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Kat12
July 19th, 2007, 03:24 AM
I just read a new short article on paint-sculpt.com (http://www.paint-sculpt.com/index.php) about how there are mistakes in art and sometimes mistakes guide our artistic choices.
I thought that this might be an interesting artistic discussion to bring here.
I tend to think that the kind of people who say that there no mistakes in art are usually non-artists. (link to article) (http://www.paint-sculpt.com/articles/there-are-no-mistakes-in-art.html)
Any thoughts?

killer_gym_sox
July 19th, 2007, 03:56 AM
yes you can make mistakes. To make a mistake and hide behind the excuse that you cannot make mistakes in your art is how you will end up only hurting yourself in my opinion. Mistakes are useful as long as the person understands that they have made one and how to correct it/them. You cant purposely make a mistake... thats an oxy moron lol

Kat12
July 19th, 2007, 04:07 AM
yes you can make mistakes. To make a mistake and hide behind the excuse that you cannot make mistakes in your art is how you will end up only hurting yourself in my opinion. Mistakes are useful as long as the person understands that they have made one and how to correct it/them. You cant purposely make a mistake... thats an oxy moron lol

I think you both agree with that article and mis-understood it in seperate places
I don't think that they were talking about purposely making mistakes
sometimes in your art you will make mistakes and days, weeks, or even months later you will notice those mistakes.
I think they were pointing out that when you do notice those mistakes you need to fix them or take them to another place.
witch I think is very important

Ellingsworth
July 19th, 2007, 07:46 AM
I wonder when websites will realize that they shouldn't put FREAKING white text on top of a black background. Or maybe it's just me.

Good read, but I agree with the above comments, art is always full of mistake, nothing can always be perfect, but that is what we strive to get to, that perfect level, or at least close to it. The more we recognize the mistakes we make and try to correct them the better we will get. Just my opinion.

Jason Rainville
July 19th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Since we set our own objectives with art, we only make mistakes when we do something that hinders our progress toward our goals. A stretched arm that appears to be a mistake to someone may suit the needs of someone else. What I think defines good artists from bad ones is that good artists change/fix their mistakes to suit their goals, and not vice versa.

drummingpariah
July 19th, 2007, 09:34 AM
Since we set our own objectives with art, we only make mistakes when we do something that hinders our progress toward our goals. A stretched arm that appears to be a mistake to someone may suit the needs of someone else. What I think defines good artists from bad ones is that good artists change/fix their mistakes to suit their goals, and not vice versa.

Oooh, that's a good way to word it. I like, very much.

Ilaekae
July 19th, 2007, 11:39 AM
Since when are accidents and "mistakes" universally a bad thing?

killer_gym_sox
July 19th, 2007, 05:58 PM
I think you both agree with that article and mis-understood it in seperate places
I don't think that they were talking about purposely making mistakes
sometimes in your art you will make mistakes and days, weeks, or even months later you will notice those mistakes.
I think they were pointing out that when you do notice those mistakes you need to fix them or take them to another place.
witch I think is very important

I didnt have time quite to read the article. I saw what you asked and figured that you had summarized what was in the article. I take it i missed some info then.

Elwell
July 19th, 2007, 06:02 PM
I didnt have time quite to read the article. I saw what you asked and figured that you had summarized what was in the article. I take it i missed some info then.
What would the internet be without people giving opinions on things they haven't actually read/seen/heard etc?

Hyskoa
July 19th, 2007, 06:09 PM
Yes, 99,9% from contemporary art is a mistake.
Mistakes that pay well though.

Xazy
July 19th, 2007, 06:32 PM
My 8th grade English teacher believed in "happy accidents" - sometimes it's not what you were trying to do, but it looks fine anyway.

steve kim
July 19th, 2007, 10:02 PM
I didnt have time quite to read the article. I saw what you asked and figured that you had summarized what was in the article. I take it i missed some info then.

speaking of mistakes...

steve kim
July 19th, 2007, 10:03 PM
Yes, 99,9% from contemporary art is a mistake.
Mistakes that pay well though.

lol more mistakes!

this thread is doing well to show what mistakes look like. you can't solve a problem without being able to diagnose it first!

FLenG
July 19th, 2007, 10:24 PM
i Define 2 mistakes -

Need to redo mistake

and

Happy Mistake. Keep it.

killer_gym_sox
July 19th, 2007, 11:22 PM
speaking of mistakes...

someone already beat you to that...

Kat12
July 21st, 2007, 09:49 AM
i Define 2 mistakes -

Need to redo mistake

and

Happy Mistake. Keep it.

Thats so funny
That is pretty much what the article said.

Goog
July 21st, 2007, 10:04 AM
To quote my hero Bob Ross : "If you've painted before you know that we don't make mistakes -- we have happy accidents."

Dile_
July 21st, 2007, 06:28 PM
To quote my hero Bob Ross : "If you've painted before you know that we don't make mistakes -- we have happy accidents."

That doesn't make sense... To me... :/

kingshaj
July 21st, 2007, 09:35 PM
Since when are accidents and "mistakes" universally a bad thing?

in comercial art?: when your art director says so...lol

but good ol' bob ross is absolutely right in the context fine art. Happy accidents do happen with every stroke!...when the aspects out of your control conspire to further your goals more effectively than your skill currently can. Being blind to them is to miss out on adding them to your arsenal .

Goog
July 21st, 2007, 09:37 PM
Ah, you must understand Bob Ross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNwIzXxsg1Y&mode=related&search=) to understand his comments.

sgtplunder
July 22nd, 2007, 07:36 AM
The way I see it (as a new person looking in), if you call your art "realistic" then yes, it opens up to having aspects of it being called mistakes.

If it is not labelled releastic, I believe you have free reign to do what you want and when you want, I won't be calling anything mistakes...

Then again, I would not know an artistic mistake if it came up and painted me purple with orange polka-dots.