried to show my strong points. I was told it depends on the portfolio and what skills you had established besides having the credits. For illustration I was told figure drawing is a must to show your familiar with the human body and showing familiarity with working with various mediums and familiarity with some concepts covered in core year is important as well.
I tried to get constant advice and feedback on what I needed to show, also kept them updated on the classes I was taking and found out what they suggested to take next(which ended up being every art class my college had).
Well I didn't get to go this fall and was pretty pissed but I am thinking about applying again for next fall if I can get my immigration issues straightened soon. By the way I am 27 now and will be 28 next fall hopefully I will be there. I know the info on transferring has been said before by Nilaffle and Artmessiah, just wanted to add my two cents. :)

[CheesecakeBree]

...It's actually less common for transfers to enter as sophomores. I think it says somewhere on the site that transfers are accepted as freshmen - you're only bumped to sophomore if you've completed a good portion of first-year classes and the department thinks your portfolio is strong enough (I don't know the details of the illustration process, but the computer animation dept. is pretty critical of this). If you're able to knock out some courses in community college then that's great. But don't worry about having to reach some sort of level of completion by the time you enroll. Even if you have just a couple of transfer credits, that's putting you ahead of the game.

Thanks, nilaffle. Since I've already graduated with an AA, all my liberal arts are taken care of so that alone should save me a lot of money. I guess I shouldn't worry so much about the freshmen thing then. My only concern was that most transfers ended up as sophomores, and I'd feel left behind. Thanks for the reassurance! By the way everyone is talking, it sounds like doing freshman year isn't a bad thing and it's beneficial even for those with previous college-level art class experience.

Bubstar - Good luck! I hope we can both make it in '08. :teeth:

[CatHicks]

Betsy: Hahahahah of course I don't think you're hypocritical. But I can't wait to see your reaction to sophomore year. :tihi:



You think it's tough now? Oh boy. Hold on to your butt. Wait till next semester. That's when it starts for real.

But yeah, I agree. CORE is baby play compared to what you will be doing (as a CA) in future years. I look back and cannot believe how much time I had on my hands my freshman year. Freshman don't realize how good they've got it. It almost could be treated as a year off compared to what's ahead. However CORE is extremely beneficial and everyone should really go out of their way to do their very best in those classes. You don't come to recognize it's impact on you as an artist until a good while later, however.

[nilaffle]

Bubstar, you should definitely apply for next year. I hope you get those issues straightened out, we want to see you in the fall!

You think it's tough now? Oh boy. Hold on to your butt. Wait till next semester. That's when it starts for real.
HAHA you're telling me. This year's transfer sophomore class has Traditional Animation II, Computer Animation II, Concept II, and History of Animation all at once (plus one class for the students who still have core/lib requirements to fulfill)....

Thanks, nilaffle. Since I've already graduated with an AA, all my liberal arts are taken care of so that alone should save me a lot of money.
Worst case scenario, since you've got a degree, is you'll have tons of time in your four years to take any elective you want. That enrichment time really comes in handy. :)

[m.engdahl]

Traditional Animation II, Computer Animation II, Concept II, and History of Animation..... Im popping a vein with excitement over here! Now, how to get in and how to pay... hmm... if there is a will there is a way :)

[Bubstar]

Bubstar, you should definitely apply for next year. I hope you get those issues straightened out, we want to see you in the fall!
Thanks Nilah I have to make sure i get there next year this time since I am wanted there apparently by a few people. :D Plus my whole fixation with going there and a life in the art field. :)


Bubstar - Good luck! I hope we can both make it in '08. :teeth:
Yeah most definitely good luck to you as well Cheesecake , the next few months are going to be interesting :).

[Killer Napkins]

thats where i wanted to transfer from my community college for awhile... they accepted my portfolio when we had a portfolio day at school... the rep said they dont give out very big scholarships... which is what i need because i dont have a lot of money and im living in Missouri right now... do you people think it's worth the money?...

Im sure i could get scholarships from other things like that jsut around, but i dunno.. i really need a school to transfer to fall 08... and I'm still not sure..

[Magami]

I'm checking out fastweb.com myself....and asking around for art contests for scholarships. Atm I'm still in the process of modifying my portfolio and seeing if I should even bother applying to SCAD as a backup (my parents want me too, but they're an entirely different animal in their own right, and its not even my first choice. -_- )

[CheesecakeBree]

Worst case scenario, since you've got a degree, is you'll have tons of time in your four years to take any elective you want. That enrichment time really comes in handy. :)

Yeah, I'd love to take some fun electives! I was looking over some of the course descriptions and was practically drooling, it all sounds so amazing. I love drawing first and foremost, but I enjoy all types of art... it would be great to learn more about everything.

I'm checking out fast.web.com myself....and asking around for art contests for scholarships. Atm I'm still in the process of modifying my portfolio and seeing if I should even bother applying to SCAD as a backup (my parents want me too, but they're an entirely different animal in their own right, and its not even my first choice. -_- )

Ew... SCAD. I considered it at first, but I'm not that impressed with what I've heard about it since. After I learned more about Ringling and visited, it has been my one and only choice!

I heard that you shouldn't be scared to apply for expensive schools. The more you can't afford it, the more aid you're likely to get (not necessarily from the school itself but from the government, etc). I can't afford Ringling at all... but somehow we'll make it work. Worst case scenario is getting student loans.

[David Kassan]

Ringling is an awesome school. I almost went there. It was btwn SVA, Syracuse, and Ringling back in 95 when I was deciding which school to go to. I chose Syracuse cause that was were my Brother and Dad went to school, and they have a great Art History Dept, and I didn't really see much of a difference in the art schools, Probably cause I didn't know what to look for, I should have applied to Art Center but I didn't even know about the place. I visited Ringling in 04 and was shown the place by some guy named James Dean who was a dean there. Really strange. LOL I know of a lot of friends of mine that were at SVA at the time I would have been there as well some folks from Ringling. I definalty think that the top teir art schools are worth the price for undergrad, not much for grad school. though usually the illo programs are better for preparing you for when you get out, cause you are all on your own at that point. I'm not sure Syracuse is very good anymore, it sounds like they only have a few good teachers there now cause of a new chancellor that is fucking the place up, They do have Jerome Witkin though who is a monster with the brush, really underrated. imho. I think you are good to go if you can get into Art Center, SVA or Ringling, But any place is only as good as you want to make it and its up to you to take advantage of everything these schools have to offer, every great artist that I know that have come out of these schools really work like there is a fire under them. I didn't get to read through this whole thread so sorry if I'm repeating anything, this is just some observations of mine about the schools. I think I'm going to retire to Ringling some day. :) lol

[CheesecakeBree]

... But any place is only as good as you want to make it and its up to you to take advantage of everything these schools have to offer, every great artist that I know that have come out of these schools really work like there is a fire under them. I didn't get to read through this whole thread so sorry if I'm repeating anything, this is just some observations of mine about the schools. I think I'm going to retire to Ringling some day. lol

Wise words, I'll take them to heart. :confident

Seeing some of the artwork by all of you makes me want to stick my hands in a blender. Yet a small part of me is inspired to work harder, so I just need to focus on that.

[CheesecakeBree]

I thought of a couple more questions (besides the few in my first post) that maybe some of those already at Ringling can answer:

6) Is the crime in the area as bad as its reputation? I've heard stories of hookers, drug-dealers, vandals, etc.

7) How's the food? :P

8 ) Is there anything to do in Sarasota besides the beach and downtown shopping? I'm from a small town, so I'm used to not having many options... but I was hoping when I moved away that it would be a step up! When I visited the school with my mom we checked out the beach, did a little shopping, and went to the Ringling museum. Nobody could offer any suggestions beyond those, making me think there's not a whole lot else the city has to offer.

[copperfire]

Well, the online applications are up again, and I wanna know, how long was everyone's essay typically? Is it even that important?

[Richter]

6) Is the crime in the area as bad as its reputation? I've heard stories of hookers, drug-dealers, vandals, etc. just stay within the campus area and you'll be fine. Dont walk down MLK when the sun goes down


7) How's the food? :P
the rice is nasty. Nasty rice = nasty food
The full-meal plan is a requirement for *most* freshman


8 ) Is there anything to do in Sarasota besides the beach and downtown shopping?there's the Selby Botanical Gardens, drove by it a bunch of times, never been in it though :-/
~45 min drive to Tampa :D

[CheesecakeBree]

Richter - Thanks!

copperfire - Good question. I haven't started on my essay yet, and I don't remember anyone else mentioning how long they should be, so I don't know either.

[nilaffle]

Well, the online applications are up again, and I wanna know, how long was everyone's essay typically? Is it even that important?
Haha, when I first saw your question I thought oh, about a page should be sufficient, but out of curiosity I dug up my Ringling essay to see how long it was. 354 words... barely a half-page single-spaced. Haha, why did they accept me? XD Can't remember if there's a word count, but my feeling is quality over quantity.

As for crime... heh, the town around my old school had the same sort of problems, and it's probably even safer than Sarasota. :p You're going to encounter that stuff pretty much everywhere. Just keep your doors locked and don't go walking around alone at night like Richter said. Practice the same personal safety that you would anywhere else and you'll be fine.

[CheesecakeBree]

Haha, when I first saw your question I thought oh, about a page should be sufficient, but out of curiosity I dug up my Ringling essay to see how long it was. 354 words... barely a half-page single-spaced. Haha, why did they accept me? XD Can't remember if there's a word count, but my feeling is quality over quantity.

I'm sure they were 354 top-quality words. I happened upon your blog, your writing is superb!

As for crime... heh, the town around my old school had the same sort of problems, and it's probably even safer than Sarasota. :p You're going to encounter that stuff pretty much everywhere. Just keep your doors locked and don't go walking around alone at night like Richter said. Practice the same personal safety that you would anywhere else and you'll be fine.

I'm cautious to begin with, so I shouldn't have to worry then. I was wondering if most stories were blown out of proportion by young students who've never been in the real world. You're right, everywhere can be dangerous. It's not a good idea to walk any streets alone at night.

[Bubstar]

I am writing an essay as well, I started my online application and I am adding some new pieces to my portfolio since some of the of the original pieces make me I cringe when I look at them :(.
Since the area is somewhat "dangerous" I guess I can't stagger around drunk at 2 in the morning complaining loudly about the hundreds of dollars in twenties making taking up too much room in my wallet. Oh man that's my favorite thing to do :).

[Jodo]

I guess I can't stagger around drunk at 2 in the morning complaining loudly about the hundreds of dollars in twenties making taking up too much room in my wallet. Oh man that's my favorite thing to do :).

You too?! :O

[Bubstar]

You too?! :O
Thank goodness I am not the only one...sniff sniff . My neighbors tend to complain and on occasion call the cops. Sorry my joke is rather tasteless, there is nothing funny what so ever about being possibly mugged while drunk :D.

I was expecting have to submit some new information to Ringling all I had to actually do was reactivate my application and here I was with all these plans :(. Oh well I will still be doing a lot of work to keep on pushing my abilities.

Good luck to you Jodo may we both be there next fall :)

[thesinfulsaint]

The food? I think a lot of people complain more than they need to. Our food is pretty good compared to many other college campuses. There are days when it is better than others (particularly nights when Chartwells comes to check up on us), but overall, it's a little above mediocre. The salad bar and the sandwich bar are always reliable options.

I haven't really run into a lot of crime, but then, I don't get off campus much. There are some shady characters around, but as long as you're with a group, you should be safe.

As far as things to do off campus... Really, the beach, shopping, and the museum are about it. There's a decent movie theater in the downtown area, but really... there's not much else. Then again, there won't be much time for off campus activities after a year or so anyway. We have plenty of fun on-campus activities, though. Last weekend we took a trip to Busch Gardens and it only cost $15--that's including transportation.

[UriL]

hey I have a question to any Non-American speaking native students of the school.. what exactly is the process of sending in my transcripts, do I translate them with the help of a lawyer? Or do I simply send both original and translated version to the school? I mean what is the process of making these paper authentic and reliable.

[CheesecakeBree]

I am writing an essay as well, I started my online application and I am adding some new pieces to my portfolio since some of the of the original pieces make me I cringe when I look at them :(.
Since the area is somewhat "dangerous" I guess I can't stagger around drunk at 2 in the morning complaining loudly about the hundreds of dollars in twenties making taking up too much room in my wallet. Oh man that's my favorite thing to do :).

I haven't even started my portfolio yet. I know of a few things I want to include already, but as for the rest, I plan to make new pieces and tailor it to what they like to see (like lots of figure studies). I don't have many "finished" works from my drawing 2 class, it was a lot of gestural/loose studies of figures with charcoal... and I heard that Ringling likes to see more finished pieces.

Haha, yeah, you'll have to cut back on the drunken wandering!!

hey I have a question to any Non-American speaking native students of the school.. what exactly is the process of sending in my transcripts, do I translate them with the help of a lawyer? Or do I simply send both original and translated version to the school? I mean what is the process of making these paper authentic and reliable.

I'd assume they would want to see the original, since for US students they want it to come directly from the school to ensure it's official. You might have to contact an admissions counselor directly to know for sure.

I actually had a problem with my high school diploma. They wanted one recognized by the state, but I was home schooled, and they won't accept that. Even though I fulfilled my requirements as required by the state, it's not considered "accredited" because I wasn't part of an umbrella school or anything. An admissions counselor looked into the issue for me and they're willing to waive it (thank goodness) because I do have a two year degree already. They definitely need to update their admission policies for home schoolers, though. There was no way I was going to take the GED after I had legitimately done high school course work plus two years of college! :rolleyes:

[copperfire]

Awww man, I don't feel like typing an essay....ugh.
Anyway, I have a question about jobs in the area, are they easy to find? Also, how many Ringling students have jobs? Are they a must? Do you have time for them?

[CatHicks]

Copper,

It depends on your year and major. Freshman year, yeah. You'll have time for a job. Sometimes sophomore year. As a CA, most likely not.. at least during second semester sophomore year. Though it really all depends on how well you are able to manage time. However you can't rush art, remember. I have a lot of CA friends who have on-campus jobs to earn spending money. They usually work one or two days a week and the hours are flexible. Other than on-campus... I haven't heard any stories from folks who have had a hard time finding work.

[artmessiah]

I'll have to cosign what Cat said. It's really hard to work in the CA program. It can be done, cause I'm doing it, but I it's hard. I need the money so I don't know another way. If given the choice I would not work though, it is waaay to difficult.

[thesinfulsaint]

They definitely need to update their admission policies for home schoolers, though. There was no way I was going to take the GED after I had legitimately done high school course work plus two years of college!
That's really strange--one of my best friends here at Ringling was homeschooled. Ah well. I'm glad it was sorted out anyway. :)

[CheesecakeBree]

Awww man, I don't feel like typing an essay....ugh.
Anyway, I have a question about jobs in the area, are they easy to find? Also, how many Ringling students have jobs? Are they a must? Do you have time for them?

I'm probably going to try to find a job too while I'm there. When I visited the school a couple months ago, I saw a lot of student workers around and I was given the impression that it wasn't hard to get a job on campus. (Probably because a lot of students are too busy to have one, like everyone else has been saying. :P ) I noticed a couple places in the Sarasota area that were hiring too, so if you're not picky, it doesn't seem like it would be hard to find work.

That's really strange--one of my best friends here at Ringling was homeschooled. Ah well. I'm glad it was sorted out anyway. :)

I hope they had an easier time applying! Some homeschoolers go through other schools or organizations to be sure they have a state-recognized diploma, but I didn't do anything like that. A lot of colleges now don't require "accredited" high school diplomas, especially if you have another degree... so I was surprised when at first they told me I still needed one. But yes, I'm glad it was sorted out too, I was really stressed out over it. I didn't want to start off my Ringling experience on a sour note.

[copperfire]

Thanks everyone, whew, I hate working........unless it's art :)

[CheesecakeBree]

I'm full of questions... here's a few more I thought up:

9) Do they allow small pets in on-campus living? :meow:

10) What type of stuff did you bring when you moved to the school? Any regrets over stuff you did/didn't bring along?

11) For those who are already working on or submitted your portfolios, how current is your work? The website says to submit "recent" pieces, so I was planning to put a mix of some things from previous classes (2003-2006) along with brand new work. I was wondering how current everyone else's portfolio choices were.

[Magami]

Wow, Cheesecake's asking all the questioned I mentally pondered doing so myself...good good. I'm quite interested in knowing, myself.

[thesinfulsaint]

9.) No pets are allowed except for fish, and even then, I don't know if I would bring one. My friends who live next door have a Beta fish, and it's more of a hassle to clean it than it's worth.

10.) I guess the thing that I most regret bringing is my bike. I moved mine down to the bottom of the stairwell in the Student Center because it was just taking up space beneath my bed. I haven't even used it once. That's probably a personal thing, though; I prefer to wait until all of my friends need to go shopping, and then we all walk to Winn-Dixie or Walgreens together. Also, I didn't bring enough clothing for "cooler" weather. Being from Ohio, I assumed that I would always think that 70 degree weather was really really warm. :)

10.) All of the work I submitted in my portfolio was created within the last year. I wouldn't really recommend going much farther back than that unless the work is really good. Personally, I can't stand to even look at work that's much older than a year. If you are still proud of work that's older than that, there's probably something wrong.

[Kevinstarlight]

Phew... I been reading this forum and for quit sometime and I mean from start to finished well, except about the ghost story.

I would like to thank everyone who left there input about Ringling. I think my brain is loaded with information now or should I say burn out..*~. lol. Oh, I am sorry, I haven't introduce myself, my name is Kevin or people prefer to call me for short Kev*~.

I am a Computer Graphic Designer and currently student at Northern Virginia Community College. I've been taking classes from basic drawing, design, Computer Graphic for 2years. I think I have at least learned something out of it ... I guess….
I would like to learn more in the world of ART and Design including 3d Animation, so I've been secretly... well not secretly, I think the word I am looking for is researching about the school I want to attend in the future.
Forgive me I am not really good in writing English, since it’s not my first language.
Anyhow, I just keep my sentence clear and simple.


Last year 2006 I’ve been looking for the best 3d Animation school across the United States. My list was like SCAD, Ringling, FullSail, Cal ART, Academic of Art and University and DIGIPEN. I have spent countless time reading there fancy Catalog here and there and searched for any possible information through the web. At the end, I was able to knock down my long list from 6 to 2 = SCRAD and Ringling so .... .. I decided the best solution would be taking a personal trip down there and see for it myself. First stop was Ringling than SCARD in Atlanta Georgia.



It was a long drive *~ 18hr drive to be precise (First time ever done it of course with support from my lovely MOM and little SIS)
It was a long and tired journey from North to South and I think it was worth it. We arrive at night in Sarasota and spent one night in a Motel which was pretty cheap and close to Ringling. The next day I had an appointment for a college tour at 9am and I pretty much got nervous on the first day...didn't get that much info about the school nor see anyone around the campus on that day… sad…

Overall, I have been really pleased from what I've seem, small campus + good student work + sunny weather + beach = ^_^*~ I could ask more.
To confirm everything what other people have told me about this school I’ve meet this great guy online a former Alumni Student who design this outstanding Animation I believe his name is Nara Y. He is working at DreamWorks right now and I believe you guys have seen his work in Ringling’s catalog

I email him and ask about Ringling and he pretty much replied and said the same what you guys have posted here. I nice little school with great potential "it all depend what you make out of it" I recall when he said that to me.
I am a guy who doesn’t believe in rumors, so I have to make sure all information on the web as well as people who told me about this school are true and accrued. It’s not like everyday you loan so much money and invest in one pile.
I believe deep inside my heart I've found the right place for me from what I’ve heard and personally seen with my own eye, that’s why I bump into this great forum at ConceptART….. Lucky me!



Anyway, I have already sent off my stuff to Ringling + Admission Form which was $40bugs ...wow!... thought it was $35 on 07 catalog...Now I am pretty much sitting in the same boat like the fellow freshmen people back from this year 07..... Nervous, excided, and if you really want to know I am preying everyday that I get accepted LOL*~
Now I guess I can finally relax and close my research book.

Oh, and I also have some question here.

-Does anyone know when do we have to start applying for student loan after Jan15 or before? It already drives me nuts searching for the right lender. I’ve never done it before ……ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh*~sucks!

-About the “Core classes” including The English Writing class, is it difficult in terms of writing essay including grammar part, reason why I am asking is I am not the strongest guy in writing English nor Math, it’s kind like my greatest nightmare of all times for me when thinking about it uhuuuuuuuu…..evil!, evil!

Anyhow, I am pretty sure other new income people for next year 08 will find it pretty helpful and motivating reading through this forum as I did.


Cheers to all of you,

Kev*~

[thesinfulsaint]

Hi Kevinstarlight!

-Does anyone know when do we have to start applying for student loan after Jan15 or before? It already drives me nuts searching for the right lender. I’ve never done it before ……ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh*~sucks!
Wait until after January 15th to start applying for loans. In fact, wait until late March when Ringling starts handing out scholarship money. You won't know how much money you will need to take out in loans until after that.

-About the “Core classes” including The English Writing class, is it difficult in terms of writing essay including grammar part, reason why I am asking is I am not the strongest guy in writing English nor Math, it’s kind like my greatest nightmare of all times for me when thinking about it uhuuuuuuuu…..evil!, evil!
I'm in a different writing class than most freshmen because I had some transfer credits, but even then, I don't think mine is that hard. My room mate is in the standard writing class, and the majority of her grade is based on in-class writings. Those don't have to be perfect. I think they also give a little bit of slack to English as a second language students. As far as math credits... I don't even have one required for my major (CA). I can't speak for the other majors, though.

[CheesecakeBree]

10.) All of the work I submitted in my portfolio was created within the last year. I wouldn't really recommend going much farther back than that unless the work is really good. Personally, I can't stand to even look at work that's much older than a year. If you are still proud of work that's older than that, there's probably something wrong.

An admissions counselor told me to included examples from my pottery courses since that could be substituted for the 3D course. I took those back in 2003-04 and since I don't have a kiln in my backyard, I don't have any recent examples that would work for 3D substitution. She saw the dates I took the classes and didn't mention it would be a problem. I was wondering about other types of work, however, so thanks for your input! The few other things I might consider from previous classes are more recent than the pottery. But you're right, I can't stand most of my old work either, and I'll probably end up including what's most recent.

[CheesecakeBree]

Oh, and welcome Kev! Hope to see you in '08!

[CherryLunar]

Let me pop back in for a second and say that a lot of the questions that have been answered already have been helpful. Also, was just wondering if notebooks were still going to be a little perk for being accepted or if it was just for last year's students. To tell you the truth, I'm really not looking forward to buying a desktop replacement at the moment. :S

Also: How's everyone's portfolio coming along? I'm assuming most, if not all, are already done and just doing some refinements? :^^;:

[Jodo]

Let me pop back in for a second and say that a lot of the questions that have been answered already have been helpful. Also, was just wondering if notebooks were still going to be a little perk for being accepted or if it was just for last year's students. To tell you the truth, I'm really not looking forward to buying a desktop replacement at the moment. :S

Also: How's everyone's portfolio coming along? I'm assuming most, if not all, are already done and just doing some refinements? :^^;:

I think 2008 students get notebooks too. But it's just speculation.

Yea..uhh. I only have 3 pieces in my portfolio so far. I really need to get off my ass...

[CherryLunar]

You're not the only one Jodo. I have about half of what I need so far though I may be nearly finished by time the end of the semester rolls around. (Dec 13th-ish)

And I'm really hoping the 2008 students get those snazzy notebooks also.

[Kevinstarlight]

Hi thesinfulsaint !

Thanks for the information that's the answer I've been looking for. Thank God, there won't be any Math involve for the Animation program.

I've look some of people’s 07 art portfolios and I am really impressed with the work! especially, drawing glasses and plastic bottles they are the hardest ones to draw. I guess, I better do some more practice until I get the shading right.




CheesecakeBree.

Thank you for having me here and I hope you'll make to Ringling as well!
About your previews questions, I think you should include some your best art work from past to present. I for example, took some art work form 05 and 07 and mix them together, but somehow I would like to spend more time to create something outstanding to WOA them! I am a full time student and have a full time job right now, so unfortunately I don't have the time to execute them before Jan 15th 2008
Again, if you have the time I personal would spend the last 2 month on the drawing board, but that's just me.


Here is my Portfolio I've submitted to Ringling

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=5852&id=603954113


Oh! One more thing, I've got this email sent by Admission Office. Next week Friday Nov. 17th there will be a meeting held at Central Cartoon Network. I would like to go, but unfortunately I am in VA right now, so it's impossible for me to attend. If any one lives close to Atlanta Georgia this is the best opportunity to ask question or do research on there own.

Good Luck!

Kev*~




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[Meloncov]

The link to your portfolio isn't working.

[David Kassan]

I'm full of questions... here's a few more I thought up:

10) What type of stuff did you bring when you moved to the school? Any regrets over stuff you did/didn't bring along?


leave the gun take the cannoli

[copperfire]

CherryLunar, how did you manage to upload an animated icon? XO I tried to upload mine, but I can never manage to get past detection :}

[thesinfulsaint]

I'm pretty sure you guys all get notebooks as well. It sounds as though it's a continuing program. Whoever the anonymous donor was, he or she was certainly very generous. :)

[artmessiah]

Just to cosign what Saint said - yes you guys and gals will get notebooks. To all working hard on you portfolios good luck to you. You'll love Ringling. Ringlings second year course pace and expectation of learning takes some getting used to, but it is an awesome curriculum and College. Now that I've started to get a clue about using Maya I've had a smile on my face for about two weeks now - plus the weather has been awesome, (not too hot, not too cold). I'm really happy to be here. :D

[Jtho]

Hey guys, I want to thank all the Ringling students in this thread being on the ball and providing such a wealth of information.

I'm 19 and currently taking a year off school after spending a year at a State University, and I got around 40 gen ed. credits that I hope will be somewhat transferable. (Statistics, German, Biology, Sociology, Poly Sci, English, blah blah, and a Drawing I class)


I don't know if I consider myself a Ringling HOPEFUL, but it is certainly one of the schools that I wish I could go to for Illustration next fall. $130,000 might just be too much though.

I read a few posts about a (presidential?) scholarship awarded to only one new student in each major. I don't know if that's something I can exactly aim for, so are there many other merit-based scholarships/grants available from the school? Or If I decide to take on that much debt am I going to be groveling for the Pizza Hut and Norwegian heritage nickel-and-dime scholarships?

A lot of you guys said that you've been to National Portfolio Day events and it sounds like it was worthwhile and helpful. I'm planning on going to the NPD hosted by MCAD this Sunday and I'm actually very nervous about the whole thing. I want to ultimately have 15 solid pieces in my portfolio, but right now I only have about 5 really solid pieces and 3 or 4 semi-finished or 'I'm not sure if I should even have this in a portfolio' pieces. Do most schools expect you to have a fully finished portfolio to show them or is it okay to have a half-done portfolio? Did many school reps have laptops with them in case I just want to put my stuff on a flash drive? (much easier than printing off scans) What's the general flow of a single review like? I have this horrible habit of imagining only the worst possible way stuff like this can go, to the point where my fears are completely unreasonable but they affect me as If they were real.

At any rate I definitely plan on hitting up the Ringling representative there.

I know a lot of art schools have very specialized first year curriculum to set up a foundation for students. If I applied to Ringling, In the unlikely case my transfer credits allow me to start as a sophomore, what kind of classes would I be missing? Would I get totally overwhelmed by the sudden onslaught of work if I'm not used to being an art student?

Random final question--there is absolutely no chance I'd be able to bring a car out to Sarasota. How friendly is the Ringling campus/Sarasota living for pedestrians?

Thanks for any feedback.

[CherryLunar]

CherryLunar, how did you manage to upload an animated icon? XO I tried to upload mine, but I can never manage to get past detection :}

I uploaded this avatar a little over two years ago. I guess things have changed since then.

[CheesecakeBree]

... I know a lot of art schools have very specialized first year curriculum to set up a foundation for students. If I applied to Ringling, In the unlikely case my transfer credits allow me to start as a sophomore, what kind of classes would I be missing? Would I get totally overwhelmed by the sudden onslaught of work if I'm not used to being an art student?

Random final question--there is absolutely no chance I'd be able to bring a car out to Sarasota. How friendly is the Ringling campus/Sarasota living for pedestrians? ...

Thanks for any feedback.

I was worried about the same thing too, but from the impression everyone has given me here (along with what an admissions counselor told me), I would be entering at a freshmen even though I have a 2-year gen ed. degree already. The liberal art courses are scattered throughout the four years so getting them out of the way will just free up time during each semester and not necessarily shorten your time. I'm at peace with it now though, and I'm kind of happy I probably won't be a sophomore since I want to start off with the right foundation and not miss anything like you said.

As for pedestrian friendly, yes it is. When I visited the school it looked like everything on the campus itself was within walking/biking distance. Sarasota isn't that big of a town either, so I don't think it would be that hard to get around without a car. (Just don't go walking alone in the bad parts of town!) There's also lots of one-way streets and everything seemed narrower and smushed together too (especially on the islands) so getting around even in my small car was kind of nerve-wracking... not using a car might be a good thing.


I'm pretty sure you guys all get notebooks as well. It sounds as though it's a continuing program. Whoever the anonymous donor was, he or she was certainly very generous. :)

What're these notebooks everyone keeps mentioning? Is it for the CA department students only?

... Thank you for having me here and I hope you'll make to Ringling as well!
About your previews questions, I think you should include some your best art work from past to present. I for example, took some art work form 05 and 07 and mix them together, but somehow I would like to spend more time to create something outstanding to WOA them! I am a full time student and have a full time job right now, so unfortunately I don't have the time to execute them before Jan 15th 2008
Again, if you have the time I personal would spend the last 2 month on the drawing board, but that's just me. ...


Thanks for the advice, it's good to know what other '08 hopefuls are doing. :wink:

[zeitgeist]

hey guys... I have a questions that may or may not have been answered already. I didn't see it... so if it's here sorry for the duplicate.

does ringling's campus housing have any options for students that are married? I'd love to live on campus for all the obvious reasons... but if nothing is offered.. then i wouldn't be able to... for obvious reasons.

[nilaffle]

CheesecakeBree, thanks for taking a look at my blog, makes me happy. :D Oi, I've missed so much, been a busy few weeks.

The notebook is a MacBook Pro that for the past two years has been given to first-year students - not just CA, it's for everyone.

Jtho, haha Ringling's financial awards are pretty slim... your best bet is to look for outside aid.

I went to NPD at Maryland Institute College of Art about two years ago and I don't remember many (if any) reps having laptops. I would highly suggest bringing your original work for that sort of review. You don't want your reviews to be dependent on technology - even if they have it, there's always the chance of a malfunction. It's not necessary to have a completed portfolio - my first time at NPD I only had a few pieces, three or five. They'll review based on what you have and give you suggestions as to how to improve your portfolio for the official submission.

Generally the review process is pretty informal... they'll look through your pieces, tell you what they like and what you should work on. It's not a final submission, so you don't have to worry about being rejected. :) Just take it as an informational session. Don't be afraid to ask questions and listen to their advice.

There is potential for you to get overwhelmed here if you're moved to sophomore status. I know a few who entered as sophomores but asked to be dropped back to freshman status because the load was too much. The rest of us are certainly being pushed to our limits, but it's manageable, and it's fun! You'll have plenty of friends around you in the same boat, and you'll all support and help each other along. Just be ready to work.

Necessities are nearby - coffee shop across the street, grocery store down the road. Anything farther than that and you can bum a ride from someone - plenty of students have cars and are happy to bus friends around.

zeitgeist, there's a unit on campus called Family Housing - apartments with two bedrooms and a full kitchen. That's where I am. I think it's for families (hence the name), but right now I think all of the residents are single. Still, tell Ringling your situation and I'm sure they'll work with you.

[CheesecakeBree]

CheesecakeBree, thanks for taking a look at my blog, makes me happy. :D Oi, I've missed so much, been a busy few weeks.

The notebook is a MacBook Pro that for the past two years has been given to first-year students - not just CA, it's for everyone.

My jaw dropped!! Wow. :D I was planning to buy a MacBook for myself before next year so I could have something portable to take with me, but I'm definitely not going to buy one now if I'll get one from the school. (Then I can put the money towards tuition instead.) Is there anybody I can contact to find out for sure that they'll still be doing this for '08? And does it apply for freshmen like me who will be transfer students?

[nilaffle]

Contact admissions for the official word. :) And it should apply for transfers. It did this year - there was some confusion, but ultimately we got them.

[Meloncov]

Is there anybody I can contact to find out for sure that they'll still be doing this for '08? And does it apply for freshmen like me who will be transfer students?

My understanding was that enough were given so that the entire student body could have one, and as they are returned at the end of senior year, the program should go on until the computers are obsolete.


Does anyone know if Ringling accepts AP credits for liberal arts classes they don't offer? I'll have a small pile of math and science AP that I hope will transfer through.

[thesinfulsaint]

Does anyone know if Ringling accepts AP credits for liberal arts classes they don't offer? I'll have a small pile of math and science AP that I hope will transfer through.
I'm pretty sure that those should transfer. I even had an AP Government credit transfer, and I don't think there is a comparable course offered here. You need to earn at least a 4 for all English and Art AP credits for them to transfer, but they will accept 3's for all other courses.

[CheesecakeBree]

My understanding was that enough were given so that the entire student body could have one, and as they are returned at the end of senior year, the program should go on until the computers are obsolete. ...

Oh, so it's not one you get to keep?

[Crimm]

ello again! (i keep popping in and out every once in a while, lol, forgive me) I've been turning real serious on the whole applying thing, but I wanna get good feedback from Ringling before turning in my portfolio and applying. I saw them at the national portfolio day in San Diego. I didn't have much to show, so I didn't get any real constructive advice.

I had just presented the idea to my parents of flying to Florida, visiting the school, and showing my portfolio for review. Ofcourse, they all about the finances for such a trip. Which may mean that if we do go, I won't get another car. *shame* My car died last week, so yea..

Would you guys happen to know when, during December-January, would be a good time to visit Ringling? Or any suggestions of getting my portfolio reviewed by them that wouldn't be costly. lol.

Time for hair ripping... rawr! <--- *stressing*

[artmessiah]

Oh, so it's not one you get to keep?

No, but by the time you graduate you'll be looking for an upgrade to buy anyway. They are pretty handy to have while in school tho.

[thesinfulsaint]

Would you guys happen to know when, during December-January, would be a good time to visit Ringling? Or any suggestions of getting my portfolio reviewed by them that wouldn't be costly. lol.
Well, our semester ends December 12th, so you're going to want to come before then if you come in December. You also should probably come before the CA deadline (that's what you're applying for, if I remember right...), which is probably sometime in early/mid January. I don't think we get back from Christmas break until January 8th or 9th...

So, in other words, come SOON! ASAP! That is, if you really want to come here to have your portfolio reviewed. I don't know if there is a way for you to have your portfolio reviewed by Ringling beforehand, but I do know that I and others on CA.org would be happy to give you some constructive criticism if you post your portfolio. :) You would probably receive similar feedback to what you would from the Ringling admissions office.

[CheesecakeBree]

... I had just presented the idea to my parents of flying to Florida, visiting the school, and showing my portfolio for review. Ofcourse, they all about the finances for such a trip. Which may mean that if we do go, I won't get another car. *shame* My car died last week, so yea..

Would you guys happen to know when, during December-January, would be a good time to visit Ringling? Or any suggestions of getting my portfolio reviewed by them that wouldn't be costly. lol.

Time for hair ripping... rawr! <--- *stressing*

When I visited the school with my mom a couple months ago, neither of us felt like the trip was that beneficial. I mean, yeah, it was nice to get a feel for the place and solidify in my mind that it was really the school I wanted to go to. But as for finding out more info, the tour was super-short (we didn't go with a group) and we didn't see very much... at least not anything more than you can find online. The advisor was very nice and great at answering all our questions, but at the same time, it wasn't anything that I couldn't have asked her via e-mail either (and in fact I've had to work out some things that way too). We spent probably only an hour or so actually at the school while the rest of our less-than-two-day trip was spent elsewhere. :^^;:

In retrospect, I wish we would have been a little more assertive and asked to see more areas of the school. I live on the east coast of Florida so it wasn't a bad drive for us, though. If you have to spend a lot of money and resources to visit, however, then I would seriously think about whether it's going to be worth it or not. Try and see if you can get your questions answered online first by e-mailing an advisor or looking up info on other websites (and like thesinfulsaint said, everyone here is willing to give constructive criticism!). If you still think you'd benefit from a visit, find cheap airline rates and maybe someone who could host you for a night or two.

[Meloncov]

ng December-January, would be a good time to visit Ringling? Or any suggestions of getting my portfolio reviewed by them that wouldn't be costly. lol.

Have you checked if there is a National Portfolio Review Day near you than Ringling is attending?

[Crimm]

yep. And the next time is gonna be when its already too late to turn in application. : (

[Meloncov]

yep. And the next time is gonna be when its already too late to turn in application. : (

Are there any in relatively nearby cities that are early enough?

[nilaffle]

This time of year NPD is usually on the east coast, and Crimm you're on the west, right?

With the submission deadline being January 15, it's cutting it really close to get useful feedback. Getting a review in December probably wouldn't give you enough time to make noticeable changes to your portfolio, if they were to suggest it. That's a lot of money to spend just for a review. I don't know if you can contact admissions and ask to e-mail a few pieces to be reviewed. It's worth a shot. Otherwise, you're better off setting up a sketchbook here, like sinfulsaint said.

[Crimm]

This time of year NPD is usually on the east coast, and Crimm you're on the west, right?

With the submission deadline being January 15, it's cutting it really close to get useful feedback. Getting a review in December probably wouldn't give you enough time to make noticeable changes to your portfolio, if they were to suggest it. That's a lot of money to spend just for a review. I don't know if you can contact admissions and ask to e-mail a few pieces to be reviewed. It's worth a shot. Otherwise, you're better off setting up a sketchbook here, like sinfulsaint said.

Yea...now that you've mentioned it, I believe thats a better choice. As much as I wanna do something int he name of education (lol), thats alot of money to be spending. X3 Thanks for that suggestion!

[Amaranthine]

Just wanted to say I got a 3 on one AP English and a 4 on the other and both credits have transferred. It's just the AP Art that requires a 4 or 5. Wanted to clarify.

And Sarasota is bigger than it seems. The essentials are nearby, yes. But there is a bus system and of course friends are a plus. I know that my boyfriend is fed up of getting rides and is bringing his car next year. So you do what you can. Then again, with the amount of incoming freshman rising, I'm not even sure how they're going to fit anymore cars lol, we've run out of room almost as it is.

[copperfire]

[QUOTE=Amaranthine;1522823]Just wanted to say I got a 3 on one AP English and a 4 on the other and both credits have transferred. It's just the AP Art that requires a 4 or 5. Wanted to clarify.

Good God that's awesome! Thanks for clarifying that! Looks like I don't have anything to worry about since I got a 3 on the one AP English I took and a 5 on my AP portfolio :D

Also, I was thinking of bringing my car, but so far it sounds like a bad idea?

[artmessiah]

Also, I was thinking of bringing my car, but so far it sounds like a bad idea?

Bring your car, it's not a bad idea. It will come in handy and you'll be pretty popular with friends without a car for the ability of getting to explore off campus.

[Jtho]

Well I just got back from NPD and it was a mixed bag. I got a very positive review from Ringling and CCAD (my work in progress portfolio was accepted at both), but by the time I got to SVA there was only 10 minutes left so the guy rushed through my stuff.

The people watching was pretty good (my god there are sooo many weeaboos who want to be artists) but I don't know if the whole thing was worth 4 hours to only hit up barely 3 schools.

[CheesecakeBree]

I'll be bringing my car too, so you all won't be alone. And for those that don't, I'll gladly give rides! I didn't have my own car (or my license) for most of my time at community college. I was always bumming rides from friends or family. Those days are over... I never want to go without a car again. But I know how tough it is, so now that I have a car I'm happy to help out other people. :teeth: It's only a 3-4 hour drive from home to Sarasota, so it'll also come in handy when I need to drive back home during breaks.