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Bubs
June 25th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Sorry for the retarded title, but I couldn't think of anything better to put there. First things first, a little backstory for you guys:

I started to pick up the way of the pencil almost two years ago out of sheer boredum during one fateful night while evacuating from a hurricaine. They were nothing more than horrible scribbles, but I liked it and decided to keep trucking till I figure out just what I wanted to do with my life (I was halfway through my junior year at the time you see). Since then, i've decided to take art seriously AS my profession in life, so as to how long i've been seriously drawing would be a little over a year ago.

Sometime during my senior year a friend and I got the bright idea to attend Full Sail after school let out. He is a very dedicated worker (currently working 40-hour weeks interning at UT for $14 an hour), so I trusted his opinion and rolled with it. So for the longest time, our college plans were set; we knew that the school was going to be expensive, but we were willing to save up and attend no matter what. I guess the selling factor of that school was the fact that it only focused on your major (digital art degree for him, the animation one for me), and they treated it like a job of sorts so you'd be prepared for what's in store for in the real world.

Little problem though. We found out the week after graduation that Full Sail was actually a crock of shit to begin with. It's not like we didn't do the research on the school before, it's just that somehow after we graduate high school, everybody and their mom seems to be slamming the school, stating everything from the school only interested in taking your money to the staggering fact that most of the teachers there are arrogant pricks (most of which are prior students themselves who couldn't make it in the real world). Turns out that Full Sail attracts a buttload of spoiled rich kids who are only interested in attending so they can mix a phat beat or buy their way into becoming a high-profile record producer/movie director/etc.

So against the security that we'd actually be attending a college this fall, we decided to go against attending Full Sail. Don't get me wrong here; you can still learn alot there, but in order to do it you have to be the one to really go out there and teach yourself these things, and I for one do not need to be shelling out sixty-five grand to do it. So as of yet, I have no idea just what the hell that i'm gonna do with my life regarding college.

However, one thing I don't intend to do is puss out of this art thing just because i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I've worked too hard to get to where I am today (despite how low my skills are), and something's telling me that this is the period in my life that'll really show whether i'm cut out for this whole art and animation deal.

If it's all right with you guys, i've decided to keep an online journal regarding my art on this forum. The goal of this is to record just what i've done each day, whether it's reading up on art books, practice drills, classes i've been taking during this sabbatical period, you name it. Long story short, i'm trying to construct a custom-fit Bruce Lee work ethic that will (hopefully) help me improve at a slightly faster rate. I know that it takes years to build one's crafts, and you can't really blitz through things like this, but the idea here is that if I can figure out what works for me and filter out what doesn't, i'd be able to improve much more efficiently.

Anyways, one of the first steps I took to improving is to start reading all of these books that i've accumilated. I got quite a bit of graduation money, and decided to spend some of it on some of these books. Overall, these are books that I either purchased, got as a gift, or worked for.

Here's the current list of titles that I have:
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Dynamic Figure Drawing by Burne Hogarth
Dynamic Anatomy by Burne Hogarth
Drawing Dynamic Hands by Burne Hogarth
Drawing the Human Head by Burne Hogarth
Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery by Burne Hogarth
Drawing People: How to portray the clothed figure by Barbara Bradley
The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expressions by Gary Faigin
Drawing Realistic Textures in Pencil by J.D. Hillberry
Fast Sketching Techniques by David Rankin
The Anatomy Coloring Book from by Wynn Kapit/Lawrence M. Elson
Human Anatomy For Artists by Dr. Gyorgy Feher
Anatomy Drawing School by Dr. Gyorgy Feher
The Watson Drawing Book by Ernest W. Watson/Aldren A. Watson
Mastering the Art of Drawing by Ian Sidaway and Sarah Hoggett
Anatomy for the Artist by Sarah Simblet(GREAT source for anatomy photo references)
How to Draw What You See by Rudy De Reyna
Exploring Life Drawing by Harold B. Stone
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards
50 Fantasy Vehicles to Draw and Paint by Keith Thompson (this is more of a fun read than something to take seriously, but it does help)

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*Whew!* That was a lot more to type than I thought. Just for the record, these aren't all the books that I have, just the ones that I think are important.

I started reading some of these books starting at the tail end of May, and sadly this is as far as i've gotten:

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Fast Sketching Techniques - p.38

Drawing Realistic Textures in Pencil - p.14

The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expressions - p.17

Drawing People: How to portray the clothed figure - p.58

Dynamic Anatomy: Revised and Expanded - p.21

Drawing Dynamic Hands - p.33

Drawing the Human Head - p.61

Dynamic Figure Drawing - p.39

Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery - p.51

Exploring Life Drawing - p.5(forgot I had this one)

50 Fantasy Vehicles to Draw and Paint - p.25

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I know for a fact that there's no way in hell that i'm gonna figure all this stuff out on a single read-through. Right now i'm just trying to absorb whatever I can the first time through any of these books, so that I know where to reference or which book to re-read when I start crunching down on a certain aspect of figure/life/whatever drawing. As you can see, I tend to skim around a lot regarding my reading, and personally that's how I like it; keeps me interested in reading all of these books, and that's the most important thing to me right now.

Reading about art is one thing, but actually DOING the art is just as important, if not more, so i've decided to take a Bruce Lee work ethic to all of the elements of art/anatomy that i've always shyed away from and just beat the hell out of them. Since i'm just starting this, i'm gonna have to determine what is my biggest weakness, but so far i'm confident that it's hands, feet, and heads (facial expressions, correct proportion placement of the features, the features themselves, etc). I mean, i've gotta get to this stuff sooner or later, and i'd rather start hitting it hard now to beat the ugly out of my art and get a better foundation on the material.

I also thought i'd do something a bit unorthodox as well. A friend of mine told me that while drawing the human figure is a good way to grasp anatomy, a great way to do it is to get an understanding as to HOW and WHY the muscles/body look and function the way that they do. So i've decided to try two things; First off, i'd like to take a few introductory classes at a massage institute, or at least study under someone who was (and still is) a professional masseus-turned-artist. Secondly (and this one is really out there), i'd like to start getting into better shape, get more involved into more outdoor activites. The idea behind this is that if I can experience what is feasible through human limitations, then i'll be able to transfer that through my drawings, and have a much better grasp of anatomy.

I'm not gonna lie to you guys; I think this might be the hardest shit i've ever put myself through yet. However, there's a strong difference between forcing yourself through this and coming to it willingly, and the latter is much more prevailent than the former.

So i'm gonna take a chance with this. I'll be recording my results every few days just to see if it's actually gonna make a difference. Sometimes i'll only be posting an update on my reading process, other days it might be a handful of doodles, but the goal here is to get something done artistically. It's time for me to get crackin' on these basics.

Anyways, since this is an art thread, it needs art, and though I don't really have anything new to post, I can post something to fill the void. That, and it would help document where i'm currently at.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/ToniMs-1.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/DoubleHelix.jpg

I don't expect you to know just what the hell is going on in that second one. Also, that first one was just me screwing around, but they're both fair game to critique.

If you actually sat through and read all of that, I tip my hat to you. Take care everyone.

RandAlThor
June 25th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Welcome to CA dude. You've made a lot of promises in the text above. i hope you live up to them.... impressive list of books too, but as you say reading is not enough.. update daily and post everything ;-)

Bubs
June 28th, 2007, 09:03 PM
Small reading update:

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Fast Sketching Techniques - p.38

Drawing Realistic Textures in Pencil - p.14

The Artist's Complete Guide to Facial Expressions - p.17

Drawing People: How to portray the clothed figure - p.58[/i]

Dynamic Anatomy: Revised and Expanded - p.21

Drawing Dynamic Hands - p.33

Drawing the Human Head - p.61

[b]Dynamic Figure Drawing - p.48

Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery - p.61

Exploring Life Drawing - p.5(forgot I had this one)

50 Fantasy Vehicles to Draw and Paint - p.25

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Now for a status report:

Talked to a personal trainer regarding my little endeavor, and he was pretty intrigued. Unfortunately, his rates are pretty steep; $188 a month for four sessions a month, $360 for eight sessions (2x a week), and $546 for twelve sessions (3x a week). There's a fifty dollar initial sign-up fee, and a three month minimum the customer has to sign up for (ouch). That adds up in a hurry guys, and seeing as how I still haven't started my new job yet, i'll have to A) put it on hold momentarily or B) scout around the area for cheaper deals.

On the bright side of things, a friend of mine who is a personal masseus gave me the website address of a woman who is an artist and is in the same profession as he. I gave her a call today, and it turns out that the program she teaches is built around Betty "Ironsides" Edwards' Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (!). Not only that, but it's only thirty smackers for an hour and a half of lesson time (I don't follow her every step of the way with this book; she treats it more like a checkpoint system, where I read to such-and-such part and do all the projects until i've hit the stopping point, at which she reviews over the work, points out the flaws, and lines out more projects for me). What's even better however, is that taking some lesson under her could help me buff up my slim portfolio, something that I desperately need to do.

So yeah, very excited about taking advantage of this.

On another note, I was thinking of including this old graphite stick piece that I drew in my college Drawing 1 class (took it during my senior year for fun) as a portfolio piece. Hopefully it's not too large:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/George.jpg

Can anyone tell me if this would be sufficient enough to include or not? (Sorry for the bad picture)

Bubs
August 16th, 2007, 01:40 PM
Whoa man, it seems that I completely forgot about this thread :\ . So much for the "Bruce Lee effect"...

Anyways, if it's any consultation I got my new job right before that period, and it turns out it was leaving me physically, emotionally, and artistically drained. I quit that job last week, and now I seem to be back and rarin' to go! Also, I have been practicing during that time period, but just not as muchas I wanted to.

Anyways, here's a quick foot study:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/Feet.jpg

I left one unshaded just to see the difference.

Here's something i've been working on in between life studies:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/Kazastancehardedge.jpg

I hope I can keep up with all of you talented people. You guys have certainly raised the bar :}

Darktwin
August 16th, 2007, 04:25 PM
I read your your situation above and I hope you stay with this. Noticing from this recent post, today and your last post on the 28th of June you haven't been staying up with the Bruce Lee plan. You have to stay with it man, you've only done a few drawings since June 28th?? You have to draw more than this if you want to see improvement. Drawing has to become second nature, its not going to happen over night. You should set small goals and increase your goal threshold as you begin to consistently meet your small goals.

Example of small goals might be:

Draw for 2 plus hours a day, 2 hours of drawing in a day is not much time at all, seriously, and build from that. Remember its about the time put into your work, not the amount of work as your trying to increase your skills as an artist.

Crit:
with the last drawing you posted, its a tough pose, so points for challenging yourself. You have to complete the hands and the feet, its the only way your going to understand them if you do them. I believe the arms are a bit to long, keep, doing anatomy studies, you should be drawing from the books you've purchased to understand the elements of the human body, structure, proportion, anatomy, scale, perspective. Its a never ending learning cycle, so don't ever think your done learning something. You might get to a point were you feel comfortable, but no one is ever good enough to say their education is complete.

Good luck :), and I'll be looking for a new update shortly.

Bubs
August 16th, 2007, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the support man, it really means a lot to me. I think the two hour minumum per day is a very good goal to start out with.

On a side note, I think my problem is that I'm a bit OCD, and get stuck in routines. If something in my life changes, and I drop a habit, it is very hard for me to get back into it, even if I really want to. I've always had a single-tracked mindset, so when something else comes along, it tends to dictate most of my attention, and i'll sometimes lose interest in another interest entirely. This almost happened with the whole art deal (which is actually quite horrifying now that I think of it). There really was a time prior to getting that job where I would spend hours upon hours with contour line practice, reading, anatomy studies, you name it, but it all went downhill the minute my job started up.

I really don't like being like this, so i'm gonna try my hardest to do everything that I can to overcome it. I'll be going to visit my cousin at the races Friday night through all of Saturday, so i'll try to post completed work for Friday, but Saturday's will have to wait.

And reading! Gotta get back on that reading! Methinks i'll be doing a lot of that, especially this Saturday!

Yeah, time to get to work! :^^:

Bubs
August 17th, 2007, 01:04 AM
Shazam! My two hour study for the night!

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/half-and-half.jpg

All right, time for the reading part!

Bubs
August 17th, 2007, 05:17 PM
Baaaaaaaaaaaaad pelvic/upper leg study I did today:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h51/better_sandwich/legstudymale.jpg

I'm so embarassed by it that I think i'll try doing another study to make up for this. I don't think i'll be able to scan it by today though, seeing as how i'll be helping out my cousin at the races for tonight and all day saturday.