View Full Version : One Foggy Morning in 2020:)update 4th July
SeanAni
July 2nd, 2007, 11:40 PM
Hello,friends here:)
This is one of my recent works.
It is my first environment piece that I called it "one foggy morning in 2020".
Your C&C are welcome:)and hope that dear friends here can help me to point out what I should countinue to practise and what shortcomings I should overcome during creating environment pieces:)
Thanks
Troll Skelking
July 3rd, 2007, 09:57 AM
I suggest to define the edges in the foreground thoroughly and add some more details and dolours, then create a smooth transition to the foggy middle- and background
Cookiedough
July 3rd, 2007, 11:13 AM
Agreed with Troll Skelking. You seem a little scared of hardedged brushes. There's not enough information for the viewer to understand what he/she's looking at.
Why is that pillar important? Why is that stopsign there? Is that giant building in the bg supposed to be threatening or comforting? There's shop written on the left, but i keep seeing a giant wall instead of stores. There's a bike in the shop or outside? There's too much information lacking.
This could be a kickass piece, but you have to go back and redefine a bunch of stuff. For now, i keep seeing a futuristic town that imprisons it's inhabitants, while you might've been painting a romantic shoppingspree.
SeanAni
July 4th, 2007, 03:48 AM
Many thanks,Troll Skelking and Cookiedough:)
Your advices are so valuable to me!
Following your suggestions,I have made a lot of adjustments and I have posted them.
Hope you will continue to help me with this work.
Thank you very much indeed:)
Cookiedough
July 5th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Hi there,
The updates show better that there's a building there. The lensflare in the first version isn't a plus though. There are too many light areas and not enough solid ones. Still too many blurry brushes going on imo.
I'm not sure if the second version is better. It's darker, but the forms are still too vague and those lensflares aren't helping. The pillar looks like a firehydrant now.
I guess i'm unsure now with what your goal is with this picture. Are you aiming for a picture in motion? There's now too much blurryness and not enough focus.
What are those people doing there? Why is that pillar important? Might it have an important announcement? Are those spaceships in the bg? Why is the street so clean, where's the dogpoo and the garbage? Where are the ads to promote all the stores and the giant billboards? What do you want to tell with this picture? There's not enough information there for me to understand. Don't be afraid to use harder brushes to clear areas up.
Sinaz
July 5th, 2007, 07:19 PM
A word on lens flares...
If your eyes don't see it naturally, and this isn't a painting of a photograph, spare us the photoshop filters.
It's too crisp, obvious, and distracting from your work behind it (which is otherwise improving).
It also belies the intent of your painting... is it supposed to be foggy or gimmicky?
One thing you may try -- to help the "foggy" look, is to paint the distant buildings with cripser silhouettes, but lose them in the atmospheric perspective near the ground... wash out detail and saturation.
Look:
http://www.bigfoto.com/america/san-francisco/fog-san_francisco.JPG
At the moment, your fog looks more like vaseline on lens + depth of field.
Ground level looks pretty foggy, it's just the sky-rises that throw off the wrong visual cues.
SeanAni
July 6th, 2007, 02:05 AM
Many many thanks! Cookiedough and Sinaz.
Cookie,thanks.I'm quite encouraged by your words.Thank you for your continous help and attention and I think I should pay more attention to the rationality of the objects in my work and usage of the brushes.:)Thanks
Sinaz,thank you for your help and reference pic.Your words make me have a new knowledge of lens flares and foggy view.
I'll go on practising and working hard following your valuable suggestions.
Thank you all:)
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