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locust69
June 24th, 2007, 06:04 PM
I have been working this thing over and over and i still get a sense that there is something wrong (with the anatomy), but i cant put my finger on it. Anyone know what im doing wrong?:dead:

(girl is listening to music)


http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headphones2bb8.jpg

edit: pic is for a album cover (concept sketch ) http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headphonesfc8.jpg

PixelFarmer
June 24th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Are you using reference? if so can you post that too?
I know what you mean by that "feeling."
right now, it looks like all you have is an outline and there is no shading or anatomy to the facial features at all. This could be what's throwing you off.

You have a good start going, just step away from it for a while and come back to it. also turn it upside down and hold it up to a mirror if it's traditional media, this helps a great deal when checking proportions.

Also check out this thread, it's helped me alot!
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14119

Elwell
June 24th, 2007, 06:45 PM
I attached the pic for you. We frown on links.

ashton
June 25th, 2007, 07:25 AM
The ears are too high on the head.

The nose is too low on the face.

The mouth is too small.

Your reference material should be more useful than
what you have choosen. I use models who have been
lit casting distinct shadows, which help to define shapes.

DSL
June 27th, 2007, 03:05 AM
Without the reference pic it is really impossible to say a lot of helpful stuff, but without seeing that I would think that the lower part of the face (lips and chin/jaw) is on a smaller scale than the upper part. Your basic modelling of the nose and eyes is quite good (considering its just a start of a sketch.)
Drawing young pretty girls (or is this a young guy?) is really starting at the deep end, but everyone likes these subjects when they are learning.
Start with chunky rough looking and older subjects and you wont feel the pressure to "make a pretty picture".
Get a skull from school or uni and draw that from lots of angles (including top down) and draw yourself in the mirror once a day.
Get to know the structure and form of each part of the face- each has its own unique qualitys and form eg the eyes are like billiard balls stuck in the sockets and the eye lids are rubbery skin stretched around the balls.
Look for some of the classic older figure drawing teaching books like Walt Fosters books, or Loomis "Figure Drawing for all its worth".
Portraiture is actually harder than drawing the nude body, it requires a lot more subtle accuracy, understanding and control.
You are going well , keep at it! Draw everyday.

locust69
June 27th, 2007, 05:45 PM
thanks for the advice, i think if its so hard for me to spot the things you guys seem to see right away i need to do more tutorials on the basics before i attempt this again.

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Jason Rainville
June 27th, 2007, 05:52 PM
thanks for the advice, i think if its so hard for me to spot the things you guys seem to see right away i need to practice drawing faces from life/reference more before i attempt this again.

:traced:

Fixed :)

Leftyy
June 28th, 2007, 11:00 AM
Can you post the reference? Is there one?

Jewl
July 2nd, 2007, 06:19 PM
http://fineart.sk/index.php?s=32&cat=14

It's an free online index of a bunch of Loomis books....

DSL
July 10th, 2007, 01:38 AM
yeah, doing tutorials is the way, and drawing everyday and drawing everything that takes your fancy.
Drawing and painting are such high and subtle arts that we ALL are forever students. The best way to learn is to do lots of drawing and painting and by doing that discover the questions that you need answered. Search for the answers, ask for the answers, beg for the answers and always say thanks for the answers- most pros like to help an enthusiastic and humble person who appreciates the hard won gems that are being passed over.

Dont stop trying with faces of anykind- I didnt want to put you off drawing pretty faces, just that if you draw 'uglier' faces (which are often more beautiful to an artists eye) you tend to relax more and not worry about 'spoiling' it with lots of construction lines.
Last thing- absolutely you must get the Loomis books AND Drawing Lessons from the great Masters by RB Hale. Priceless stuff. What these two say is just as profound as the drawings.;)