Star Wars dump (BIG)

[tegehel]

Hi all,

This are some SW pieces I've been asked to make or rework. I would like your feedback before submitting them to the guys with the "Pawah!"

ANY COMMENTS ARE WELCOME, please, now is the time, because after the submission, well...won't matter anymore :)

Many thanks in advance.

C.

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This first one's a rework, where I replace the head with Mara Jade's (the previous version had a Vador-like gas-mask head.)
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/Yodalisque3_v2.jpg
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This is a rework too, made less sexual, without Yoda. Now it's more of a Rebel Alliance promo poster.
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/yodalisque_lucas.jpg
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This is a joke, but they asked me to make her head look more recognizable anyway. And Yoda's here now (old pervert, he is)
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/Yodalisque2_lucas.jpg
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The 5 below are "famous" characters, using a hard edge color method.
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/shaak_ti.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/kit_fisto.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/plokoon.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/yoda.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/darth_maul.jpg
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The 3 below are soft edged.
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/aayla_secura.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/aurra_sing.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/padme_amidala.jpg
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Below are 2 constructivist SW posters. I would like the help of someone who knows Latin rather well to tell me if, in the first one, the grammatical use of "tyrannus regnum" and "triumvirat obscurum" is correct. I'm not positive at all about the conjugation. Thanks.
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/The_Empire.jpg
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/clonetrooper_an_army_of_one.jpg
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and finally, a truism :)
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http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/jedi_younglings.jpg

[mikadoguff]

Some funny stuff going on in the pieces with backgrounds (Chewbacca has a posse) Anatomy is slipping a bit with Darth Maul and Aura sing. Light sabres are a bit short in the painted pieces. And the Princess Leia looks a bit too much like David Bowie to me.

[PencilPunx]

This is a very impressive thread. The first couple painted pieces in particular turned out really well. Thank god you got to keep Yoda because that is hillarious. I'd have to concur about Aura Sing though. Her pose is much weaker and awkward than the others you have. Fix that and you are money.

[Rellik]

Some of those pieces are better than others. I really like the one of Aayla, that looks just like whoever played her in the movie. Way to go.

But yeah, Leia looks too much like David Bowie.

[rimwalker]

I could never resist a Jedi. *snicker*

Ah, those are all great. I'm glad you collected the bunch into a single thread. It was fun watching your process.

A couple of questions:
1) What was your basis in choosing the poses in the individual Jedi portraits? (I love the poses so I was wondering.)
And... oh, actually that was my only question. *feels silly*

[McNallyism]

uh...who are you doing these for?

[Muttonhead]

Tegehel-

I think the first piece is amazingly good, and the second one is very very strong, but I too am a bit worried about the Leia piece. Her body seems too wide and flat and the head is just a slight bit off as well. Don't get me wrong, I would do no better with a piece like this one, doing painted portraits of real people so that they look just like they do in real life is VERY difficult.

It looks like you may have fought and struggled with this piece too much. Again, I know this sucks coming from a stranger, but I honestly think that if you are planning on showing this to Star Wars art directors in the hopes of getting some Star Wars assignments, I would either re-do this piece or leave it out entirely. BUT, keep in mind that this is merely my opinion, you can take it for what it is worth.

I just think sometimes it is hard to be objective about your own work, but if I were an art director looking at this piece, I may be less inclined to give you an assignment that involved a human character from the movie.

I say: don't be afraid to more closely trace/use photo reference for pieces involving recognizable actors. I guarantee you that all those guys that do Star Wars book covers trace photo reference onto their drawing board.

However, if I had to determine whether or not to give you work based solely on that first piece: I would say yes!

I also really like your other character pieces. Very nice style, and Padme looks almost exactly like Padme in that one.

Awesome design work as well! This is a skill I am sorely lacking in....

Good luck! You'll do great I am sure!


-Muttonhead

[egerie]

ah wow that first piece without the helmet has so much more impact now !!!
I like the lower left graffiti in the second one. Altho I'm not sure the poster "This is the Enemy" works. Maybe just putting "ENEMY" that's partly cut-off like Vador's mask would be a bit more subtle.
Shaak ti and Plo koon are my favorites. Oh and that first propaganda poster is neat !

[foster]

hey cyril, you did a fantastic job on these. but the pieces i like the most are the hard edge character pieces and the posters. i think you will be getting work soon!

jon

[gallon]

the first one are great (and they got that phallos thing, mm ;)). I'm don't think the ones with the inked outlines is in the same league (not as good as the other stuff.)
The last two are great as well, even though I think you could change the text in the vader/maul/emperor-piece, maybe something latin all the way (mm I just saw you wrote about that one, why not quote Julius Ceasar or some old general (in vino veritas ;)).
Don't get the last one (is it anakin and that boba fett kid?? The new star wars movies have not caught my interest at all so I guess I'm a bit uninformed.....
Nice work overall....as always.

Edit* Take some more time and sharpen the fur on the ewok in the Leia-piece. It looks a bit too blurry right now and it breaks the style of the pic

[Loga4]

Cool pieces,Tegehel!

[PencilPunx]

Originally posted by gallon
the first one are great (and they got that phallos thing, mm ;)). I'm don't think the ones with the inked outlines is in the same league (not as good as the other stuff.)


No offense gallon, but I disagree. I think the strength of the inked outlined pieces is that they would work really well for advertising, which is what I would guess they are for. The images are simple enough that they could be removed from their white backrounds and placed on mugs, action figures, paper plates and all the other various merchandise that floods the market every time a new Star Wars film is released. Their simplicity in that scenario is an advantage.:D

[alti]

very impressive, your colours are nicely shaded and *thud*


*passes out from coolness of thread*

[Jimmy Scifi]

I really dig the second one. It has a nice balance between a painting and a graphic srt of poster. The rest are fantastic too, but some are a little out. I'm sure you know what I mean. Good stuff man, keep it up.

[prismacolor]

Quality work...as always!

I'd agree with Mikadoguff & PencilPunx
Dunno why, but the Yoda pose looks kinda awkward too - the forshortening/position of the right arm popping out of his head is what bothers me I think...
On Padme, the black lines interior...on the clothing are looking like a different "style" than the face and midriff...um... have you tried one without the interior linework, or soften it to a midtone gray against the white, leaving the black line for overall sillouette outline?

I really like the changes you indicate you've made to the others and the hard color style really works well; especially on the ones like Kit... reminds me a just a little bit of...
Martin French's work...yeah that's it....
Martin French (http://www.morgangaynin.com/index.html)

One question - why Latin instead of SW Universe languages?
There are some good SW fonts out there on the net...
SciFi Fonts (http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/4965/sffont.html)

Thanks for posting! Hope my crits were constructive!:chug:

[darkcult]

Brilliant work tegehel!
:chug:

[softdrawer]

somes are pretty cool !

keep it up

[gallon]

pencilpunx- Well, I guess that just shows the strenghts of tegehels artwork, when it works on different arenas and different purposes :) (and is appreciated by different tastes as well :))

[tegehel]

To all of you who posted, many thanks indeed, for your praises, comments and for criticisms. And for your wishes too, I appreciate them very much.

Allow me to answer some of the questions randomly.

Now that there's a consensus on Leia-Bowie, I will just go hide in the cellar for a while and cry. Heh, but seriously, I must have missed that one. I did indeed struggle quite a bit on that piece, and technically, the struggle's not over, but there's a time where I just have to put it aside and decide whether or not to include it. I could work on it forever, but as you all know: not possible.

As for Aurra Sing, I will rework her before submitting, thank you for the heads-up.

Yoda's pose is ackward indeed because it's "unnatural" perhaps. It is a Shaolin exercise pose, actually part of a series of them. Not a fighting stance per se, but flowing-with-nature exercise (a rough nature in this case, maybe).

Thank you prismacolor for suggesting the SW lettering. I didn't think of that (figures!) but I will experiment. Martin French rocks! I really like. Reminds me a little bit of an other artists who posts here occasionally, who calls himself Beet. I met him at ComicCon, very talented guy.

The last piece are no particular characters, but rather a general philosophical "truism" that dictates that our destiny is predefined (some will follow the dark path, other the light one) as opposed to those who think that we create our own destiny. This piece doesn't answer the dilemma but points out the obvious.

The lightsabers: yes, agreed. I just decided (artist's prerogative) that they need new batteries, so they're running a bit low right now...

The poses are chosen based on what I remember about the characters (based on the 5 movies so far). Yoda and Amidala, although had very memorable actions scenes, are usually mellower characters, so I decided that their poses would reflect that. As for the others, I thought the Jedis would be cool in saber-wielding exercises (not necessarily attack stances) and I tried to keep the most aggressive poses for Maul and Sing, who are respectively very evil and an ex-jedi bounty hunter.

Aayla was a hommage to foster's painting. Although not a copy, the pose is very roughly similar. Did you know that his painting found here (http://www.starwars.com/eu/feature/20010830/index_13.html) was a big reason they decided to include here in the new Episodes? I read that on starwars.com but can't find the link anymore. Anyways, foster's the man, and when I grow up, I want to be a foster too. (:confused: )

C.

PS: again, many thanks for all your responses and feedback.

[Blackwell]

Awesome! I love your stuff, Teg - especially your lighting. Great stuff.

[heiesuke]

terrific stuff dude keep it up.

[Hardcore]

Good stuff man !! :D

[tegehel]

with SW characters:

http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/The_Empire2.jpg

More ink, more depth, a few anatomical and pose fixes.

http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/aurra_sing2.jpg

The new one:

http://www.tegehel.org/graphics/newfolio/colors/absolut_power1.jpg

[fish~]

sweet pics.. aura leg looks broken to me though.. the hip angle dosn't line up with the (right) knee direction.
it almost appears like shes standing horizontially

i love the blue chars pose..and i think the light sabers are a fine length, had they been longer they would have drawn the attention rather then the figures..shorter seems to make the char seem "in controll" especially with the little kids

[admiral_ju00]

that first pic is an Amazing piece of work

i actually love what you've done with all of them, except that cyclops lady. something about her posture just doesn't seem natural.

[tegehel]

Thank you all for your comments. Fish, yeah, I can see that now...thanks.

admiral_ju00, I assume that cyclop lady you are referring to is the last one in red. It's actually a Imperial Guard, and the reason he's so stiff, it's because I'm mimicking one of those Absolut Vodka Ad campaign. See the following link for more explanations:

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10554

C.

[LC3]

Those are freakin amazing. So cool to see Aayla in there... she should have had more screen time!

[McNallyism]

Maybe you already ansered this, but who or what are you doing these for?

[tegehel]

LC3: yeah, I hope they're gonna show her more in the next movie (she didn't die in Ep.2, did she?)

McNallyism: I don't think I've answered directly. I'm doing it because a couple of art directors I met at the San Diego ComicCon asked me to fix some of my portfolio pieces, create some more and send the result. Both art directors work on Star Wars related stuff.

What you see here is the work that I've sent.

These pieces will (probably) not be used or published. They were mainly created to show what I can do, my style, and they also wanted to know how "close" I could get to the characters.

And they make cool portfolio pieces :)

C.

[3bleadpencil]

I'm surprised no one has thought of that "absolut Power" idea...really good
3B

[admiral_ju00]

no, i was actually refering to Bounty Hunter named Aurra Sing (sorry, i was trying to add some humor here :D ) . not the Imperial guard, he's actually very well done.

[tegehel]

Oh I see. The cyclops reference threw me off...:)

C.

[LC3]

Originally posted by tegehel
LC3: yeah, I hope they're gonna show her more in the next movie (she didn't die in Ep.2, did she?)

She made it out of the arena and the last you see of her she's running into the final battle. I doubt anyone would shoot someone so hot, so I assume she lived. :p

Good luck with the portfolio! Hope you get some work!!!!

[admiral_ju00]

even thou i've been a SW for many a year, and i've watched episode 2, about 15 or so times, i have completely failed to see her in the movie.
i saw here everywhere else thou, like the lucas sites, etc.
i'll have to go back and re-watch the movie once or twice :D

[Carnifex]

i nearly fell off my chair when seeing the third pic,it's just hilarious!the others are very good too,but i favour the first three.btw,yoda should be in the second pic,that makes it better.the third one looks a little bit overload when he's in there too.however the expression on leia's face is superb.i really dig all of your work,can't wait to see more.YOU RULE!:D:D

[tegehel]

Carniflex: yes, he originally was in the yellow one, but got removed for the final and I put it in Leia, because I didn't want to lose him, he was so cute ;)

http://www.tegehel.org/art/pfolio1/paint16b.htm

Same for Leia

http://www.tegehel.org/art/pfolio1/paint18b.htm

C.